Cari sits with sociologist and two-time New York Times bestselling author Dr. Ana Malaika Tubbs to talk about her books The Three Mothers and Erased, and why the stories of Black women, and especially Black mothers, keep getting left out on purpose. Tubbs shares how Alberta King, Bertice Baldwin, and Louise Little weren’t just “moms of” famous men; they were leaders themselves, and “all of them did what their sons later became famous for.” She explains patriarchy as a designed system, why propaganda makes people defensive about words like “patriarchy” and “feminism,” and offers practical ways to disrupt it: internal work, healthier relationships, community care, and voting. One line that sticks: “This system was not designed by you. It’s not for you. It’s hurting you, and it’s allowing you to hurt me.”

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