Before Dr. Scott Lyons became an expert on drama addiction, he was living it – weaponizing empathy, chasing crisis to feel alive, and mistaking stress for connection. 

Now a clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Scott joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger for a fearless and deeply personal conversation about chaos, trauma, and the hidden ways we keep ourselves stuck. 

Joined by his best friend of over 20 years, Nicole Asselin, Scott reflects on the childhood trauma, shame, thrill-seeking, and relational patterns that shaped his life – and how he ultimately broke free. 

Together they explore: 
The science behind addiction to stress (and how endorphins keep us hooked) 
Trauma bonding vs. drama bonding 
Why chaos can feel safer than peace 
How to build connection without crisis 
Turning thrill-seeking into growth instead of self-sabotage 

Note: This episode includes discussion of suicide and mental health. Viewer discretion advised. 

Don’t miss Part 2, airing Tuesday, March 17. Subscribe for conversations that challenge, heal, and inspire. 

Before&nbsp;Dr. Scott Lyons&nbsp;became an expert on drama addiction,&nbsp;he&nbsp;was living it&nbsp;&ndash; weaponizing&nbsp;empathy, chasing crisis to feel alive, and mistaking stress for connection.&nbsp;
Now a clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Scott joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger for a fearless and deeply personal conversation about chaos, trauma, and the hidden ways we keep ourselves stuck.&nbsp;
Joined by his best friend of over 20 years, Nicole Asselin, Scott reflects on the childhood trauma, shame, thrill-seeking, and relational patterns that shaped his life &ndash; and how he&nbsp;ultimately broke&nbsp;free.&nbsp;
Together they explore:&nbsp;
<ul>
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</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Trauma bonding vs. drama bonding&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Why chaos can feel safer than peace&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1">How to build connection without crisis&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1">Turning thrill-seeking into growth instead of self-sabotage&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
Note: This episode includes&nbsp;discussion&nbsp;of&nbsp;suicide and mental health. Viewer discretion advised.&nbsp;
Don&rsquo;t&nbsp;miss Part 2, airing Tuesday,&nbsp;March 17. Subscribe for conversations that challenge, heal, and inspire.&nbsp;

Step inside the lives of extraordinary individuals with My Legacy – the conversation redefining what it means to create a living legacy.  

Hosted by Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger, each episode uncovers the untold stories behind groundbreaking achievements and profound personal struggles — brought to life by those who lived them, and those who walked the journey alongside them. 

This isn’t just another celebrity interview. Each guest brings their “plus one” – a friend, family member, mentor, or trusted confidant who helped shape their path. Together, they offer an intimate window into the trials, triumphs, and truths that define a legacy. 

Join us every Tuesday for unforgettable conversations with remarkable guests like Gloria Steinem, Deepak Chopra, Mel Robbins, Billy Porter, Sarah Jakes Roberts, David Oyelowo, Sophia Bush, Jay Shetty, Martin Sheen, and many more. Then tune in Thursdays for bonus drops – powerful follow-ups, behind-the-scenes moments, and deeper reflections that take the conversation even further. 

Extraordinary lives. Inspiring lessons. This is My Legacy. 

Step inside the lives of extraordinary individuals with My Legacy &ndash; the conversation redefining what it means to create a living legacy.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Hosted by Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger, each episode uncovers the untold stories behind groundbreaking achievements and profound personal struggles &mdash; brought to life by those who lived them, and those who walked the journey alongside them.&nbsp;
This isn&rsquo;t just another celebrity interview. Each guest brings their &ldquo;plus one&rdquo; &ndash; a friend, family member, mentor, or trusted confidant who helped shape their path. Together, they offer an intimate window into the trials, triumphs, and truths that define a legacy.&nbsp;
Join us every Tuesday for unforgettable conversations with remarkable guests like Gloria Steinem, Deepak Chopra, Mel Robbins, Billy Porter, Sarah Jakes Roberts, David Oyelowo, Sophia Bush, Jay Shetty, Martin Sheen, and many more. Then tune in Thursdays for bonus drops &ndash; powerful follow-ups, behind-the-scenes moments, and deeper reflections that take the conversation even further.&nbsp;
Extraordinary lives. Inspiring lessons. This is My Legacy.&nbsp;

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Dr. Scott Lyons Plus One (Part 1): Why You’re Addicted to Chaos 

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Zarna Garg is one of the fastest-rising comedians in America. A sold-out touring headliner, streaming special comedy star, and breakout voice redefining what midlife success looks like, Zarna didn’t step onto a stand-up stage until she was 44. 

In this electric and deeply personal episode of My Legacy, Zarna joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to talk about losing her mother at 14, leaving home, immigrating to the U.S., and reinventing herself more than once. By her side is her plus one — her daughter Zoya — the person who dared her to try stand-up and helped turn her jokes into a viral, sold-out comedy career. 

