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Oho, My beautiful beanies and welcome to the bean for Thursday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we are looking back at Wednesday and boy boy is there a lot of talk about school lunches. Ah. There was also talk about the Conwealth Games. These are all things that I feel like we're just talking, talking, talking, talk and talk about. And of course we also had to talk about the Wellington Council. They've been naughty and so now they can't be left alone.

Oho, My beautiful beanies and welcome to the bean for Thursday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we are looking back at Wednesday and boy boy is there a lot of talk about school lunches. Ah. There was also talk about the Conwealth Games. These are all things that I feel like we're just talking, talking, talking, talk and talk about. And of course we also had to talk about the Wellington Council. They've been naughty and so now they can't be left alone.

So you bring in these people from the council staff and say this is what we recommend, and then what happens? How does it all go so pear shaped? If it was just the council poodling along and muddling along and there's a lot of money on it, I wonder where we'll find that from. Then I could understand the need for an observer to come in and go children, children bang heads together and see what happens. But there are all these people up and down the country working for counsel and i'd really love to hear from you. What happens as your advice just simply ignored. Is it not your responsibility to come up with a budget. Surely counselors would come to you for advice. If I was elected to counsel, I'd say, what do you recommend we do? First? How much money have we got to do all of these jobs? Where can we get money from without necessarily pinging the ratepayers? And I would assume that people who've been working for counsel for ten years would have some answers. You know, I have a dog and bark yourself. You've got a chief executive? Why do you have an observer? What's the chief executive doing? I'm just interested because otherwise the whole concept of local democracy is flawed. If we can't manage to manage ourselves, then just appoint a highly trained CEO and let them get on with it.

So you bring in these people from the council staff and say this is what we recommend, and then what happens? How does it all go so pear shaped? If it was just the council poodling along and muddling along and there's a lot of money on it, I wonder where we'll find that from. Then I could understand the need for an observer to come in and go children, children bang heads together and see what happens. But there are all these people up and down the country working for counsel and i'd really love to hear from you. What happens as your advice just simply ignored. Is it not your responsibility to come up with a budget. Surely counselors would come to you for advice. If I was elected to counsel, I'd say, what do you recommend we do? First? How much money have we got to do all of these jobs? Where can we get money from without necessarily pinging the ratepayers? And I would assume that people who've been working for counsel for ten years would have some answers. You know, I have a dog and bark yourself. You've got a chief executive? Why do you have an observer? What's the chief executive doing? I'm just interested because otherwise the whole concept of local democracy is flawed. If we can't manage to manage ourselves, then just appoint a highly trained CEO and let them get on with it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think we're sort of done with democracy now, aren't we. I think we've pretty family established how florid it is. And you know, if we're going to live in a capitalist society, and you know you've got to make a profit, and you know, you just want people who know how to run the business, don't you. It's pretty black.

I think we're sort of done with democracy now, aren't we. I think we've pretty family established how florid it is. And you know, if we're going to live in a capitalist society, and you know you've got to make a profit, and you know, you just want people who know how to run the business, don't you. It's pretty black.

And white news talk has it been.

And white news talk has it been.

Kind of thing. That's what David Seymour was trying to do with the school lunches. It's just trying to, you know, make a difference on the bottom line. Right, I'll tell you what.

Kind of thing. That's what David Seymour was trying to do with the school lunches. It's just trying to, you know, make a difference on the bottom line. Right, I'll tell you what.

It's more nutritious than nothing at all, an empty stomach. Some said the food was too processed, it was one size fits all. It wouldn't appeal to the kids. It's not meant to appeal to kids so much as feed them when they're hungry. I thought, at least I thought that was the point. And if they don't eat it, they're not hungry. It's simple. Now, there are some bold claims being made by David Seymour which I am a little skeptical of, like the fact that we can do this for three dollars a meal. Sounds unheard of, But he gets the benefit of the doubt and my good luck for his cost saving crusade. Guess where some of the savings are going feeding ten thousand poor two to five year olds. David Seymour is the new Robin Hood. In all the flurry of releases yesterday about this, there was one staggering number that stood out to me. Seymour reckons if Labor had adopted his model from the get go, when they launched this program five years ago, we would have saved eight hundred million dollars eight hundred million. They could have had that bike bridge over the White to Matar Harbor, or they could have had more rat tests or whatever the hell they wanted. It's true there was no such thing as a free lunch, but thank the Lord, is at least now a cheaper menu.

