This week Murray is joined by former All Blacks lock Ian Jones. Kamo and Deaks talk about the 1995 Rugby World Cup final, how McDonalds spared 5 players from the poisoning and they discuss what is so special about the All Blacks, South Africa rivalry.

'Murray Deaker’s Sporting Lives' will interview legends of sport, uncovering their stories. Murray Deaker has been interviewing the biggest names in sport for 40 years, and now he's back with a brand-new podcast. Full of memories, theories, and opinion. And no nonsense!

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