On this episode of Newts World, we're going to have a chance to chat with I think one of the rising stars in the entire country and somebody who you're going to hear a lot more from over the next few years. I first noticed her when she was a freshman in Congress, and every time I've watched her career, I've just been really impressed with how smart, how hard working, how eager to learn. I think how courageous she's been. And that is Governor Christinom of South Dakota. Her handling of the COVID nineteen pandemic made her widely known. But the truth is she's been in politics for a good while. She's smart, she's savvy, and I think you're going to find that you both like her and that you look forward to following her as she leads on a variety of things. She combines multiple roles. She's a wife, a mother, lifelong rancher, farmer, and small business owner. In twenty ten, after serving in the South Dakota Legislature for several years, she was elected to serve as South Dakota's lone member of the US House. During her time in Congress, in addition to many other successes. Governor nom helped pass the Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which put twenty four hundred dollars back in the pockets of the average South Dakota family. In twenty eighteen, she had a platform of protecting South Dakotas against tax increases, at government growth, federal intrusion, and government secrecy, and on that platform, she was elected as South Dakota's first ever female governor. In addition to her amazing political achievements, she often says that her greatest accomplishment is raising her three children along with her husband, Brian. So I'm pleased to welcome my guest Governor Christinell.

On this episode of Newts World, we're going to have a chance to chat with I think one of the rising stars in the entire country and somebody who you're going to hear a lot more from over the next few years. I first noticed her when she was a freshman in Congress, and every time I've watched her career, I've just been really impressed with how smart, how hard working, how eager to learn. I think how courageous she's been. And that is Governor Christinom of South Dakota. Her handling of the COVID nineteen pandemic made her widely known. But the truth is she's been in politics for a good while. She's smart, she's savvy, and I think you're going to find that you both like her and that you look forward to following her as she leads on a variety of things. She combines multiple roles. She's a wife, a mother, lifelong rancher, farmer, and small business owner. In twenty ten, after serving in the South Dakota Legislature for several years, she was elected to serve as South Dakota's lone member of the US House. During her time in Congress, in addition to many other successes. Governor nom helped pass the Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which put twenty four hundred dollars back in the pockets of the average South Dakota family. In twenty eighteen, she had a platform of protecting South Dakotas against tax increases, at government growth, federal intrusion, and government secrecy, and on that platform, she was elected as South Dakota's first ever female governor. In addition to her amazing political achievements, she often says that her greatest accomplishment is raising her three children along with her husband, Brian. So I'm pleased to welcome my guest Governor Christinell.

Thank you Newt. I appreciate you having me with you today, and we'll enjoy talking about this country and what's special about it and a little bit of what I think we need to do in America to make sure that it is protected for our kids and your grandkids.

Thank you Newt. I appreciate you having me with you today, and we'll enjoy talking about this country and what's special about it and a little bit of what I think we need to do in America to make sure that it is protected for our kids and your grandkids.

We know I mentioned earlier that Lisa and I saw you down at mar Largo. We listened to your talk and we thought, you know, it was really very, very impressive. And then recently you and doctor Ben Carson co authored I think a very profound and important column which We're going to post on our show page so people can read it and see just how deeply committed you are to America and to the American system. But before we get into politics and government, if you don't mind, tell me a little bit. You grew up on a ranchharp that you grew up on a farm as an Easterner, I will confess I'm not sure the difference.

We know I mentioned earlier that Lisa and I saw you down at mar Largo. We listened to your talk and we thought, you know, it was really very, very impressive. And then recently you and doctor Ben Carson co authored I think a very profound and important column which We're going to post on our show page so people can read it and see just how deeply committed you are to America and to the American system. But before we get into politics and government, if you don't mind, tell me a little bit. You grew up on a ranchharp that you grew up on a farm as an Easterner, I will confess I'm not sure the difference.

Well, I actually grew up on kind of both. I live in South Dakota and always have. Farms are where you generally grow crops, and ranches are where you raise cattle, horses, and livestock. So we did both of those growing up, and I would say no, from the time I was five or six years old, I knew that that was the lifestyle I always wanted to have. I wanted to grow up and farm and ranch with my dad. He was really my best friend. So when I got out of high school went to college, you know, that was my goal, was to come back to the operation and work alongside him and our family business that had been in our family for generations. Which changed everything was when I was going to college, my dad was killed in an accident on our farm. It was March tenth and it was one of those years that we had fluctuating temperatures. He went into a grain bend to empty it out and fell through the crust of mold on the top and corn buried him. So it was tragic for us, and for me in particular. I ended up quitting college and come back and taking over the operation, which was one of the larger farming operations in the state of South Dakota. At the time. We were farming about ten thousand acres. The day he was killed, he had rented another twenty five hundred acres. He was a go getter. We had a large cow calf operation, raised quarter horses too, and it was a lot for a twenty two year old to take over running all those different businesses and having your dad gone. He was forty nine years old at the time, and it was a little overwhelming, but we got with death taxes. Several months later, I got a bill in the mail from the IRS that said we owed death taxes. And I could not believe that the federal government had a law that when a family had a tragedy that all of a sudden we owed the federal government hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, and like most small businesses or farms and ranches at the time, we had land and machinery and cattle, but we didn't have any money in the bank, and I could not figure out how he was going to pay those taxes. So people ask how I got involved in government and politics. It was because of that I decided that we needed more normal, everyday people running businesses to show up and be involved in our policy to really make it work for them to be successful.

Well, I actually grew up on kind of both. I live in South Dakota and always have. Farms are where you generally grow crops, and ranches are where you raise cattle, horses, and livestock. So we did both of those growing up, and I would say no, from the time I was five or six years old, I knew that that was the lifestyle I always wanted to have. I wanted to grow up and farm and ranch with my dad. He was really my best friend. So when I got out of high school went to college, you know, that was my goal, was to come back to the operation and work alongside him and our family business that had been in our family for generations. Which changed everything was when I was going to college, my dad was killed in an accident on our farm. It was March tenth and it was one of those years that we had fluctuating temperatures. He went into a grain bend to empty it out and fell through the crust of mold on the top and corn buried him. So it was tragic for us, and for me in particular. I ended up quitting college and come back and taking over the operation, which was one of the larger farming operations in the state of South Dakota. At the time. We were farming about ten thousand acres. The day he was killed, he had rented another twenty five hundred acres. He was a go getter. We had a large cow calf operation, raised quarter horses too, and it was a lot for a twenty two year old to take over running all those different businesses and having your dad gone. He was forty nine years old at the time, and it was a little overwhelming, but we got with death taxes. Several months later, I got a bill in the mail from the IRS that said we owed death taxes. And I could not believe that the federal government had a law that when a family had a tragedy that all of a sudden we owed the federal government hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, and like most small businesses or farms and ranches at the time, we had land and machinery and cattle, but we didn't have any money in the bank, and I could not figure out how he was going to pay those taxes. So people ask how I got involved in government and politics. It was because of that I decided that we needed more normal, everyday people running businesses to show up and be involved in our policy to really make it work for them to be successful.