It's more nutritious than nothing at all, an empty stomach. Some said the food was too processed, it was one size fits all. It wouldn't appeal to the kids. It's not meant to appeal to kids so much as feed them when they're hungry. I thought, at least I thought that was the point. And if they don't eat it, they're not hungry. It's simple. Now, there are some bold claims being made by David Seymour which I am a little skeptical of, like the fact that we can do this for three dollars a meal. Sounds unheard of, But he gets the benefit of the doubt and my good luck for his cost saving crusade. Guess where some of the savings are going feeding ten thousand poor two to five year olds. David Seymour is the new Robin Hood. In all the flurry of releases yesterday about this, there was one staggering number that stood out to me. Seymour reckons if Labor had adopted his model from the get go, when they launched this program five years ago, we would have saved eight hundred million dollars eight hundred million. They could have had that bike bridge over the White to Matar Harbor, or they could have had more rat tests or whatever the hell they wanted. It's true there was no such thing as a free lunch, but thank the Lord, is at least now a cheaper menu.

Does anybody talk to the kids? I presume they have. I presume that was probably what was on the TV news, was it? I watched the TV news. Of course, it doesn't seem to be very good anymore. I've got a bit of things to do, like make and eat dinner. But uh, you know, the kids who are actually getting it, they you know, they have strong opinions about it. Or is it just a lot of people they never had to worry about whither they had lunch and they were at school.

Does anybody talk to the kids? I presume they have. I presume that was probably what was on the TV news, was it? I watched the TV news. Of course, it doesn't seem to be very good anymore. I've got a bit of things to do, like make and eat dinner. But uh, you know, the kids who are actually getting it, they you know, they have strong opinions about it. Or is it just a lot of people they never had to worry about whither they had lunch and they were at school.

Bringing their hands over this US talk Sidney man.

Bringing their hands over this US talk Sidney man.

It was a talker. Everybody was talking about it yesterday.

It was a talker. Everybody was talking about it yesterday.

Boy boy, this will come as a surprise to some of you. Oh it might have become as a surprise to me. I think that act or David Seymour might have got it kind of right with the school lunches. Yeah, I think that might work because school lunch has been around for three or four years now and it's been a complicated process with providers and people been happy with with the meals and meals that children are eat and YadA, yadia. So that seems to be a good process they have gone through with the provider they have found not everywhere there with some people doing meaningful work and good community programs. They could be kind of charities and stuff like that providing meals, but certainly around the country in some of the places it's been hard to get the right providers to provide the meals. And I'm talking about the bottom of the countries. That seems to be a good thing and it looks like the meals that the kids would like to eat, and of course over time they could develop on that and they could make them in fact, perhaps one that are slightly more nutritious. But yeah, I think it's an interesting messaging of that scheme. So there we go with that one, that's the school meals.

Boy boy, this will come as a surprise to some of you. Oh it might have become as a surprise to me. I think that act or David Seymour might have got it kind of right with the school lunches. Yeah, I think that might work because school lunch has been around for three or four years now and it's been a complicated process with providers and people been happy with with the meals and meals that children are eat and YadA, yadia. So that seems to be a good process they have gone through with the provider they have found not everywhere there with some people doing meaningful work and good community programs. They could be kind of charities and stuff like that providing meals, but certainly around the country in some of the places it's been hard to get the right providers to provide the meals. And I'm talking about the bottom of the countries. That seems to be a good thing and it looks like the meals that the kids would like to eat, and of course over time they could develop on that and they could make them in fact, perhaps one that are slightly more nutritious. But yeah, I think it's an interesting messaging of that scheme. So there we go with that one, that's the school meals.

