Episode 672: Angel Studios Cabrini

Published Mar 10, 2024, 9:00 AM

Italian immigrant Francesca Cabrini, who arrived in America in 1889, is celebrated in the new film Cabrini. Despite facing disease, crime, and impoverished children in New York slums, Cabrini convinced the hostile mayor to secure housing and healthcare for orphan children. The film is directed by Alejandro Monteverde and produced and distributed by Angel Studios. Jeff Harmon, co-founder and chief content officer of Angel Studios, and Eduardo Verástegui, executive producer for the film, discuss the making of the film and the impact of Mother Cabrini's life. The film is now showing in theaters nationwide. Buy tickets at Angel.com/Cabrini

On this episode of Newsworld. When Italian immigrant Francesco Cabrini arrived in America in eighteen eighty nine, she was greeted by disease, crime, and impoverished children living in New York slums. Armed with a fearless spirit and a compassionate heart, Cabrini sets off on a daring mission to convince the hostile mayor to secure housing and healthcare for societies most vulnerable orphan children. Despite broken English and poor health, Cabrini leverages her entrepreneurial mind to build an empire of hope unlike anything the world had ever seen. Now. Mother Cabrini's life is celebrated in the new film Cabrini, which opened this weekend in theaters nationwide and is directed by Alejandro Monteverdi and produced and distributed by Angel Studios. Here to talk about Mother Cabrini and their new film, I'm really pleased to welcome my two guests, Jeff Harmon, co founder and Chief Content Officer of Angel Studios, and Eduardo Rostage, executive producer for the film. Jeff and EDWARDO, thank you for joining me on news World.

Great to be here.

Thank you.

Oh this will like so much to work you guys have been doing through Angel Studios. Jeff, can you talk about the founding of Angel Studios? I mean, you grew up working on potato farms. Somehow that wasn't the normal beginning of a film creator.

Yeah.

I grew up in the middle of nine children, six boys and three girls, and we had three TV stations where we grew up and on the potato farms and Decklo and Burley, Idaho. It wasn't even on my radar that would eventually be an executive at a top ten US Hollywood studio. I could count the number of movies I watched in theaters growing up on one hand, and they were all at the Dollar Show.

How do you move from potatoes to movies?

When I went to university my roommates. Two of my roommates, one was a screenwriter studying screenwriting in school and another one was studying photography for film, and both of them, one of them is directing a movie right now for Angel actually and at least he's hoping to get into Angel And another one is a major YouTuber called Devin Supertramp. They introduced me to film and I had sell skills so my brothers and I we would take my grandpa's potatoes from the farm in Idaho, borrow a pickup truck from the farm, and then drive them three hours south to Utah and sell potatoes door to door as kids, and I learned that I could buy a box of potatoes for like a dollar or two and I could sell them for twenty dollars in Utah, And so I built a little business off of that, and I learned to sell thousands of boxes of potatoes. And those sell skills came in later in my life when we were trying to market a product called ore Brush, and we built an ad agency around that concept. And so we took cell skills, mixed them with the video from my roommate Devin Supertramp, and we built our first commercials for YouTube, which blew up built a large company. Then we built an ad agency and did Poopery, squatty potty, purple Mattress, new Mediodorant, big viral video hits. And then eventually read the book Creativity, Inc. And saw that Pixar was first an agency and then they became a studio, and we thought, oh, we could do something like that, and so we set off on trying to build the foundations of what would eventually become Angel Studios.

So you early on though, are doing like two to five minute videos as viral ads.

Yeah, if you've ever seen like the squatty potty pooping unicorn where it's pooping ice cream, and I think it is still considered the biggest viral video campaign for an ad of all time. If you look at the top viral video ads on YouTube and Facebook of all time, we did more of them than any other agency.

You're making a good living, you have a niche that you have learned to basically dominate, and suddenly you go towards movies.