Even in your busy career now as governor, Are you still running the farm?

Even in your busy career now as governor, Are you still running the farm?

No. When I got elected to Congress, I got bought out of the operation. What happened was, several years after my dad passed away, my older brother moved home from Oklahoma, my sister moved home from Georgia. My younger brother was in high school when my dad was killed, and so he had graduated, and then we farmed and ranched as a partnership for many, many years. I was the general manager, but our four families worked there together, side by side every single day. So when I got elected to Congress, I'm the very first person in my family to ever get involved in politics. We just didn't really do that, and when I got elected it was very strange. But I also decided that if I wasn't going to be on the operation every day, that I wouldn't be involved in the business anymore. So I still have equity and land, but my brothers bought me out of the actual operating business of the farming operation because I was obviously spending my time working on policy in DC. But I still live on one of the ranches with my husband when we're not in peer with the state government, and it's still a huge part of our way of life.

No. When I got elected to Congress, I got bought out of the operation. What happened was, several years after my dad passed away, my older brother moved home from Oklahoma, my sister moved home from Georgia. My younger brother was in high school when my dad was killed, and so he had graduated, and then we farmed and ranched as a partnership for many, many years. I was the general manager, but our four families worked there together, side by side every single day. So when I got elected to Congress, I'm the very first person in my family to ever get involved in politics. We just didn't really do that, and when I got elected it was very strange. But I also decided that if I wasn't going to be on the operation every day, that I wouldn't be involved in the business anymore. So I still have equity and land, but my brothers bought me out of the actual operating business of the farming operation because I was obviously spending my time working on policy in DC. But I still live on one of the ranches with my husband when we're not in peer with the state government, and it's still a huge part of our way of life.

So do you think that your children will grow up wanting to live on a farm or a ranch.

So do you think that your children will grow up wanting to live on a farm or a ranch.

Oh, definitely. My oldest daughter is an appraiser. She owns her own company. But definitely we're still raising horses. We have buffalo because we still live on the ranch. We have some livestock. It's not very big right now, but my son in law grew up on a large cattle operation and that's where our heart is. My other two children will come back to South Dakota too. It's just a part of our way of life. And of course, my brothers, still being involved in farming, were incredibly involved with them on a day to day basis, keeping that operation going and just helping them where we can.

Oh, definitely. My oldest daughter is an appraiser. She owns her own company. But definitely we're still raising horses. We have buffalo because we still live on the ranch. We have some livestock. It's not very big right now, but my son in law grew up on a large cattle operation and that's where our heart is. My other two children will come back to South Dakota too. It's just a part of our way of life. And of course, my brothers, still being involved in farming, were incredibly involved with them on a day to day basis, keeping that operation going and just helping them where we can.

I have to ask a campus, is how many buffalo are you running?

I have to ask a campus, is how many buffalo are you running?

Oh, we only have a handful right now. In fact, I just bought them this year because I thought it'd be fun. My husband was surprised when I told him that evening that you're not going to believe what I did today. But I bought a few buffalo and I wanted to start building our buffalo herd. When I was a kid, my dad had a buffalo herd and I loved it. And so in South Dakota we have Custer State Park, which is the most beautiful state park, I believe in the country, and we have one of the original bison herds in the nation that helped bring buffalo back from extinction. And so that's where I bought those buffalo from, was from the annual auction.

Oh, we only have a handful right now. In fact, I just bought them this year because I thought it'd be fun. My husband was surprised when I told him that evening that you're not going to believe what I did today. But I bought a few buffalo and I wanted to start building our buffalo herd. When I was a kid, my dad had a buffalo herd and I loved it. And so in South Dakota we have Custer State Park, which is the most beautiful state park, I believe in the country, and we have one of the original bison herds in the nation that helped bring buffalo back from extinction. And so that's where I bought those buffalo from, was from the annual auction.

The state park has enough buffalo, but there have been a lot of movies made there at the park in order to have that sense of a real buffalo herd.

The state park has enough buffalo, but there have been a lot of movies made there at the park in order to have that sense of a real buffalo herd.

Looks like absolutely and we have a round up every fall that is the Governor's Buffalo Roundup, and we bring them into the corrals. We have about twenty thousand people that come and watch and participate in the roundup, and then we have an auction that we sell some breeding stock from and then that gives us the revenue we need to maintain the herd each year. So it's very much a Western wivelife from.

Looks like absolutely and we have a round up every fall that is the Governor's Buffalo Roundup, and we bring them into the corrals. We have about twenty thousand people that come and watch and participate in the roundup, and then we have an auction that we sell some breeding stock from and then that gives us the revenue we need to maintain the herd each year. So it's very much a Western wivelife from.

A standpoint of the rancher. Are buffalo different to run than cattle? Are?

A standpoint of the rancher. Are buffalo different to run than cattle? Are?

Incredibly Yeah, you will never take the wildness in aggressiveness out of buffalo. They are much more unpredictable. They run faster than horses, so you have to have much more secure fencing and equipment to work with them, and you definitely do not get up close and friendly with your buffalo.

Incredibly Yeah, you will never take the wildness in aggressiveness out of buffalo. They are much more unpredictable. They run faster than horses, so you have to have much more secure fencing and equipment to work with them, and you definitely do not get up close and friendly with your buffalo.

There's a wonderful short video at Yellowstone at the visitors center where they say you have to remember that these are wild animals, and they show this tourist getting tossed by the buffalo and they just say, we keep telling people don't do this.

There's a wonderful short video at Yellowstone at the visitors center where they say you have to remember that these are wild animals, and they show this tourist getting tossed by the buffalo and they just say, we keep telling people don't do this.

Yes, well, and I think people a lot of times think that they can go up and approach them because they look so peaceful, But they're extremely unpredictable animals even if they're on a ranch, and people would consider them a part of their business operation. You will never get a buffalo to be a pet of yours because they just have a natural Western wildness to them that is inbread.

Yes, well, and I think people a lot of times think that they can go up and approach them because they look so peaceful, But they're extremely unpredictable animals even if they're on a ranch, and people would consider them a part of their business operation. You will never get a buffalo to be a pet of yours because they just have a natural Western wildness to them that is inbread.

And I think in a way, if you come out of a life where you're dealing with the natural world, it teaches you some core lessons about reality that all too often city dwellers don't quite get. You just made a good point, which is you are kidding yourself if you think you're about to have a pet buffalo, and the consequence can be a disaster.