Well, why is it surprising that Marcus thinks that Seymour has done a good job with the school lunches. Is he not normally a Seymour fan. I wasn't aware of this, and I think that is the problem probably with this issue. Isn't it that people think that just because they're not in to act the Act Party generally, that they've got to be against the school lunch thing. And I think this is the I think to a certain degree, David Seymour does paint himself into a corner on some issues. He has some really good ideas and then he has some why out there pretty far right we're not far right, but conservative ideas as well. Should give that, shouldn't You're more left deliberal people can't get behind. And then of course the left deliberal people feel like they've just got to disagree with everything he does as a result of that, and then it's.

Well, why is it surprising that Marcus thinks that Seymour has done a good job with the school lunches. Is he not normally a Seymour fan. I wasn't aware of this, and I think that is the problem probably with this issue. Isn't it that people think that just because they're not in to act the Act Party generally, that they've got to be against the school lunch thing. And I think this is the I think to a certain degree, David Seymour does paint himself into a corner on some issues. He has some really good ideas and then he has some why out there pretty far right we're not far right, but conservative ideas as well. Should give that, shouldn't You're more left deliberal people can't get behind. And then of course the left deliberal people feel like they've just got to disagree with everything he does as a result of that, and then it's.

Great gets complicated you still sept Is.

Great gets complicated you still sept Is.

It complicated for Heather or not? Really?

It complicated for Heather or not? Really?

I'm sure that a government contract like this one would have dragged a lot of businesses through what has been a very very tough economic downturn which we're still in and without the money, I'm sure it's going to be very very hard to make ends meet, and I obviously would rather that the money was being spent with New Zealand businesses than on a global giant like the Compass Group. But center mentality like that can not drive government spending decisions. We cannot pay an average of nine dollars a meal simply because it creates jobs and helps Kiwi businesses out, not when it is possible to feed kids for a third of the price at three dollars a meal. I mean, that's the kind of make work mentality that ended up with this country blowing huge amounts of money on a public's massive public sector workforce back in the eighties that was around about twice what it should have been because we were making jobs for people, keeping people employed. Anyone cutting their budget, any business cutting their budget is brutal, but especially when we're talking about a government cutting budgets back and cutting budgets back this big. But it needs to happen. I do not want to pay more tax than I need to just to subsidize Peter Pits businesses.

I'm sure that a government contract like this one would have dragged a lot of businesses through what has been a very very tough economic downturn which we're still in and without the money, I'm sure it's going to be very very hard to make ends meet, and I obviously would rather that the money was being spent with New Zealand businesses than on a global giant like the Compass Group. But center mentality like that can not drive government spending decisions. We cannot pay an average of nine dollars a meal simply because it creates jobs and helps Kiwi businesses out, not when it is possible to feed kids for a third of the price at three dollars a meal. I mean, that's the kind of make work mentality that ended up with this country blowing huge amounts of money on a public's massive public sector workforce back in the eighties that was around about twice what it should have been because we were making jobs for people, keeping people employed. Anyone cutting their budget, any business cutting their budget is brutal, but especially when we're talking about a government cutting budgets back and cutting budgets back this big. But it needs to happen. I do not want to pay more tax than I need to just to subsidize Peter Pits businesses.

Now.

Now.

Actually, what David Seymour has managed to do here deserves a huge amount of praise, not the criticism that he's coppying at the moment. He has managed to save one hundred and thirty million dollars a year and deliver the same service. Basically, that's impressive, right, Feeding kids for three dollars a meal is impressive. Now, obviously the proof of the pudding is going to be in the eating. I mean, it's one thing to serve up a few lunches at Parliament on a Tuesday. It's quite another to sustain that across thousands of lunches for months on end and still make sure that the kids a getting pulled that are satisfactory and quality that's satisfactory. And there are clearly critics who are just waiting for something to go wrong so they could say, look, David Seaboard did the wrong thing right, so he's absolutely got his work cut out for him. But so far, I all think we ought to be grateful that he's managed to do something that politicians very rarely managed to do, which is to maintain a service while saving money.

