What's up friends.

What's up friends.

I'm Devin Simone and I am Davion Rogers and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast. We back again, y'all.

I'm Devin Simone and I am Davion Rogers and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast. We back again, y'all.

Yes, we are back again with another fabulous episode that had emotion in it, nail minding, It had some math and some dad moments as well. This particular episode is brought to you by Jenny's commentary to herself. I appreciate her ability to self soothe while hanging home cidbeer building, but yes, all of it very funny. So in case you won a quick recap, right, So, we had the Leap of Faith where they were tasked with jumping off the side of a building and grabbing an individual flag. You didn't want to grab multiple flags though, because then you'd get a penalty. The teams did really well overall. Era three to one. Era four lost, but they did a really great job.

Yes, we are back again with another fabulous episode that had emotion in it, nail minding, It had some math and some dad moments as well. This particular episode is brought to you by Jenny's commentary to herself. I appreciate her ability to self soothe while hanging home cidbeer building, but yes, all of it very funny. So in case you won a quick recap, right, So, we had the Leap of Faith where they were tasked with jumping off the side of a building and grabbing an individual flag. You didn't want to grab multiple flags though, because then you'd get a penalty. The teams did really well overall. Era three to one. Era four lost, but they did a really great job.

Yeah, no one was like I'm just not doing it. No one quit because everyone knew that they were like the team. It was important you weren't just doing it for yourself, like this is for the team, and so I thought that was really really good.

Yeah, no one was like I'm just not doing it. No one quit because everyone knew that they were like the team. It was important you weren't just doing it for yourself, like this is for the team, and so I thought that was really really good.

Well, you had to rely on them pulling you back up though.

Well, you had to rely on them pulling you back up though.

That's the see and then that's that right there is the most terrifying part of this entire operation. Did you see how long Josh was dangling? Yeah?

That's the see and then that's that right there is the most terrifying part of this entire operation. Did you see how long Josh was dangling? Yeah?

Yeah, I would have.

Yeah, I would have.

I would have been cussing everybody out, like I can.

I would have been cussing everybody out, like I can.

You imagine, because my guess is there are moments where you know they're pulling you up and then they kind of slip or they need to like reget you know, their strength or mojo to pull some more. So you're kind of like going up and then you dip down a little and then you go up and more like it's out.

You imagine, because my guess is there are moments where you know they're pulling you up and then they kind of slip or they need to like reget you know, their strength or mojo to pull some more. So you're kind of like going up and then you dip down a little and then you go up and more like it's out.

Yeah, that is out.

Yeah, that is out.

There's no way, and they were struggling, and ultimately I think that's what cost Era for yeah, trying to pull up Josh. Oh, geez, Louise. But I just want to go ahead and clap my hands for Era three and the way that they did that, like they were some little kids on the jungle gym.

There's no way, and they were struggling, and ultimately I think that's what cost Era for yeah, trying to pull up Josh. Oh, geez, Louise. But I just want to go ahead and clap my hands for Era three and the way that they did that, like they were some little kids on the jungle gym.

You know how Era three does shout out to Era three? My as so good they did our poor Era one, poor Era one girl.

You know how Era three does shout out to Era three? My as so good they did our poor Era one, poor Era one girl.

I don't even know what to say anymore, because there is a possibility because we don't know how this thing is going to play out, but there's a possibility that ever one can get wiped out.

I don't even know what to say anymore, because there is a possibility because we don't know how this thing is going to play out, but there's a possibility that ever one can get wiped out.

I don't know how Era one survives this with Derek's leg not at full strength, my and just having two people. And while I understand well, I feel like while Rachel was trying to save herself, she was making a really great point, like I get that Era two and three are close, but why are you keeping this super team so close in this game to have to fight them towards the end? That actually doesn't really make sense. And I feel like they could have tried to scape goat it. And this is where good politics comes in. They could have tried to play the we don't want to be mean card and been like, look, Era ones already, you know die. Basically, we just want to give them a break this one time. Like I feel like they could have hit ERA two with that or you know what I mean, and like gotten away with it a little bit. It doesn't seem smart to me that they're trying to stay so close to Air two, because even if you were to give Era want a break this week, you can always come back next week and go back after them, because they're probably not gonna win again, you know again, because they're at such a disadvantage. So what are your thoughts about a day No, I totally agree.

