08/19/25: Joel Heitkamp is joined again by Dr. Kari Odermann for a conversation on President Trump's recent meetings with the Russian and Ukrainian Presidents. Dr. Odermann is a North Dakota native and fled Kyiv with her family prior to the attacks on the city. She has been a political commentator in Ukraine and covered President Zelensky when she was a news anchor.

(Joel Heitkamp is a talk show host on the Mighty 790 KFGO in Fargo-Moorhead. His award-winning program, “News & Views,” can be heard weekdays from 8 – 11 a.m. Follow Joel on X/Twitter @JoelKFGO.)