John's program this week is one done several years ago with Greg Marks, once Consensus All American defensive lineman for the University of Notre Dame football team. They talk over his roots in high school, university and professional football. The story of a young man for whom his mother took hard jobs to support his path to greatness, what is was like at a university, legendary for its identification as a football power. But also he tells poignant stories of his path, which ended as a lawyer.