In this special episode of Move the Sticks, Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks are on the ground in Oxnard, California for Cowboys training camp. With the Cowboys hosting a joint practice with the Los Angeles Rams, the guys break down what they saw from both squads and dive into key takeaways.

They’re also joined by Cowboys VP of Player Personnel Will McClay, who gives insight into Dallas’ roster-building philosophy and the dominant receiving duo between CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens. Later, veteran safety Malik Hooker stops by to discuss the Cowboys’ defense, and how this group is preparing for the season.

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