I don't know how Era one survives this with Derek's leg not at full strength, my and just having two people. And while I understand well, I feel like while Rachel was trying to save herself, she was making a really great point, like I get that Era two and three are close, but why are you keeping this super team so close in this game to have to fight them towards the end? That actually doesn't really make sense. And I feel like they could have tried to scape goat it. And this is where good politics comes in. They could have tried to play the we don't want to be mean card and been like, look, Era ones already, you know die. Basically, we just want to give them a break this one time. Like I feel like they could have hit ERA two with that or you know what I mean, and like gotten away with it a little bit. It doesn't seem smart to me that they're trying to stay so close to Air two, because even if you were to give Era want a break this week, you can always come back next week and go back after them, because they're probably not gonna win again, you know again, because they're at such a disadvantage. So what are your thoughts about a day No, I totally agree.

I Naya was talking to I believe it was I don't remember if it was Tina or Rachel, and she was like, the smartest thing is to naturally wipe you guys out, and.

I Naya was talking to I believe it was I don't remember if it was Tina or Rachel, and she was like, the smartest thing is to naturally wipe you guys out, and.

Oh yeah, it's like you guys are bleeding out already, so the smartest thing. But it's like, that's not the smart That's the smartest thing if it's a zombie apocalypse and you guys are on a canoe trying to start a new civilization. Sure, but it is. Or if you're on the Oregon Trail shout out to my old folks who know what that means. If you're playing that Oregon Trail game. But if you're not doing that, that's actually not smart because think about who do you think is gonna be easier to take out closer to the end, ye, and it's gonna be the weaker team automatically, So start weakening the team that's neck and neck and giving you the most struggle. Like cool, cool, your people on that team that are gonna save you, but not at the expense of themselves. And you have basically a full team competing against you. It just didn't seem smart. You know what.

Oh yeah, it's like you guys are bleeding out already, so the smartest thing. But it's like, that's not the smart That's the smartest thing if it's a zombie apocalypse and you guys are on a canoe trying to start a new civilization. Sure, but it is. Or if you're on the Oregon Trail shout out to my old folks who know what that means. If you're playing that Oregon Trail game. But if you're not doing that, that's actually not smart because think about who do you think is gonna be easier to take out closer to the end, ye, and it's gonna be the weaker team automatically, So start weakening the team that's neck and neck and giving you the most struggle. Like cool, cool, your people on that team that are gonna save you, but not at the expense of themselves. And you have basically a full team competing against you. It just didn't seem smart. You know what.

One can also say this, right, let's just say Derek Hills right, and that knee or the leg or whatever it is. It gets back to one hundred percent where it's supposed to be. You have just formed this megatron team of two. Because now you have Powerhouse Derek and Powerhouse Rachel. That's trouble, right, and they only have to focus on the two of them to work together.

One can also say this, right, let's just say Derek Hills right, and that knee or the leg or whatever it is. It gets back to one hundred percent where it's supposed to be. You have just formed this megatron team of two. Because now you have Powerhouse Derek and Powerhouse Rachel. That's trouble, right, and they only have to focus on the two of them to work together.

No extra people.

No extra people.

That's terrifying.

That's terrifying.

Air two and Ear three are gonna have to go against each other at some point. Anyway. I think it was a dumb move for what they did, and I think Naya kind of allowed Jordan. I could be wrong, but to like lead in that space and it's just really dumb politicking in my opinion. But that was just my opinion. It's just it's just as a you know.

Air two and Ear three are gonna have to go against each other at some point. Anyway. I think it was a dumb move for what they did, and I think Naya kind of allowed Jordan. I could be wrong, but to like lead in that space and it's just really dumb politicking in my opinion. But that was just my opinion. It's just it's just as a you know.

