On this episode, Murray talks to former All Black captain, now chairman of the New Zealand Rugby board, David Kirk.  Deaks and David discuss the state of the game in New Zealand, his impressive CV and what it brings the role of chairman and also his thoughts on the way forward for rugby. He also gives an update on the hunt for a CEO and whether that person will be a kiwi.

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