Yeah, my brother Neil, who's the CEO of Angel Studios right now, he and Jordan who's also a co founder at Angel, they were working on this product that would skip and mute. It's kind of a roundabout way how we got here. Skip and mute scenes so skip seeing or mute words and movies that we found unacceptable for our children. And Neil came to me and said, let's do this as our next business. Let's build a company that streams movies to people that they've purchased. But it's like an automatic remote control. It takes out rape scenes or very profane language so that you can watch it more with your family or your teenagers or whatever, the things you don't want your kids to hear or see. And I was resistant to it. I didn't want to start a business that I thought we'd get sued with because before our company, there had been a bunch of other companies build these technologies around DVDs and VCRs and they had all been sued out of existence by the studio system. So I told Neil, I said, I don't think I want to do that, and Neil said, well, what if we do this? The system will accumulate. The moral compass of America will come around this service, and when they use it, eventually will have a big enough group that we can make content for this group rather than just skipping and muting the content the content that's coming out of Hollywood. And that's when I said, Okay, let's do this. And we did it, and we got sued by Disney, twentieth Century Fox, Warner Brothers. That lawsuit lasted for years, cost millions of dollars, and in that process of being sued and having the lowest point of our business, we actually transitioned into making content sooner than we expected, and we eventually helped build The Chosen, which is TV series. We built Drive our comedy, another TV series which is stand up comedy that's cleaner, and we built Tuttle Twins, which is a kid series that teaches kids about principles of freedom and economics. And we have built a studio now out of the ashes of what was a major lawsuit with Disney, in this big battle that we eventually settled out of, and we have built a studio that is launching series after series after series, and then we eventually got into theatrical last year.

Well, what's amazing about Angel Studios is both how you raise money, how you pre sell tickets, and how you engage your investors in having a real voice about their investments. It's a very sophisticated and extraordinarily successful model.

Yeah, so when we got sued by Disney, this came out of necessity. This model was born by accident in a lot of ways, or born by divine providence. When we got sued, we didn't have the money to fight a major lawsuit with the largest studio in the world, and venture capitalists don't usually want to come in and invest in lawsuits. That's not their favorite thing to do. And the Jobs Act had just passed, which Obama had signed, and eight companies before done this, and this law allowed everyday people, not millionaires, to invest in venture projects. And we were the ninth company to try this, and we took it to our customers and said, we don't have the money to fight this lawsuit, but if you would like us too, it's going to cost at least five million dollars and we can fight this lawsuit up to the Supreme Court. And we ended up raising about eleven million dollars in a five day period from eight thousand families across the world. After that, my brother who's a film director, he created Tuttle Twins, the series title Twins. He called me and he said, Jeff, do you realize what you just stumbled onto. We can now fund major projects that can compete with Hollywood on an excellence level, and we've never been able to do this before. And it clicked. It was like, Oh, that's how we do this is we bring together people who want to see the content and don't wait for Hollywood to make it. We make it. And the first big project we crowdfunded was the Chosen. That was seventeen thousand investors invested in The Chosen over a eighteen month period, and we launched The Chosen, and then we launched Tuttle Twins, and we launched the Wing, Feather Saga, et cetera. Then it's evolved even since then. When Eduardo came on. Eduardo and his team, we raised five million dollars in what's called p and A which is prints and advertising to take your movie to theaters. And so the crowd thousands of people came in around Eduardo and his team and raised money to pay to bring Sound of Freedom to theaters rather than just paying to produce it. That's the way that we had done it with The Chosen. Now it was paying to get it to the world. And those thousands of people be come your army. They're the people who go and proselytize the films to the world. So we raised a p and A round with Sound of Freedom, launched it in theaters, it exploded, and then those investors got paid back. We've done four theatrical releases where people have invested in the theater, released the prints and advertising, and each time those audiences have gotten a return on their investment within I think about ninety days.

Did you have any idea when you launched The Chosen that it would become as big as it did?