Okay, well then let's go and jump right on into it thee since we're here, let's hear who your era rankings are. Let's get into it.

Okay, well then let's go and jump right on into it thee since we're here, let's hear who your era rankings are. Let's get into it.

Okay. I'm going to have to give a participation trophy to Air four. Air four I just yeah, I don't know. I expected more from them in this challenge. They were struggle bussing. They just they didn't do anything for me. So they're going to get a participation trophy. I think the partition patient trophy should be made of like water or something. That's what For bronze, I am going to have to give it to Air two. I'm gonna give it to Air two because you know, they thought less this week sort of, which is a little great. But this whole, like Ryan Banana's thing that's brewing, is interesting, and yeah, it's gonna be messy, and I don't think it's gonna be good. My silver is going to go to Era three because they did that. They won, They did a really great job, but they're only getting silver instead of gold because I don't think they made the smartest move and who they threw in I really just don't think that was the way to go. And then Era one's gonna get my gold, because man are they some fighters like to be have your backup against the wall week after week after week. Not only is it hard from a physical point standpoint, plus they are older, and I know we joke about it, but let's just be honest. I know my knees don't do what they did ten years ago, so like there's that, but also it can be emotionally draining and demoralizing when you feel like your back is up against a wall the whole time. Like look at how we see people freak out in one episode. Look at how we saw Jinny freak out in one episode when she felt like they were coming after again. And it's not to discredit that, but like people freak out and they're holding the line very well. Plus we saw Darrell, you know, just all of it was beautiful. So they're gonna get my gold for this week. What about your air rankings?

Okay. I'm going to have to give a participation trophy to Air four. Air four I just yeah, I don't know. I expected more from them in this challenge. They were struggle bussing. They just they didn't do anything for me. So they're going to get a participation trophy. I think the partition patient trophy should be made of like water or something. That's what For bronze, I am going to have to give it to Air two. I'm gonna give it to Air two because you know, they thought less this week sort of, which is a little great. But this whole, like Ryan Banana's thing that's brewing, is interesting, and yeah, it's gonna be messy, and I don't think it's gonna be good. My silver is going to go to Era three because they did that. They won, They did a really great job, but they're only getting silver instead of gold because I don't think they made the smartest move and who they threw in I really just don't think that was the way to go. And then Era one's gonna get my gold, because man are they some fighters like to be have your backup against the wall week after week after week. Not only is it hard from a physical point standpoint, plus they are older, and I know we joke about it, but let's just be honest. I know my knees don't do what they did ten years ago, so like there's that, but also it can be emotionally draining and demoralizing when you feel like your back is up against a wall the whole time. Like look at how we see people freak out in one episode. Look at how we saw Jinny freak out in one episode when she felt like they were coming after again. And it's not to discredit that, but like people freak out and they're holding the line very well. Plus we saw Darrell, you know, just all of it was beautiful. So they're gonna get my gold for this week. What about your air rankings?

We are not in alignment this week, So for participation, I gave it to Era one because I mean, they were they they I mean, I'm proud. I'm very proud of Aviv and Darrell. I'm extremely proud of them. Like I'm sorry, not a Viv she's on ERA two. Extremely proud, but I am proud of her. But I'm extremely proud of Darrell. I appreciate that he did not tap out and he did it. He did it for his kids and he made it happen. Like I'm really really proud of him. But that is the extent of it. Bronze I'm gonna give I'm gonta give it to Era four. Shocker, right, you would think I would have my Era higher. I'm gonna give it to Era four just because I think I forgot who said it in the episode, but they were like, this is supposed to be like the weightlifting. They're always training, they're strong, they're this, they're that, what is going on? And I feel like in the one area where they had all of these muscles, that's where they lacked. And so because they did that puzzle very quickly, but it was just that pulling it up in any event, I gave them bronze. For silver, I gave it to Era two because I was so proud of a even because I felt like they they knocked that thing out pretty fast. In my opinion, I thought they knocked it out really fast. And then for goals, I'm gonna give it to Era three because again I felt like they were little kids playing at the park like it. They made that thing look like children on a jungle gym. They made it look so easy, so smooth, and they got the job done and I was just it was really cool watching them do it. So those were my Era rankings. How about your star and your time out?