And I think in a way, if you come out of a life where you're dealing with the natural world, it teaches you some core lessons about reality that all too often city dwellers don't quite get. You just made a good point, which is you are kidding yourself if you think you're about to have a pet buffalo, and the consequence can be a disaster.

Yeah. And for me, my kids and grandkids will always have livestock. They just will because of what it teaches them. They learned to be responsible for another living being. They learned that they have chores and work to do every single day. It also teaches them to be problem solvers. Some of our best memories as kids was rounding up cattle, working them, vaccinating them, training horses, trying to get inside their head, figure out what they are thinking and how we can get them to work with us and be a partnership. It's very much a way that I think I learned how to approach problems in life and to work with individuals is because of what I learned from growing up on a ranch and working with animals and livestock and being responsible. I never got to take a day off because they always needed to be fed and cared for, and it was my responsibility.

Yeah. And for me, my kids and grandkids will always have livestock. They just will because of what it teaches them. They learned to be responsible for another living being. They learned that they have chores and work to do every single day. It also teaches them to be problem solvers. Some of our best memories as kids was rounding up cattle, working them, vaccinating them, training horses, trying to get inside their head, figure out what they are thinking and how we can get them to work with us and be a partnership. It's very much a way that I think I learned how to approach problems in life and to work with individuals is because of what I learned from growing up on a ranch and working with animals and livestock and being responsible. I never got to take a day off because they always needed to be fed and cared for, and it was my responsibility.

So have you been able to take those kind of lessons and bring them into public service.

So have you been able to take those kind of lessons and bring them into public service.

I have. Although it's interesting, I feel like I spent a lot of time talking about raising kids too, just because one of the best gifts that my parents ever gave me was giving me impossible things to do when we were kids. My dad never taught me to drive a semi. He just when I was twelve years old, got it going down the road and jumped out the door and said take it home and make your corners wide. You know, we drove ourselves to school when we were eight nine years old and it was several miles away. We had to work with cattle from the time we were young, and it was you know, you go feed them, take care of those calves, and do it and figure it out. And it wasn't an option to come back to dad and say that you failed. He gave you a job, he expected you to finish it, and you had to figure it out. And I think that is one of the best gifts that they ever gave us as children was giving us those impossible things to do, because it caused us to figure out a way to get it done, solved the problem. But then also when we did accomplish it, it gave me confidence. It taught me that I can figure things out and that I can tackle things that seem very very difficult and have the confidence to really take on even bigger challenges. So I do work a lot of that into public service, and I think I talk about it a lot, but we also implement it and show it even with working with my employees that we're not here to live in an instant gratification society. We're here to determine what decisions we can make that creates a stronger America, a stronger family, stronger people twenty thirty years from now. So I would never want to be guilty of making a decision it's beneficial for me, as much as I would want to focus on what is the consequences of this decision twenty years from now?

I have. Although it's interesting, I feel like I spent a lot of time talking about raising kids too, just because one of the best gifts that my parents ever gave me was giving me impossible things to do when we were kids. My dad never taught me to drive a semi. He just when I was twelve years old, got it going down the road and jumped out the door and said take it home and make your corners wide. You know, we drove ourselves to school when we were eight nine years old and it was several miles away. We had to work with cattle from the time we were young, and it was you know, you go feed them, take care of those calves, and do it and figure it out. And it wasn't an option to come back to dad and say that you failed. He gave you a job, he expected you to finish it, and you had to figure it out. And I think that is one of the best gifts that they ever gave us as children was giving us those impossible things to do, because it caused us to figure out a way to get it done, solved the problem. But then also when we did accomplish it, it gave me confidence. It taught me that I can figure things out and that I can tackle things that seem very very difficult and have the confidence to really take on even bigger challenges. So I do work a lot of that into public service, and I think I talk about it a lot, but we also implement it and show it even with working with my employees that we're not here to live in an instant gratification society. We're here to determine what decisions we can make that creates a stronger America, a stronger family, stronger people twenty thirty years from now. So I would never want to be guilty of making a decision it's beneficial for me, as much as I would want to focus on what is the consequences of this decision twenty years from now?

Would you take that kind of a long view that makes you different than most politicians.

Would you take that kind of a long view that makes you different than most politicians.

It does, and I think that some people that have been involved with me in my political life would say that that's probably been to my political detriment. You know, I took on some fights that probably were not going to be the popular thing at that point in time, but I thought it was important because of the consequences of it. I was very reluctant to legalize hemp in the state of South Dakota and argued against it for quite some time because I can't enforce the difference between hemp and marijuana, and I can't tell the difference out there my drug dogs, can't my law enforcement officers, And you know, we had that debate for a long period of time and people would tell me, why is she against this? But it was because of the consequences and what it did to public safety and people that are out there on the street dealing with it. So there's just different things that I've tried to look at, not just what politically works for today, but if we make this decision, how do I deal with it five, ten, fifteen years down the road, and what does it open the door to.

It does, and I think that some people that have been involved with me in my political life would say that that's probably been to my political detriment. You know, I took on some fights that probably were not going to be the popular thing at that point in time, but I thought it was important because of the consequences of it. I was very reluctant to legalize hemp in the state of South Dakota and argued against it for quite some time because I can't enforce the difference between hemp and marijuana, and I can't tell the difference out there my drug dogs, can't my law enforcement officers, And you know, we had that debate for a long period of time and people would tell me, why is she against this? But it was because of the consequences and what it did to public safety and people that are out there on the street dealing with it. So there's just different things that I've tried to look at, not just what politically works for today, but if we make this decision, how do I deal with it five, ten, fifteen years down the road, and what does it open the door to.

Now. One of the things that you've done as a huge long term consequence is you got right in the middle of the fight over the keystone Excel pipeline and the decisions of the Biden administration. Was that a big challenge or was it just so obvious to you that there was no alternative.

Now. One of the things that you've done as a huge long term consequence is you got right in the middle of the fight over the keystone Excel pipeline and the decisions of the Biden administration. Was that a big challenge or was it just so obvious to you that there was no alternative.

Well, it's a big challenge because it's a little controversial here in South Dakota. I've got nine Native American tribes that are not in favor of the pipeline. They believe that it's not the right approach for moving our natural resources, which every data point disagrees with that it is much better policy on protecting the environment. It's safer to move this oil through pipelines than it is over the roads in rail like we do today. It's much safer for our communities people to move it through the pipeline as well, and it's much more efficient and would give us the stability that we need in the energy sector, which our state is highly reliant on. But because there's some division in the state of South Dakota over it, it was a little bit risky too. And also I had watched the fights that we'd had over the build in North Dakota. If you remember that new to the Dapple pipeline that cost the state of South Dakota hundreds of millions of dollars in North Dakota with law enforcement costs and what those protests did. When I first got elected as governor, I brought forward two bills that would give us the opportunity in the state to assess the pipeline company for those costs and save our taxpayers the court costs, the law enforcement costs, and the safety costs that North Dakota had to deal with. So even just me as soon as I became governor bringing forward those two bills that saved the state of South Dakota potentially hundreds of millions of dollars by having the pipeline company pay those costs if they were to build it through this date, which you know, Trans Canada supported TC Energy supported my bills because they recognized that they had a governor that would partner with them to build a pipeline safely and make sure that any violent protests that broke out would be adequately taken care of. So I was in this fight for years even when I was in Congress, but then proactively trying to protect tax payers from any costs with building pipelines to make sure that we had some certainty in our energy sector.

