On the latest NFL Players: Second Acts podcast, former Super Bowl champ and tight end Benjamin Watson joins Peanut and Roman. Benjamin talks about what it was like to play with two of the greatest quarterbacks of all time—Tom Brady and Drew Brees—and how their leadership styles differ. Then, Benjamin explains how he developed his own reputation as a leader in the locker room, how he manages his busy schedule, and learning to give himself grace. He also talks about why he played until he was 39, what it’s like to work for the SEC network, and studying public policy at American University.

The NFL Players: Second Acts podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Radio.