We are not in alignment this week, So for participation, I gave it to Era one because I mean, they were they they I mean, I'm proud. I'm very proud of Aviv and Darrell. I'm extremely proud of them. Like I'm sorry, not a Viv she's on ERA two. Extremely proud, but I am proud of her. But I'm extremely proud of Darrell. I appreciate that he did not tap out and he did it. He did it for his kids and he made it happen. Like I'm really really proud of him. But that is the extent of it. Bronze I'm gonna give I'm gonta give it to Era four. Shocker, right, you would think I would have my Era higher. I'm gonna give it to Era four just because I think I forgot who said it in the episode, but they were like, this is supposed to be like the weightlifting. They're always training, they're strong, they're this, they're that, what is going on? And I feel like in the one area where they had all of these muscles, that's where they lacked. And so because they did that puzzle very quickly, but it was just that pulling it up in any event, I gave them bronze. For silver, I gave it to Era two because I was so proud of a even because I felt like they they knocked that thing out pretty fast. In my opinion, I thought they knocked it out really fast. And then for goals, I'm gonna give it to Era three because again I felt like they were little kids playing at the park like it. They made that thing look like children on a jungle gym. They made it look so easy, so smooth, and they got the job done and I was just it was really cool watching them do it. So those were my Era rankings. How about your star and your time out?

Okay, so I have some star nominations. Let me pull up my notes.

Okay, so I have some star nominations. Let me pull up my notes.

I love how you can have nominations, but I can't have pieces.

I love how you can have nominations, but I can't have pieces.

You can't know you can have nominations because the nominations are fair. You just wanted to hand out rations to everyone. You get a crumb, You get a crumb, You get a crumb. This is not that, all right. So my nominations for a gold Star. One of them is a Beeve because of the way that she, you know, at five feet she came in and she was on top. So proud of her. Another nomination goes to Derek for solving the puzzle so fast. I love it. And Bananas were talking about how even killed Derek's and we haven't gotten to see it as much this season. I mean, we got to see it with Devn's birthday party in the Stripper show that was happening in this episode, which I loved. But Derek is so fun, so I'm excited. I hope we get to see more of him. But I love that he saw that puzzle so fast, so he's nominated. Durrell was nominated for a gold Star in conquering his fear of heights and just watching that moment. And Michelle was nominated for a gold Star because the way she's been able to regulate her emotions this season has been beautiful to watch. Like we hear her processing, she's still even when she was stressed, She's like, I'm stressed right now, guys, when they were struggling to pull Josh up, Like I just I just appreciate. We can literally see her growth throughout the show and also hearing about how much the show means to her family. Oh my god, it's just such a beautiful moment. It was really beautiful. Those sure for that reason, I'm going to pull a Davon and I'm sitting my gold star in half and I'm giving half of it to Michelle and half of it to Darrell because of history people. Both of those were really beautiful. Who gets your gold Star?

You can't know you can have nominations because the nominations are fair. You just wanted to hand out rations to everyone. You get a crumb, You get a crumb, You get a crumb. This is not that, all right. So my nominations for a gold Star. One of them is a Beeve because of the way that she, you know, at five feet she came in and she was on top. So proud of her. Another nomination goes to Derek for solving the puzzle so fast. I love it. And Bananas were talking about how even killed Derek's and we haven't gotten to see it as much this season. I mean, we got to see it with Devn's birthday party in the Stripper show that was happening in this episode, which I loved. But Derek is so fun, so I'm excited. I hope we get to see more of him. But I love that he saw that puzzle so fast, so he's nominated. Durrell was nominated for a gold Star in conquering his fear of heights and just watching that moment. And Michelle was nominated for a gold Star because the way she's been able to regulate her emotions this season has been beautiful to watch. Like we hear her processing, she's still even when she was stressed, She's like, I'm stressed right now, guys, when they were struggling to pull Josh up, Like I just I just appreciate. We can literally see her growth throughout the show and also hearing about how much the show means to her family. Oh my god, it's just such a beautiful moment. It was really beautiful. Those sure for that reason, I'm going to pull a Davon and I'm sitting my gold star in half and I'm giving half of it to Michelle and half of it to Darrell because of history people. Both of those were really beautiful. Who gets your gold Star?