Actually, what David Seymour has managed to do here deserves a huge amount of praise, not the criticism that he's coppying at the moment. He has managed to save one hundred and thirty million dollars a year and deliver the same service. Basically, that's impressive, right, Feeding kids for three dollars a meal is impressive. Now, obviously the proof of the pudding is going to be in the eating. I mean, it's one thing to serve up a few lunches at Parliament on a Tuesday. It's quite another to sustain that across thousands of lunches for months on end and still make sure that the kids a getting pulled that are satisfactory and quality that's satisfactory. And there are clearly critics who are just waiting for something to go wrong so they could say, look, David Seaboard did the wrong thing right, so he's absolutely got his work cut out for him. But so far, I all think we ought to be grateful that he's managed to do something that politicians very rarely managed to do, which is to maintain a service while saving money.

It's interesting that thing about you know, the suppliers missing out since they were too expensive or whatever. Isn't it a butterfly flapt It swings and a kid gets its lunch as they say news talk.

It's interesting that thing about you know, the suppliers missing out since they were too expensive or whatever. Isn't it a butterfly flapt It swings and a kid gets its lunch as they say news talk.

Has it been.

Has it been.

Right, Let's finish out Trump Chance still talking about the common Rold James and I thought we weren't having them anymore.

Right, Let's finish out Trump Chance still talking about the common Rold James and I thought we weren't having them anymore.

You know, it's been stripped right back when it's going to be hosted in Edinburgh. This was after the State of Victoria's said it was too expensive, we can't do it. Originally they budgeted two point six billion, then it blew out to an estimated seven billion, so they said, no, we can't do it. Scotland has come to the table. But I say it's been good. It's been nice. Thanks for the memories, but probably time for the commonwealths to just go away at this point. Matt, you disagree wholeheartedly with that.

You know, it's been stripped right back when it's going to be hosted in Edinburgh. This was after the State of Victoria's said it was too expensive, we can't do it. Originally they budgeted two point six billion, then it blew out to an estimated seven billion, so they said, no, we can't do it. Scotland has come to the table. But I say it's been good. It's been nice. Thanks for the memories, but probably time for the commonwealths to just go away at this point. Matt, you disagree wholeheartedly with that.

I think it's a fantastic time the Commonwealth Games and it's an opportunity for athletes to showcase themselves. In this text here you said it's just a budget Commonwealth Game. I said, the poor, poor cousin a budget so Olympics. Yeah, poor cousin Olympics. As this Texas says here should be not compete in the Blue Dolow Cup because it's just a budget Rugby World Cup. I mean you can have levels of competition. That doesn't mean just because they're not the pinnacle, you don't do them. The Olympics is always going to be the glamor event, but there's a lot of glamor to be had in the Comwealth Games, a lot of great memories and I think it's a fantastic thing. It will be an absolute tragedy if the world lost it.

I think it's a fantastic time the Commonwealth Games and it's an opportunity for athletes to showcase themselves. In this text here you said it's just a budget Commonwealth Game. I said, the poor, poor cousin a budget so Olympics. Yeah, poor cousin Olympics. As this Texas says here should be not compete in the Blue Dolow Cup because it's just a budget Rugby World Cup. I mean you can have levels of competition. That doesn't mean just because they're not the pinnacle, you don't do them. The Olympics is always going to be the glamor event, but there's a lot of glamor to be had in the Comwealth Games, a lot of great memories and I think it's a fantastic thing. It will be an absolute tragedy if the world lost it.

I think tragedy is going a little bit far. And I don't think we should have less bit as low Cup.

I think tragedy is going a little bit far. And I don't think we should have less bit as low Cup.

We should go back to.

We should go back to.

Having three games. This whole thing about you know, we get to keep it forever because they've got to win both games. It doesn't seem very fair. We don't get me wrong. I don't want Australia do I ever win it ever again. But at the moment they're not going to because they're never going to win two games, are they? Poor old Australia. Jez. I never thought i'd say poor old Australia. It feels weird in my mouth. Just forget I said anything, actually, And we'll finish the podcast and yeah, we'll just carry on and I listen happen.

Having three games. This whole thing about you know, we get to keep it forever because they've got to win both games. It doesn't seem very fair. We don't get me wrong. I don't want Australia do I ever win it ever again. But at the moment they're not going to because they're never going to win two games, are they? Poor old Australia. Jez. I never thought i'd say poor old Australia. It feels weird in my mouth. Just forget I said anything, actually, And we'll finish the podcast and yeah, we'll just carry on and I listen happen.

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