We hoped, so we pitched Dallas. So this is a completely unusual story. We're in the middle of this gigantic lawsuit with Disney. Matthew Faraci, who's a close friend of ours, an Orthodox Jew, sends over this short film called The Shepherd, and it's the pilot episode of The Chosen, and I watched it, and when I was watching it, it was like a download of inspiration, and I could see how to take everything we had learned with selling poopery squatty potty Purple Mattress, and taking everything that we had learned about crowdfunding against Disney and everything that we were learning about the Hollywood system and bringing all together and funding this Chosen series. But we did not think that this show was going to be like I thought, maybe a popular show, but it's a top ten show. And it was after a year or two we started realizing, oh, we might be able to actually go for a Game of Thrones size series with this. Let's try to take this show to a billion people. But that wasn't an instantaneous understanding. Dallas said that when we were writing the script about pitching the initial series, that I told him as we were in the script was like, Oh, we're going to bring this show to millions of people around the world. And that's probably the closest thing we had. But now it's over. I think it's close to two hundred million people worldwide. It's reached.

You go from there and you create the Sound of Freedom, which is an astonishing movie. I remember being with Eduardo at the Capitol when the then Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, hosted a showing of the film. It's just an amazing movie, and I thought an act of great courage to do it. Did you too feel like it was a courageous moment to tackle something that challenging in that bold.

Eduardo, you're the one who made that film over eight years while we were fighting. I know we hadn't met each other with that, but you were fighting your own battles with Disney, right.

Well, it's crazy, how you know.

In one hand, it's a little bit more than eight years now, almost nine years twenty fifteen. Actually, when I met these incredible people in Los Angeles, California.

You know, I was just finishing the lunching of Little Boy in the Whole World.

It's a movie that we did before Some of Freedom, almost like using Little Boy to campaign around the world on why it's so important to put in.

Practice the corporal works of mercy.

And I was pretty much using the movie to inspire people to do, you know, with their talents something so we can make this work a better place right. And while I was doing that, I ended up meeting these incredible people in Los Angeles who are experts in wresculing children kidnap for sexual respectation around the world. And when they shared with me in details what they do to these children around the world and how they travel around the world. These guys professional you know xnabcos XCI agents, how they travel undercover around the world wrestling these children.

I was very moved.

I was inspired in one hand to meet these amazing heroes, but in the other hand, I was very sad. I couldn't sleep. You know, when you find out how these kids around the world are being raped ten to fifteen times a day for many years until the clients they don't want them anymore because they're not fresh meat anymore. That's the kind of vocabulary that they use. You know what happened to many of these children. They opened them and sell their organs, and it was like it was too much to carry that. I decided just to join the movement with them. I say, I want to do something. You know, I have a weapon of mass instruction, which is mass instruction and inspiration, which is films. Movies. Movies can move people, and we need to create a movement. Because I remember asking them why this problem? I mean, if this is a global problem, and especially the US and Mexico, how come US and Mexico, you know, with the technology and the funds and the intelligence and the army and the police, why don't we just finish this problem once and for all. And they answered me because it's not a priority. So how can we turn this into priority? We need a movement. And that's when we decided to start writing the script. Alejandro monte Verdez writing descript broad Bar. I took them a few years to finish the story Sound of Freedom. Then we started raising the funds, and then I sold the project to Fox Latin America. And so far everything was amazing until Disney by Fox. When Disney bought Fox for like eighty billion dollars something like that, all of a sudden, Ton of Freedom was the property.

Owned by Disney.

But then Disney, when they saw the movie, they told me, this is not for us, this movie is not for us. Okay, well then I'm happy to you know, take it with me. Yes, but you need to pay the debt. And I remember I was owing a lot of money to Fox, which now.

Is to Disney. So it took me like two years to pay them.

Because COVID hit, they closed all the theaters, so who wanted to invest in a movie where now theaters were close?

And I was like along in my.

Apartment in Mexico, like you know, when the whole thing was the close everything. And finally I was able to raise the money, by the grace of God and pay Disney take the rights back. And then I started doing a campaign in Mexico against child trafficking, showing the movie to every single governor, you know, asking them please and child trafficking in your state. Use the movie to raise awareness, but then let's send an agreement where we commit to child traffick in your state. Took me two years to finish this campaign against child trafficking in Mexico with one hand. With the other hand, I was praying to God, please send an angel to rescue this movie.