Well, it's a big challenge because it's a little controversial here in South Dakota. I've got nine Native American tribes that are not in favor of the pipeline. They believe that it's not the right approach for moving our natural resources, which every data point disagrees with that it is much better policy on protecting the environment. It's safer to move this oil through pipelines than it is over the roads in rail like we do today. It's much safer for our communities people to move it through the pipeline as well, and it's much more efficient and would give us the stability that we need in the energy sector, which our state is highly reliant on. But because there's some division in the state of South Dakota over it, it was a little bit risky too. And also I had watched the fights that we'd had over the build in North Dakota. If you remember that new to the Dapple pipeline that cost the state of South Dakota hundreds of millions of dollars in North Dakota with law enforcement costs and what those protests did. When I first got elected as governor, I brought forward two bills that would give us the opportunity in the state to assess the pipeline company for those costs and save our taxpayers the court costs, the law enforcement costs, and the safety costs that North Dakota had to deal with. So even just me as soon as I became governor bringing forward those two bills that saved the state of South Dakota potentially hundreds of millions of dollars by having the pipeline company pay those costs if they were to build it through this date, which you know, Trans Canada supported TC Energy supported my bills because they recognized that they had a governor that would partner with them to build a pipeline safely and make sure that any violent protests that broke out would be adequately taken care of. So I was in this fight for years even when I was in Congress, but then proactively trying to protect tax payers from any costs with building pipelines to make sure that we had some certainty in our energy sector.

So as I understand it, This is clearly not a topic where I'm an expert. But the actual result if you don't build the pipeline and you end up shipping the oil by rail and by truck, is you actually increase the risk of spills, and you raise the price, and you actually increased total pollution.

So as I understand it, This is clearly not a topic where I'm an expert. But the actual result if you don't build the pipeline and you end up shipping the oil by rail and by truck, is you actually increase the risk of spills, and you raise the price, and you actually increased total pollution.

That is correct. Yes, there's a much greater chance of spills. There's a much greater chance of accidents. Any of these rail lines and roads go through small towns, and we've had incidences in the past where they've had accidents that have been extremely dangerous for the people that live there. And it costs much more, obviously, and it's a wear and tear on our roads and bridges. So to put it through the pipeline not only protected costs and made us more efficient, it also protected our environment and it protected the people that live here. What President Biden did on day one by canceling those permits was the wrong decision on every level, the wrong decision on policy, energy, environment, and safety.

That is correct. Yes, there's a much greater chance of spills. There's a much greater chance of accidents. Any of these rail lines and roads go through small towns, and we've had incidences in the past where they've had accidents that have been extremely dangerous for the people that live there. And it costs much more, obviously, and it's a wear and tear on our roads and bridges. So to put it through the pipeline not only protected costs and made us more efficient, it also protected our environment and it protected the people that live here. What President Biden did on day one by canceling those permits was the wrong decision on every level, the wrong decision on policy, energy, environment, and safety.

I'm curious, what do you think motivates people to be in favor of a policy. I mean, I've always thought that some of the people who opposed the pipeline actually had interest to trucks in railroads.

I'm curious, what do you think motivates people to be in favor of a policy. I mean, I've always thought that some of the people who opposed the pipeline actually had interest to trucks in railroads.

That's possible, though they haven't been the vocal opponents for us. It's our Native American tribes and they have opposed it based on Mother Earth and protecting their land and water. But all of the research and data and facts around it show that it obviously would be safer to have it in the pipeline than it would especially with the new technologies that come out now with these pipelines and the way that they're built. They're just incredibly advanced in how they put in protection systems to stop skills almost immediately. But beyond that, those that are opposed, I think are those that honestly are just opposed to the oil and gas industry. They would be those on the left that say they're for items and policies like the Green New Deal, and that's just not workable for the average everyday family, especially in a state like South Dakota, where it is incredibly cold in the winter, it is incredibly hot in the summer, and it is a long ways to drive anywhere, so we are heavily energy dependent, and the reality for most people here in South Dakota is that they need pipelines like this to make their way of life, something that they can enjoy and keep more dollars in their pockets.

That's possible, though they haven't been the vocal opponents for us. It's our Native American tribes and they have opposed it based on Mother Earth and protecting their land and water. But all of the research and data and facts around it show that it obviously would be safer to have it in the pipeline than it would especially with the new technologies that come out now with these pipelines and the way that they're built. They're just incredibly advanced in how they put in protection systems to stop skills almost immediately. But beyond that, those that are opposed, I think are those that honestly are just opposed to the oil and gas industry. They would be those on the left that say they're for items and policies like the Green New Deal, and that's just not workable for the average everyday family, especially in a state like South Dakota, where it is incredibly cold in the winter, it is incredibly hot in the summer, and it is a long ways to drive anywhere, so we are heavily energy dependent, and the reality for most people here in South Dakota is that they need pipelines like this to make their way of life, something that they can enjoy and keep more dollars in their pockets.

Are you being to see gasoline prices go up?

Are you being to see gasoline prices go up?

Yes, our gasoline prices since President Biden's been in office had gone up about thirty percent.

Yes, our gasoline prices since President Biden's been in office had gone up about thirty percent.

I just try to call him that this is sort of the hidden Biden tax. When he tells you it's only going to hit people about four hundred thousand dollars, you ought to go to your local gas station and watch who's filling up their car, and in fact, his policies are leading them to pay the hidden tax of inflation.

I just try to call him that this is sort of the hidden Biden tax. When he tells you it's only going to hit people about four hundred thousand dollars, you ought to go to your local gas station and watch who's filling up their car, and in fact, his policies are leading them to pay the hidden tax of inflation.

Well and for us too, newt We've got some big populated areas of South Dakota, but much of our state it's thirty miles to go to the grocery store. People drive forty miles to go to work every day. So you know, until there's a real option for those individuals, it is just direct money that they have to spend just to take care of their families. And those are the people that aren't making a lot of money anyways, and it's literally going to be a decision between whether to fill their gas tank up or to be able to go out to eat once a week. Or buy their kids those new shoes that they need to play basketball. That's the decisions that are happening, and it's directly hurting those middle class families, lower income families that are going to struggle in that kind of an environment.

