In this episode of Next Steps 4 Seniors: Conversations on Aging, host Wendy Jones and estate planning attorney Mallory Kallabat discuss probate, estate planning, and strategies to avoid probate. They explain what probate is, its drawbacks, and the importance of early planning. The conversation covers the differences between wills and trusts, the necessity of properly funding trusts, and essential documents like powers of attorney. Mallory shares practical tips for choosing fiduciaries and using beneficiary designations. The episode emphasizes the value of pre-planning to protect loved ones and offers guidance for listeners seeking personalized estate planning advice.