06/12/25: Joel Heitkamp is joined by David French to have a conversation about the protests in L.A. and how President Trump has been responding to them. David is an Opinion columnist for The New York Times, where I write about law, culture, religion, and armed conflict.

His most recent book, “Divided We Fall: America’s Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation,” outlined the dangers of polarization and the need to engage with people who have opposing viewpoints. 

You can read more about David and view his recent columns online. 

(Joel Heitkamp is a talk show host on the Mighty 790 KFGO in Fargo-Moorhead. His award-winning program, “News & Views,” can be heard weekdays from 8 – 11 a.m. Follow Joel on X/Twitter @JoelKFGO.)