Well and for us too, newt We've got some big populated areas of South Dakota, but much of our state it's thirty miles to go to the grocery store. People drive forty miles to go to work every day. So you know, until there's a real option for those individuals, it is just direct money that they have to spend just to take care of their families. And those are the people that aren't making a lot of money anyways, and it's literally going to be a decision between whether to fill their gas tank up or to be able to go out to eat once a week. Or buy their kids those new shoes that they need to play basketball. That's the decisions that are happening, and it's directly hurting those middle class families, lower income families that are going to struggle in that kind of an environment.

And when I was a child, my dad was a stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas, and coming out of the heavily populated East, the idea that somebody might go fifty miles for a Friday night dinner. Yah, it took a little bit of adjusting.

And when I was a child, my dad was a stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas, and coming out of the heavily populated East, the idea that somebody might go fifty miles for a Friday night dinner. Yah, it took a little bit of adjusting.

Then that's right, well, and we need to remember that there's value to having us here. We grow your food. We are the backbone of this country that gets up every day and make sure that people have a beautiful place to come visit. But also that they were putting food on your table and building the manufacturing products that show up on your store shelves. And that's what we need in order for our country to be stable and to have a stable economy is to have every single part of it be producing and thriving. I tell folks all the time that when you put all your eggs in one basket in a couple of parts of the country is when you get instability. And through the two thousand and eight housing crisis and some of the recessions that we've seen, it's been Middle America. It's been the Midwest that has stabilized the national economy when so many of the other areas were struggling. And it was because of our conservative government and decision making that kept our economy going better than it did in so many of those other blue states.

Then that's right, well, and we need to remember that there's value to having us here. We grow your food. We are the backbone of this country that gets up every day and make sure that people have a beautiful place to come visit. But also that they were putting food on your table and building the manufacturing products that show up on your store shelves. And that's what we need in order for our country to be stable and to have a stable economy is to have every single part of it be producing and thriving. I tell folks all the time that when you put all your eggs in one basket in a couple of parts of the country is when you get instability. And through the two thousand and eight housing crisis and some of the recessions that we've seen, it's been Middle America. It's been the Midwest that has stabilized the national economy when so many of the other areas were struggling. And it was because of our conservative government and decision making that kept our economy going better than it did in so many of those other blue states.

You know, one of the most interesting side stories that has developed out of the Biden administration, where you were right in the middle of it, and I think it really drew tension to you, was this decision by the National Park Service to block you from holding a July fourth fireworks celebration at Mount Rushmore. Do you have any idea what they're thinking is other than they're just nuts.

You know, one of the most interesting side stories that has developed out of the Biden administration, where you were right in the middle of it, and I think it really drew tension to you, was this decision by the National Park Service to block you from holding a July fourth fireworks celebration at Mount Rushmore. Do you have any idea what they're thinking is other than they're just nuts.

Well, I think they specifically blocked us from holding that celebration to be punitive and to be political. We for years hosted fireworks at Mount Rushmore on July third, the night before July fourth, so that when everybody woke up on Independence Day on all their TV screens, on all of their media outlets, they could see us celebrating our founding fathers on that monument in South Dakota and being proud of being American. We did that for many years, but we lost those fireworks when President Obama came into office. He took away our ability to host them. So one of the things that I asked President Trump even before I was sworn in as governor, was to help me get back our fireworks celebration. It was our opportunity to showcase South Dakota, showcase Mount Rushmore, and to really be patriots and celebrate independence. President Trump became extremely dedicated to helping do that and we did, and I think most everybody in the country had an opportunity to see part of that celebration last year. When we had agreed to do that celebration, we had signed memorandums of agreement to continue hosting that celebration every single year. We went through the environmental permitting processes, We had agreements with Forest Service, National Park Service, Wildland Fire on a go no go checklist to deal with potential fire hazards. We had local leaders sign on for facilitating getting in and out, and had gone through every single logistical negotiation and gotten that done so these celebrations could continue to happen. But when President Biden came into office and denied us our permits that we were to be allocated according to that agreement. There was no reason given, And I guess that's my biggest problem is that if he would have cited environmental concerns, if he would have cited fire dangers, you know, even public health issues, which last year we hosted it during the pandemic and did not have an event that spread the virus. We allowed people to come and to be a part of it. So that was the thing that is challenging for me is that President Biden took it away with no reason other than, we believe, just to be political and to not celebrate America.

Well, I think they specifically blocked us from holding that celebration to be punitive and to be political. We for years hosted fireworks at Mount Rushmore on July third, the night before July fourth, so that when everybody woke up on Independence Day on all their TV screens, on all of their media outlets, they could see us celebrating our founding fathers on that monument in South Dakota and being proud of being American. We did that for many years, but we lost those fireworks when President Obama came into office. He took away our ability to host them. So one of the things that I asked President Trump even before I was sworn in as governor, was to help me get back our fireworks celebration. It was our opportunity to showcase South Dakota, showcase Mount Rushmore, and to really be patriots and celebrate independence. President Trump became extremely dedicated to helping do that and we did, and I think most everybody in the country had an opportunity to see part of that celebration last year. When we had agreed to do that celebration, we had signed memorandums of agreement to continue hosting that celebration every single year. We went through the environmental permitting processes, We had agreements with Forest Service, National Park Service, Wildland Fire on a go no go checklist to deal with potential fire hazards. We had local leaders sign on for facilitating getting in and out, and had gone through every single logistical negotiation and gotten that done so these celebrations could continue to happen. But when President Biden came into office and denied us our permits that we were to be allocated according to that agreement. There was no reason given, And I guess that's my biggest problem is that if he would have cited environmental concerns, if he would have cited fire dangers, you know, even public health issues, which last year we hosted it during the pandemic and did not have an event that spread the virus. We allowed people to come and to be a part of it. So that was the thing that is challenging for me is that President Biden took it away with no reason other than, we believe, just to be political and to not celebrate America.

I read yesterday that the Defense Department has refused to issue a permit to Rolling Thunder, which is the annual Memorial Day weekend. People arrive on motorcycles, huge numbers, and really in celebration of our wounded veterans and as a very very pro American thing. All of a sudden I found out that they had blocked it from using the Pentagon parking lot, which is empty on Memorial Day weekend. And it just struck me that very parallel to what you're experiencing, they go out of their way to avoid celebrating America.

I read yesterday that the Defense Department has refused to issue a permit to Rolling Thunder, which is the annual Memorial Day weekend. People arrive on motorcycles, huge numbers, and really in celebration of our wounded veterans and as a very very pro American thing. All of a sudden I found out that they had blocked it from using the Pentagon parking lot, which is empty on Memorial Day weekend. And it just struck me that very parallel to what you're experiencing, they go out of their way to avoid celebrating America.

