John's guest this week is John Nay. He is a guest from a previous show where they talked over Nay's life journey, including 36 years in the US Foreign Service. In this show they talk over the wide range of experiences of such a career. Also, he talks over the murder of the American Ambassador to Libya in Benghazi, and the seizure of the American embassy in Tehran, Iran, leading to 444 days as hostages before being released.