Please send an angel to rescue this movie. And next thing, you.

Know, two years later, after being rejected by Hollywood for almost four years, five years, all the experts who told us this movie.

Is never gonna work, never gonna work.

And then Angel Studios called me, so imagine what I'm praying to God to send an angel. And then Angel Studious called me, Hey, one of the worst studio here. We just finished this lawsuit with Disney and everything. It seems like we have something in common. You know, I think we are your last option. Why don't we do this together. We believe in the division and the mission that you guys have. So this is like April last year, and we met. We signed the deal literally like a week later. And the next thing, you know, Neil, Jeff and Jordan they tell me, okay, so we just sign the deal. Let's put this film out on July fourth. Guys, are you crazy? July fourth is like, I mean, we're in depending filmmakers. This film is going to be competing with Indiana Jones and mission impossible. There's no way we're going to compete with them. I mean, if we're lucky, we're going to raise five million dollars p and A against hundreds of millions of dollars PNA.

These guys have they own the industry.

I mean it's like a big establishment, big mafia who they own everything.

Where's just hey, have faith? God?

Oh, come on, let's do something on July fourth, because it's Independence Day. It's freedom right, So let's remind the United States that we need to do something to bring freedom back to the children that are not free. There's most labor today than when slavery was legal, and many of those slaves are children. So we need to do something on that day. So we agree. And I'm so grateful for the faith that Angel Studios had in a Town of Freedom and all the incredible work they put together for the launching of Toun of Freedom.

And thank you Newt for that.

Interview that you did for us and all the support, and he became ambassador of freedom for this movie and for this movement, and so many people around the world became ambassadors of freedom. Mel Gibson, who was one of ourselves producers. He never never records videos to you know, recommending films, and he did in these occasions. And what this is, you know, the first step to radic HLD traffic in inst rational awareness.

I need everyone to see this movie.

And Tony Robbins and Alejandro Sanz, who is one of the you know, he's like the Bono of Latin America, and so many celebrities and political leaders like the President of El Salvador, the President of Argentina, the president of Whatatemada, the president of Costa Rica, all of them like doing premiers in their country, signing agreements with those two incial trafficking all. The movie opens, you know, number one in the box office on July fourth. But you know what, Hollywood didn't believe in this movie. But you know who did. The people. The people stow up and they recorded videos. After the film was finished, they started recording their own videos on social media. I'm promoting the movie, so hundreds of thousands of videos on internet, on social media. You know, it was like an army, as Jeffrey said, a big army of ambassadors of freedom and showing up in theaters and recommending this movie. It became the first time ever in history that an independent film comes out on July fourth and.

Opens number one in the box office.

I'm so grateful to the people to you knew too, and studios and all the ambassadors who supported this amazing movement.

It keeps growing and growing and growing. It just came out in Italy like a couple of weeks ago.

When Colosto was the ambassador of the Vatican. This was one of her three major commitments and she spent three and a half years on It's a huge worldwide problem and I think it's a great tribute to people that this film, which is a very powerful film, has attracted this kind of worldwide audience. It's attracting and I think it is heavy an impact. What led you all to decide that Mother Cabrini was next.

Well, you know, we go way back. We started this dream of making movies.

That matters in two thousand and four when Alejandro Monteverde, the director of Bella Little Boy, Son of Freedom and now Cabrini, Leosabdino, producer from Columbia who was born in Los Angeles.

The three of us Colos, the three amigos.

We started this dream of making movies that matters in two thousand and four, Los Angeles, California. And the first person who believe in us, the first person who financed our first movie, our first dream, which was Bella, was Eustace Wolfington, a big entrepreneur, you know, very successful man from Philadelphia, and he's the one who financed him and his nephew, John Wolfington financed Bella and help us to achieve this beautiful dream to you know, which for us was the first film that Ale Handa directed, my first film that I produced, the first film that liuis Arena produced. So we were very grateful with Eustace Woffington. And since day one, he always talked about Mother Cabrini. We didn't know who she was, but he said, she's my patron saint. I love Mother Cabrini. My dream one day would be to make a movie about Mother Cabrini. But we didn't pay attention, which is you know, now, it's all about Bella.