They do, and I had not heard that. That makes me sad because our country needs to unify at this point in time. We need an opportunity to come together and be proud of our background, our history and talk about it. It's through events like this that our kids see it on TV, they hear about it in the news, and then we have conversations that educate them on why they're still free and why they have liberties that have been defended and fought for and protected for so many years. So that's what is the sad. Consequence of this is that I'm obviously suing the Biden administration to get my fireworks back. But what's interesting is President Biden was the one himself who stood up on national TV and said we could celebrate our freedom from this virus by Independence Day. So he declared that himself that by the time we get to July fourth, we should be celebrating our independence from the virus. What better way than to do that, Mount Rushmore celebrating our America's independence and freedom and birthday.

They do, and I had not heard that. That makes me sad because our country needs to unify at this point in time. We need an opportunity to come together and be proud of our background, our history and talk about it. It's through events like this that our kids see it on TV, they hear about it in the news, and then we have conversations that educate them on why they're still free and why they have liberties that have been defended and fought for and protected for so many years. So that's what is the sad. Consequence of this is that I'm obviously suing the Biden administration to get my fireworks back. But what's interesting is President Biden was the one himself who stood up on national TV and said we could celebrate our freedom from this virus by Independence Day. So he declared that himself that by the time we get to July fourth, we should be celebrating our independence from the virus. What better way than to do that, Mount Rushmore celebrating our America's independence and freedom and birthday.

So this whole notion of not celebrating America, the whole effort by the left to rewrite American history, something which you wrote an op editor on Fox News with Secretary Ben Carson, and you signed the seventeen seventy six Pledge to Save our Schools. Tell me you're thinking about all this and how you hope will develop not just in South Dakota but also around the country.

So this whole notion of not celebrating America, the whole effort by the left to rewrite American history, something which you wrote an op editor on Fox News with Secretary Ben Carson, and you signed the seventeen seventy six Pledge to Save our Schools. Tell me you're thinking about all this and how you hope will develop not just in South Dakota but also around the country.

Well, it's kind of a longer story than probably what we've seen over the last year developed. But when I first was sworn in as governor, so almost three years ago, I brought a bill to my legislature and asked them to put more civics and history into our curriculum to teach more of America's background. It was killed by Republicans. My Republican legislature defeated that, saying it wasn't necessary. And I started to realize that people didn't necessarily know how important it was to focus teaching our children that background and give them that kind of insight into our true patriotic background. When I got into the COVID nineteen pandemic and started to make decisions, it was very much based on what authority I had as a governor and what authority I didn't have as a governor. I took my oath to the State Constitution, the US Constitution. Seriously, I didn't just consult with my health professionals and researchers. I also consulted with my general counsel and constitutional attorneys to find out exactly what a governor's role is and what a governor's role isn't. So I made my decisions based off of that, and it was all based on that foundation of a country, because I just believed that when a governor oversteps their authority in a time of crisis, or when a leader does that, that's really when you break America. So you know, I made those decisions. But we also watched the riots happen across the country last year. We watched protests. We watched people give up their freedoms, their freedom of assembly, They let the government tell them they had to shelter in place. They lost their freedom of religion, they let the government tell them they couldn't go to church, they lost their freedom of speech. By what we saw happening with our social media giants that control the narrative out there, and I realized I couldn't just talk about the decisions that I was making in South Dakota anymore, which were different than any other governor in the country was making that I needed to tell people why I was making the decisions that I made. So some of those press conferences that I held in the middle of the pandemic, in the middle of the summer last year were just about freedom and about our constitution and educating people as to what the Constitution said my role was and why I was making the decisions not to shut down our state, not to close any businesses, not to even define what an essential business was, because I, as a governor, didn't have the authority to tell you your business wasn't essential. And that was something that as I went on and on and on, I became more and more alarmed as to how ignorant people really were to the background in history that is the truth about America. So that's why I was the first governor this week in the country to sign on to the seventeen seventy six Pledge that says in our school systems we need an honest accounting for our history. We need our true history to be taught, and that we have to push back on critical race theory, on the sixteen nineteen project. We need to point out how they are absolutely pushing lies to our children about what America is about, and that we need to make sure that that is a priority for us, and that I'll continue to do that because in this day and age, leaders can't just be making decisions. They need to take on the responsibility of really educating people as to what our true history is and why it's still important today and into the future.

Well, it's kind of a longer story than probably what we've seen over the last year developed. But when I first was sworn in as governor, so almost three years ago, I brought a bill to my legislature and asked them to put more civics and history into our curriculum to teach more of America's background. It was killed by Republicans. My Republican legislature defeated that, saying it wasn't necessary. And I started to realize that people didn't necessarily know how important it was to focus teaching our children that background and give them that kind of insight into our true patriotic background. When I got into the COVID nineteen pandemic and started to make decisions, it was very much based on what authority I had as a governor and what authority I didn't have as a governor. I took my oath to the State Constitution, the US Constitution. Seriously, I didn't just consult with my health professionals and researchers. I also consulted with my general counsel and constitutional attorneys to find out exactly what a governor's role is and what a governor's role isn't. So I made my decisions based off of that, and it was all based on that foundation of a country, because I just believed that when a governor oversteps their authority in a time of crisis, or when a leader does that, that's really when you break America. So you know, I made those decisions. But we also watched the riots happen across the country last year. We watched protests. We watched people give up their freedoms, their freedom of assembly, They let the government tell them they had to shelter in place. They lost their freedom of religion, they let the government tell them they couldn't go to church, they lost their freedom of speech. By what we saw happening with our social media giants that control the narrative out there, and I realized I couldn't just talk about the decisions that I was making in South Dakota anymore, which were different than any other governor in the country was making that I needed to tell people why I was making the decisions that I made. So some of those press conferences that I held in the middle of the pandemic, in the middle of the summer last year were just about freedom and about our constitution and educating people as to what the Constitution said my role was and why I was making the decisions not to shut down our state, not to close any businesses, not to even define what an essential business was, because I, as a governor, didn't have the authority to tell you your business wasn't essential. And that was something that as I went on and on and on, I became more and more alarmed as to how ignorant people really were to the background in history that is the truth about America. So that's why I was the first governor this week in the country to sign on to the seventeen seventy six Pledge that says in our school systems we need an honest accounting for our history. We need our true history to be taught, and that we have to push back on critical race theory, on the sixteen nineteen project. We need to point out how they are absolutely pushing lies to our children about what America is about, and that we need to make sure that that is a priority for us, and that I'll continue to do that because in this day and age, leaders can't just be making decisions. They need to take on the responsibility of really educating people as to what our true history is and why it's still important today and into the future.

