Murray is back for 2025!  On this first episode for the year he's joined by former Black Fern, now World Rugby board member and TVNZ head of sports and entertainment, Melodie Robinson. Deaks and Melodie discuss the game of rugby, how to fix it, the future of free to air sports and also the joy of women's rugby.

Murray Deaker has been interviewing the biggest names in sport for 40 years. 'Murray Deaker’s Sporting Lives' will interview legends of sport, uncovering their stories. Full of memories, theories, and opinion. And no nonsense! 'Murray Deaker’s Sporting Lives' podcast brought to you by Gold Sport.