Let's focus on Bella. So we finished Bella.

Later on we did Little Boy, then we started doing Sound of Freedom, and then Eustace, I remember, we're in this meeting in Los Angeles.

I said, I don't I don't want to die before I make this movie.

I made a promise to Mother Cabrini that I will do whatever is in my hands to make her movie.

And I said, well, the first time we need is the script. What don't you call Leo right now?

Because Leo is writing the script with roth Bark, which is the same writer that wrote Little Boy with Alejandro. So literally the next day he calls Leo and Leo, I want to meet with you and rod Bar and they met. Next thing, you know, roth Bar reached like thirty books of Mother Cabrini. Next thing, you know, roth Bar and Eustace and I were in Rome and they started visiting every single place where she was hanging out at the time, you know, but I was focused on raising funds to pay the debt to Disney, and by that time the script was finished.

Alejandro reached the script. He falls in love. He said, this is my next movie. Oh my gosh, this is an amazing hero.

And you just, guys, I've been telling you about Maryabrine since day one. You never pay attention. You were so busy. Well, it was not meant to be. It was not the right time. Now it's the right time, because now we're ready to do it. And now we're better filmmakers than before, right and after Bella, Little Boy and Freedom, I think we have a little more experience now to put all that experience to Mother Cabrini. And that's how the story came. It's all because of Eustace Wolfington. And then let me see something why this man is such an amazing hero to us. He's our mentor. He's the first one. I mean, we exist as a filmmakers because of Eustace Wolfington. He said only one condition, guys, we want to make this movie, but notine ten percent, not twenty percent, not forty percent, not eighty percent, one hundred percent of the profit. We need to donate the profit to continue the legacy of Mother Cabrini.

This is not about us.

This is not about who owns what or you know, giving points to the cast, to the you know, director, producers. No, we don't want to own anything all the profits of this film. We need to help the poort, as Mother Cabrine taught us. And of course we all agree, he's the mentor, he's the boss. And Eustace has been nothing but an amazing role model for all of us. He leads by example, and Mother Cabrini represents who uses Walfington is for all of us, and this is a gift to the world. This is a movie about, you know women. For me, this is a true feminist movement, women that I'm powered by God. You know, every single woman that has got in the center of their lives. Whatever they do, whatever they taught, miracles happens. And my hope with this film is that when people come to see it, when fathers bring their daughters to see this film, my hope is that when they leave the theater, they will live not only entertained, but these young women that will leave wanting to become more like a Brany and not like Barbie.

So I am a father of daughters. I have five daughters and one boy, and my oldest sister twelve, and my next one is ten. My ten year old and my twelve year old watched this early and my ten year old said, this is my favorite movie of all time. And she's planning right now her girl night with her friends to go see Kabrini and to be able to have ten year olds watching Mother Kabrini's example in this film and wanting to model their lives after somebody like her. This is girl Dad approved movie.

This is something that I want to say that is very, very very powerful for all of us, and we are very grateful to the filmmakers, especially independent filmmaking. You know, you always go against the current, against establishment, against everything right. I'm used to like working films where takes years for us to put the movie out in theaters. So in Bella it took us like five years Little Boy five years, Son of Freedom eight years.

I imagine all the patients and all this.

But because of the success of Son of Freedom, because of the support of Angel Studios, this is the first film Cabrini that we finished the film just last December, and I can believe that now we're in theaters like three months later after we finished the film.

Now things are going to be I'm not saying that easy, but less difficult.

We don't have to wait for years to put movies out there because the success of Son of Freedom now open the doors for us to finish the film on time and then put the movie in theeters on time.

Because now we have.