So, I mean, I think this is really important. It was interesting in Ronald Reagan's farewell address, he said after going through the great things they had achieved, he said the greatest failure was turning around the teaching of American history and that it worried him more than any other single thing that they had failed to get done. So, in a sense, you have picked up the torch for something that President Reagan felt was at the heart of what threatened us as a country, because it literally is an anti American movement to change things, and it changed things in ways that I think very unacceptable to most people. You may know that less Saturday in Texas, there was a local community which had a vote on this topic, and seventy one percent voted to elect a school board that was committed to the same policies that you are, and I thought it was very interesting that seventy one percent means to be a pretty good vote, and I think it shocked some of the people and the news media to realize it. Maybe their view is not all that popular out there in the country at large. Let me give you a chance to explain the only thing that people have said that I think has confused or blurred what is otherwise so far an extraordinary performance by you as governor, as congresswoman, and as an emerging truly national leader. And that's this whole issue about protecting women's sports, because at best it seems kind of muddled with the legislature passing something, and I think you vetoed it, but then you issued and executive were I just want to give you a minut or two to sort of explain to the folks what the state of play was, what's happening, because as I listened to you the other night at Marlgo, I had a feeling like there's a different story than the one the news media may have carried.

So, I mean, I think this is really important. It was interesting in Ronald Reagan's farewell address, he said after going through the great things they had achieved, he said the greatest failure was turning around the teaching of American history and that it worried him more than any other single thing that they had failed to get done. So, in a sense, you have picked up the torch for something that President Reagan felt was at the heart of what threatened us as a country, because it literally is an anti American movement to change things, and it changed things in ways that I think very unacceptable to most people. You may know that less Saturday in Texas, there was a local community which had a vote on this topic, and seventy one percent voted to elect a school board that was committed to the same policies that you are, and I thought it was very interesting that seventy one percent means to be a pretty good vote, and I think it shocked some of the people and the news media to realize it. Maybe their view is not all that popular out there in the country at large. Let me give you a chance to explain the only thing that people have said that I think has confused or blurred what is otherwise so far an extraordinary performance by you as governor, as congresswoman, and as an emerging truly national leader. And that's this whole issue about protecting women's sports, because at best it seems kind of muddled with the legislature passing something, and I think you vetoed it, but then you issued and executive were I just want to give you a minut or two to sort of explain to the folks what the state of play was, what's happening, because as I listened to you the other night at Marlgo, I had a feeling like there's a different story than the one the news media may have carried.

Yes, and you're exactly right. I have always fought for only girls to play in girls' sports. In fact, years ago, the federal government came out to the state of South Dakota and told the Sport of Rodeo that they could no longer have girls events and boys events, that they had to be open to everybody. And I was in Congress at the time, and I went to war to protect the girls events and the boys events and to push back on the federal government. I remember during that time it was incredibly lonely because no other member of Congress would help, none of my delegation, and not even the governor at the time. But I partnered with the Sport of Rodeo to push back, and with Sunny Purdue's help at USDA, was able to get them to reverse course so that Rodeo could always continue the way that it has and have girls events and boys events. So that's one of the reasons nude. I think I was so by how the story got told in the national media because I have a long history on this issue and a very public fight with the federal government to ensure we were protecting girls sports. But my legislature passed me a bill during the legislative session that would have ensured that in the K twelve system in collegiate system that girls only played girls' sports, but it also had a lot of other elements to it. It opened up an opportunity for every child who played sports to sue other children on that team if they didn't make it on the team. It allowed them to sue the school district if they were not chosen to be a part of the team, and it allowed them to sue for emotional damages with no cap And then the enforcement actions were extremely flawed, and so what I asked my legislature to do was to change it. I did not veto the bill. What I did is I sent it to the legislature and said, fix this bill and I will sign it. Unfortunately, my legislature did not accept the changes, and the bill died. The story that got told in the national media was that I vetoed it, which absolutely wasn't true. So what I did after the legislature did not accept the changes was I put two executive orders in place that said only girls will play in girls sports in my public schools, and then also only girls will play in girl sports at the collegiate level. And those executive orders will stand until my legislature passes bills that can be signed into law. But what happened in the press and with conservatives is that they read a headline. They didn't read the bill. They didn't see the bill that my legislature sent me, which was unlike any other bill in the country. There was no other bill that passed through any other state that had the flaws in it that mine did. And I just believe that it's not my job to sign bad bills that have a lot of other unintended consequences, and it's my job to fix them, which is what I did when I asked the legislature to change it. I wish they would have accepted it. But in the meantime, these executive orders will stand until we get a bill that I can sign into law.

Yes, and you're exactly right. I have always fought for only girls to play in girls' sports. In fact, years ago, the federal government came out to the state of South Dakota and told the Sport of Rodeo that they could no longer have girls events and boys events, that they had to be open to everybody. And I was in Congress at the time, and I went to war to protect the girls events and the boys events and to push back on the federal government. I remember during that time it was incredibly lonely because no other member of Congress would help, none of my delegation, and not even the governor at the time. But I partnered with the Sport of Rodeo to push back, and with Sunny Purdue's help at USDA, was able to get them to reverse course so that Rodeo could always continue the way that it has and have girls events and boys events. So that's one of the reasons nude. I think I was so by how the story got told in the national media because I have a long history on this issue and a very public fight with the federal government to ensure we were protecting girls sports. But my legislature passed me a bill during the legislative session that would have ensured that in the K twelve system in collegiate system that girls only played girls' sports, but it also had a lot of other elements to it. It opened up an opportunity for every child who played sports to sue other children on that team if they didn't make it on the team. It allowed them to sue the school district if they were not chosen to be a part of the team, and it allowed them to sue for emotional damages with no cap And then the enforcement actions were extremely flawed, and so what I asked my legislature to do was to change it. I did not veto the bill. What I did is I sent it to the legislature and said, fix this bill and I will sign it. Unfortunately, my legislature did not accept the changes, and the bill died. The story that got told in the national media was that I vetoed it, which absolutely wasn't true. So what I did after the legislature did not accept the changes was I put two executive orders in place that said only girls will play in girls sports in my public schools, and then also only girls will play in girl sports at the collegiate level. And those executive orders will stand until my legislature passes bills that can be signed into law. But what happened in the press and with conservatives is that they read a headline. They didn't read the bill. They didn't see the bill that my legislature sent me, which was unlike any other bill in the country. There was no other bill that passed through any other state that had the flaws in it that mine did. And I just believe that it's not my job to sign bad bills that have a lot of other unintended consequences, and it's my job to fix them, which is what I did when I asked the legislature to change it. I wish they would have accepted it. But in the meantime, these executive orders will stand until we get a bill that I can sign into law.

That's really really helpful. I have to ask you when you were back there, I assume you were competing in rodeo.