Together, they share how: 
It’s never too late to reinvent yourself 
The life experience you think disqualifies you may be your greatest advantage 
Betting on yourself can change your family’s future 
Reinvention requires courage — not permission 
Your voice gets stronger with age 

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Zarna Garg is one of the fastest-rising comedians in America. A sold-out touring headliner, streaming&nbsp;special&nbsp;comedy star, and breakout voice redefining what midlife success looks like, Zarna&nbsp;didn&rsquo;t&nbsp;step onto a stand-up stage until she was 44.&nbsp;
In this electric and deeply personal episode of My Legacy, Zarna joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger&nbsp;to talk about losing her mother at 14, leaving home, immigrating to the U.S., and reinventing herself more than once. By her side is her plus one &mdash; her daughter Zoya &mdash; the person who dared her to try stand-up and helped turn her jokes into a viral, sold-out comedy career.&nbsp;
Together, they share how:&nbsp;
<ul>
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</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">The life experience you think disqualifies you may be your greatest advantage&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Betting on yourself can change your family&rsquo;s future&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1">Reinvention requires courage &mdash; not permission&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1">Your voice gets stronger with age&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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Zarna Garg Plus One: Reinvention has No Age Limit 

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Jurnee Smollett – Emmy-nominated actress known for Lovecraft Country, Friday Night Lights, The Great Debaters, and Apple TV+’s Smoke – has spent her life in front of the camera. But long before the accolades, she was a young girl raised in a home where art, activism, and self-reliance were daily lessons. 

In this deeply personal conversation, Jurnee sits down with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to reflect on the moments that nearly pulled her away from acting – and the calling that brought her back. Joined by her plus one, sister Jazz Smollett, she opens up about growing up in a house of creators, refusing roles that didn’t reflect her standards, navigating insecurity, and redefining strength after motherhood. 

Together, they share how: 
Failure can redirect you toward your true calling 
Refusing to conform can protect your purpose 
Strength is about discipline and willpower—not appearance 
Motherhood expands who you are—it doesn’t diminish you 
Art can heal both the artist and the audience 

Don’t miss an episode – subscribe now to catch new episodes every Tuesday. 

Jurnee Smollett &ndash; Emmy-nominated&nbsp;actress&nbsp;known for&nbsp;Lovecraft Country,&nbsp;Friday Night Lights,&nbsp;The Great Debaters, and Apple TV+&rsquo;s&nbsp;Smoke &ndash;&nbsp;has&nbsp;spent her life in front of the camera. But long before the accolades, she was a young girl raised in a home where art, activism, and self-reliance were daily lessons.&nbsp;
In this deeply personal conversation, Jurnee sits down with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to reflect on the moments that nearly pulled her away from acting &ndash; and the calling that brought her back. Joined by her plus one, sister Jazz Smollett, she&nbsp;opens up&nbsp;about growing up in a house of creators, refusing roles that&nbsp;didn&rsquo;t&nbsp;reflect her standards, navigating insecurity, and redefining strength after motherhood.&nbsp;
Together, they share how:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Failure can redirect you toward your true calling&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Refusing to conform can protect your purpose&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Strength is about discipline and willpower&mdash;not appearance&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1">Motherhood expands who you are&mdash;it&nbsp;doesn&rsquo;t&nbsp;diminish you&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1">Art can heal both the artist and the audience&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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Jurnee Smollett Plus One: Raised to Create, Refusing to Settle

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Originally aired December 16, 2025 

As the world comes together to celebrate the Olympic Games, we’re re-airing this powerful conversation to honor Brittney Griner’s legacy as a three-time Olympic gold medalist and the deeper meaning of resilience, courage, and representation on the global stage.  

Three-time Olympic gold medalist and WNBA champion, Brittney Griner joins My Legacy podcast for her first full-length interview alongside her wife, attorney and activist Cherelle Griner. 

In this deeply personal episode, they sit down with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to share what it really took to survive nearly 300 days of wrongful detainment in Russia – and the love, strategy, and community that brought Brittney home. 

Together, they share how: 
You can’t play by the rules if the system is broken 
Advocacy means knowing when—and where—to be loud 
Grief doesn’t wait for the crisis to end 
Love means telling the truth, even when it hurts 
Legacy is built in small, pressure-filled choices 

Don’t miss an episode—subscribe now to catch new episodes every Tuesday. 

Originally aired&nbsp;December 16, 2025&nbsp;
As the world comes together to celebrate the Olympic Games,&nbsp;we&rsquo;re&nbsp;re-airing this powerful conversation to honor Brittney Griner&rsquo;s legacy as a three-time Olympic gold medalist and the deeper meaning of resilience, courage, and representation on the global stage.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Three-time Olympic gold medalist and WNBA champion, Brittney Griner joins My Legacy podcast for her first full-length interview alongside her wife,&nbsp;attorney&nbsp;and activist Cherelle Griner.&nbsp;
In this deeply personal episode, they sit down with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to share what it really took to survive&nbsp;nearly&nbsp;300&nbsp;days&nbsp;of wrongful detainment in Russia&nbsp;&ndash; and&nbsp;the love, strategy, and community that brought Brittney home.&nbsp;
Together, they share how:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">You&nbsp;can&rsquo;t&nbsp;play by the rules if the system is broken&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Advocacy means knowing when&mdash;and where&mdash;to be loud&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Grief&nbsp;doesn&rsquo;t&nbsp;wait for the crisis to end&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1">Love means telling the truth, even when it hurts&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1">Legacy is built in small, pressure-filled choices&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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Brittney Griner Plus One: Writing a New Playbook 

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