A partner that we didn't have before, which is Angel Studios. You know, we compliment each other in a way that is just godlee and divine.

I'm curious, Jeff, what was it about Mother Cabrini. San Cabrini and she became the most affected your.

Daughters, one of my daughters. She was asked. She was at the premier of Cabrini in New York and one of the press people asked her, what if there's a woman in her life that's like Cabrini. And she actually pointed to her younger sister. And so, my younger sister reminds me of Kabrini. And that's the one that said's her favorite movie. It's the ten year old that says is my favorite movie. I think it's resonating because Cabrini had been given two to five years to live, and she built an empire the size of Rockefellers or Vanderbilt. And she's this little, tiny Italian immigrant who speaks broken English, and she storms into the Senate. She stands up to the Pope. She takes on pimps, she takes on the mayor of New York who's trying to shut down her orphanages. And no matter how small you are, you can change the world. It doesn't matter how small you are. If you put your mind to it and unite with God, you can change the world.

Well as you all are change in the world. I was really impressed on Rotten Tomatoes. You've got an eighty nine out of one hundred for a religious film about a saint in the nineteenth century, to get that kind of raining.

But more important the credits.

You know, we make movies for the people, and that's what matters at the end of the day, you know, is what people think, you know, because they're the audience.

You know that we care.

You know, we do movies that are movements, movie to movement, and Cabrini is going to be definitely a movement that started when she came to Manhattan, and the movement hasn't stopped. The movement is going to keep growing, you know, the movement of leading by example, the movement of using your talents to make this for better place, the movement of you know, helping children, helping those who are the most vulnerable. Just like Sonal Freedom, you know, it was all about helping children and saving children. Mother Cabrina was doing the same thing. And not only that, Mother Cabrinain inspired Mother Teresa to become who she became Mother Teressa was teaching in this private school in India and she knew that something was missing, and when she started reading about Mother Cabrinney, that's when she decided to start her own order. And so somehow Mother Cabrina inspired Mother Teresa another saint. And you know, the beauty of this film too, is Alejandro didn't do a religious movie.

You forget that.

You're watching a movie about a Catholic saint, you know, which happens to be the patron of the American immigrants and the first American CANi saint. But you forget about that because we focus on her humanity and we focus on all the things that she beat that no matter what you believe, you're going to relate to a woman that used her talents to serve others and that religion that TransPasses everything. You know, it's a universal language.

Screened this with thousands of people, thousands of ordinary people before this came out, and the most common thing we hear is one of the best movies I've ever seen. Glenn Beck recently just said it was like watching The Godfather for the first time. That's how good of a movie this is. It is so powerful.

That's a pretty remarkable tribute.

Oh yeah, yes, but it is that good people are going to hear it this weekend when the first million people come out of the theaters. People are going to hear from their friends. That's one of the best movies I've ever seen. That's a top three movie for me. That's a top five movie for me. You're going to hear it everywhere. I can be confident in that because we've screened it so much.

Yeah, And the way how Alehndle directed the movie in a very sobradic method artistically way of asking questions, you know, to the audience, and the movie provokes reflections, you know, I in bate you to reflect to a meditation, you know. And I hope the people will ask themselves, you know, what am I doing with my life? You know, kind of a legacy I want to leave behind my life? How am I using my talents? What do I want to gain in my life?

And why?

This film will definitely will question all that, And I think it's very important to ask ourselves, you know, am I saying the truth or not? Am I building or am I destroying? Am I turning the light on or off? What am I doing with my life, you know, so Mother Cabrille will question in a way that is very effective. I hope you know the audience and the movie. The movie begins when the movie finished, because now I want you to carry the legacy of Mother ca Bret in your own life when you leave the theater.

And the fact that she founded the Missionary Sisters in the Sacred Heart of Jesus there now, I think in sixteen different countries are on all six of the occupied comments. We think of her as an American saint, but she had a worldwide impact.