That's really really helpful. I have to ask you when you were back there, I assume you were competing in rodeo.

Yes, I grew up competing in rodeo. I was a rodeo coach. My kids rodeoed as well. It's a very big part of our life here in South Dakota. It is our sport.

Yes, I grew up competing in rodeo. I was a rodeo coach. My kids rodeoed as well. It's a very big part of our life here in South Dakota. It is our sport.

Which events did you compete in?

Which events did you compete in?

I did barrels, polls in goat tying, So those were the ones that I spent all my time competing in.

I did barrels, polls in goat tying, So those were the ones that I spent all my time competing in.

Were you a champion goat time?

Were you a champion goat time?

I was pretty quick, but I don't know if I was the champion. Those goats are pretty wily.

I was pretty quick, but I don't know if I was the champion. Those goats are pretty wily.

I'm just thinking about if some people's hopes for you pan out a little bit like honestay splitting the logs. I mean, I have this image of you tying goats and saying, I think I can master the Congress.

I'm just thinking about if some people's hopes for you pan out a little bit like honestay splitting the logs. I mean, I have this image of you tying goats and saying, I think I can master the Congress.

That's right. You know, I think most of our family stories and memories are of either cattle, livestock, or these rodeo events. You know, me and my girls would travel from rodeo to rodeo each weekend. We'd sleep in our trailer, and it's a tough, dirty way of life, but so special. We have so many memories.

That's right. You know, I think most of our family stories and memories are of either cattle, livestock, or these rodeo events. You know, me and my girls would travel from rodeo to rodeo each weekend. We'd sleep in our trailer, and it's a tough, dirty way of life, but so special. We have so many memories.

Did you go down to Cheyenne?

Did you go down to Cheyenne?

Yes, I've been there before, but I need to get back there. Cynthia keeps inviting me.

Yes, I've been there before, but I need to get back there. Cynthia keeps inviting me.

As I understand it. That's just an amazing center.

As I understand it. That's just an amazing center.

Well in the history around that rodeo is incredible. It was so sad for me to even see a lot of rodeos get canceled this last year because of COVID. Because they're outdoors and these people wanted to have their sporting event. I think it was also amazing to me to watch Rodeo Champion America. If you watched a rodeo this year. They are such patriotic Americans that love this country that a lot of folks who couldn't stand to watch the NFL for the agenda they were pushing League Baseball for what they were pushing Roleo would never do anything like that. They love this country and any chance they get to tell it story, they will.

Well in the history around that rodeo is incredible. It was so sad for me to even see a lot of rodeos get canceled this last year because of COVID. Because they're outdoors and these people wanted to have their sporting event. I think it was also amazing to me to watch Rodeo Champion America. If you watched a rodeo this year. They are such patriotic Americans that love this country that a lot of folks who couldn't stand to watch the NFL for the agenda they were pushing League Baseball for what they were pushing Roleo would never do anything like that. They love this country and any chance they get to tell it story, they will.

And I suspect in terms of the threat of COVID, if you're willing to get out there in the arena with a bull, probably you don't regard risk taking quite the same as if you're sitting in a high rise in New York City.

And I suspect in terms of the threat of COVID, if you're willing to get out there in the arena with a bull, probably you don't regard risk taking quite the same as if you're sitting in a high rise in New York City.

That's exactly true.

That's exactly true.

They're toughs Well, well, listen, you are a terrific leader, you have a very big future, and you're also a good sport. And I really appreciate the way you've talked candidly and openly about things, and I wish you well and I think all of us are going to be hearing a great deal more from you.

They're toughs Well, well, listen, you are a terrific leader, you have a very big future, and you're also a good sport. And I really appreciate the way you've talked candidly and openly about things, and I wish you well and I think all of us are going to be hearing a great deal more from you.

Well, let's visit again soon. I enjoyed it, and I would love to chat with folks, especially when it comes to this education process that we need to have with our kids. And honestly, there's a lot of adults that don't understand the importance of protecting our constitution and our freedoms and what our history means to us.

Well, let's visit again soon. I enjoyed it, and I would love to chat with folks, especially when it comes to this education process that we need to have with our kids. And honestly, there's a lot of adults that don't understand the importance of protecting our constitution and our freedoms and what our history means to us.

There's an enormous vacuum right now for somebody to fill to help citizens understand what their rights are, and what they can do to change the schools, and what they can do to make sure their children learn patriotic and accurate history. I have a hunch that we're going to be seeing you around the country.

There's an enormous vacuum right now for somebody to fill to help citizens understand what their rights are, and what they can do to change the schools, and what they can do to make sure their children learn patriotic and accurate history. I have a hunch that we're going to be seeing you around the country.

Yes, let me tell you, newt Everything you're seeing in South Dakota that's successful right now is because I adhere to the history and the perspective their founding fathers gave us. We are the fastest growing economy, the lowest unemployment in the nation. We have thousands of people moving to our state, and we have historic revenues coming in and it's all because we adhere to conservative principles as defined by our founding fathers that were given to us at the beginning of this country. And that's the testimony people should use to really blueprint out how their way of life should be protected.

Yes, let me tell you, newt Everything you're seeing in South Dakota that's successful right now is because I adhere to the history and the perspective their founding fathers gave us. We are the fastest growing economy, the lowest unemployment in the nation. We have thousands of people moving to our state, and we have historic revenues coming in and it's all because we adhere to conservative principles as defined by our founding fathers that were given to us at the beginning of this country. And that's the testimony people should use to really blueprint out how their way of life should be protected.

That's great listen.

That's great listen.

Thank you very very much, you bet, thanks Nilan.

Thank you very very much, you bet, thanks Nilan.

Thank you to my guest Governor Christy No. You can read more about the topics we discussed in this episode on our show pageworld dot com. Newtsworld is produced by Gingrich three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Guarnsey Sloan and our researcher is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for the show was created by Steve Penley. Special thanks to the team at Gingrich three sixty. If you've been enjoying Newtsworld, I hope you'll go to Apple Podcast and both rate us with five stars and give us a review so others can learn what it's all about. Right now, listeners of Newtsworld can sign up for my three free weekly columns at gingrichthree sixty dot com slash newsletter. I'm newt Gingrich. This is Nutsworld.

Thank you to my guest Governor Christy No. You can read more about the topics we discussed in this episode on our show pageworld dot com. Newtsworld is produced by Gingrich three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Guarnsey Sloan and our researcher is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for the show was created by Steve Penley. Special thanks to the team at Gingrich three sixty. If you've been enjoying Newtsworld, I hope you'll go to Apple Podcast and both rate us with five stars and give us a review so others can learn what it's all about. Right now, listeners of Newtsworld can sign up for my three free weekly columns at gingrichthree sixty dot com slash newsletter. I'm newt Gingrich. This is Nutsworld.