Exactly more than sixty hospitals, orphanitures, school, I mean everything. She was amazing because she was not focusing on herself. She was asking that this helped me to help. You know, there's and she never give up. You know, now knew. There's men and women that I see and they're depressed. I want to ask them why. Well, I didn't get a lot of lights on my social media in my last post.

What are you talking about? You know?

And literally the whole wark comes into their shoulders because of stupid little things said.

You need to see Cabrini. You don't see what these women went through. And she never gave up.

Plus, they're gonna love the movie. They're gonna love them movie, right, They're just gonna absolutely love the storytelling. But you come out of it changed that you're inspired to be a better person.

And never to give up, never to give up.

You know, I didn't realize that she'd almost drowned as a child, and she was terrified of water, but she overcame that fear to my twenty three transatlantic trip. So sometimes when people worry about whatever's currently worrying them, she's a remarkable case study of courage, commitment, and faith. But I have to ask you one of them. With the film, you have a remarkable cast, which I think is a sign of the growing acceptance of how important your work is. I think in that sense, people are going to be really impressed just with the people who are now starring in your film.

You know, I have to give a credit to Alejandro. He's a master on discovering talent. You know, there's so many actresses who wanted to become Mother Cabrini.

You know, first of all, she needed to be by lingual because the.

First few minutes of the movie she's in Italy, so she's speaking Italian. But then when they moved to America. You know, there's one scene where she says, we're in America. We speak English now, you know, even though in real life Mother Cabrini was speaking with the broken English, the actress speaks perfect English, you know, so she was faking it.

She was acting, of course, like if she didn't know English very well.

But Alejandro discovered this amazing Italian actress who literally you forget that you are watching Mother Cabrini. The cast as you said, you know, Alejandri's very good in every movie, in Bella, in Little Boy, in Sound of Freedom.

He's like a casting director. He's a multitask.

He's a writer, he's a director, he's an actor, he's a producer, and he's a casting director as well. Even though we hire an amazing casting director, he's very good in discovering and hiring the right actor for the right roles. And Christiana did an amazing job as Mother Cabrini. And you know, she should win every single award because her performance was unbelievable.

The critics are saying that. The critics are saying, it's an Oscar worthy performance, It's an Oscar caliber film. Whether or not that happens. I thought Sound of Freedom had some actors that deserves some nominations, but I'm not the one who nominates them.

So we need to start the Angel Awards.

You know, I should point out to our listeners so that they can go to Angel dot com, slash Cabrini and by Tech is now available.

It's in theaters right now and it is selling out all over the place. Hard to get tickets to certain showings, but you can go to Angel dot com, slash Cabrini and get those tickets.

That's great. Well, Jeff and Edward, I want to thank you for the commitment you've made both to change the film business and to bring stories to life that are inspirational and that really help move the country to a much healthier culture and a much healthier future. And these are often stories that would never have gotten through the traditional Hollywood studio processing. And not only do I wish you what is already clearly going to be a successful opening weekend at the box office, but I also have to say I'm looking forward to a future interview on your next project because I know you're going to continue to do great work. Thank you both for taking this kind of.

Time well near the worlds together, Armano, Thank you so much for the incredible work that you do, and thank you for your support.

And again, together with Stronger and together.

With the help of God, and now with the intercession of other cabrin I'm sure great things will happen in the world.

Thank you newt for having us on. We appreciate having a chance to tell the story of such an incredible woman, and it matters so much for me, as a father of daughters, to be able to get the word out about this film.

Thank you to my guests Jeff Harmon and Edward Overestigate. You can watch the Cabrini movie trailer and get a link to buy tickets on our show page at newtsworld dot com. Newtsworld is produced by gingwickh three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Guernsey Sloan. Our researcher is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for the show was created by Steve Penley. Special thanks to them of Gingwick three sixty. If you've been enjoying Newtsworld, I hope you'll go to Apple Podcasts and both rate us with five stars and give us a review so others can learn what it's all about. Right now, listeners of news World can sign up for my three free weekly columns at gingrishtree sixty dot com slash newsletter. I'm NEWT Gingriish. This is Nutsworld

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