Okay, So I have nominations as well. So my nominations are going to go to for my gold star, Durrell and also Kylin. And then let me just go back and my explanation for my rankings for Era two when I slipped up and said Aviv I meant for her and Derek because they Yeah, Derek did really good in that puzzle too, so I just wanted to go back. But anyway, my stars are My nominations are for Darrell and Kylon. Darrell conquering that fear getting a job done and did it without hesitating, like my boy just went like he did that. And then Kyland for being a two time Drell beat her. That's not something a bad an eye at fair. That is not something that Darrell is like that dude in this challenge in the challenge world, right, and so that's not just something to just bad an eye at.

Okay, So I have nominations as well. So my nominations are going to go to for my gold star, Durrell and also Kylin. And then let me just go back and my explanation for my rankings for Era two when I slipped up and said Aviv I meant for her and Derek because they Yeah, Derek did really good in that puzzle too, so I just wanted to go back. But anyway, my stars are My nominations are for Darrell and Kylon. Darrell conquering that fear getting a job done and did it without hesitating, like my boy just went like he did that. And then Kyland for being a two time Drell beat her. That's not something a bad an eye at fair. That is not something that Darrell is like that dude in this challenge in the challenge world, right, and so that's not just something to just bad an eye at.

And so.

And so.

I'm gonna give my start to both of them, ladies.

I'm gonna give my start to both of them, ladies.

You know in history was not made because Davon does that every week.

You know in history was not made because Davon does that every week.

Give it to both of them. Now, I'm gonna give my time out also to Durrel.

Give it to both of them. Now, I'm gonna give my time out also to Durrel.

See and I was, now we're aligned. Now you're aliged because that's who mine is going to. Yes, let's hear it.

See and I was, now we're aligned. Now you're aliged because that's who mine is going to. Yes, let's hear it.

I'm gonna also give my time out to Darrel because and some people might argue with me, but it's okay. I'm just saying the look that I saw in his face, I think Darrell gave up.

I'm gonna also give my time out to Darrel because and some people might argue with me, but it's okay. I'm just saying the look that I saw in his face, I think Darrell gave up.

Here's why.

Here's why.

Here here's why. So there's this moment where he goes in and he's like, I know what the math is.

Here here's why. So there's this moment where he goes in and he's like, I know what the math is.

You know, I understand.

You know, I understand.

We get caught up in a moment. He knows the math, he's staying it in his head. And then he goes down. He starts cleaning a fan one. Why are you cleaning the sand? Why what are you doing that for? Right? I took that as stalling a little bit, because you could have just dug it, like what are we doing? And then there was this moment where the camera zooms in on him looking at Kylon like and it was one of those looks like can you hurry up and solve it so we can be done. That's how I interpret it. That's how I took it. I didn't take it as he was looking like, oh I got to hurry up because he's about to beat me. It was a look of like are you done? Like hurry up?

We get caught up in a moment. He knows the math, he's staying it in his head. And then he goes down. He starts cleaning a fan one. Why are you cleaning the sand? Why what are you doing that for? Right? I took that as stalling a little bit, because you could have just dug it, like what are we doing? And then there was this moment where the camera zooms in on him looking at Kylon like and it was one of those looks like can you hurry up and solve it so we can be done. That's how I interpret it. That's how I took it. I didn't take it as he was looking like, oh I got to hurry up because he's about to beat me. It was a look of like are you done? Like hurry up?

So close to like I don't I agree king Home on the time out. We are aligned on that, but I don't agree with you on the give up thing. My perspective, what I take is Darrell is funny, he is knowledgeable, he's talented, he is stubborn. As a mofo sometimes and also sometimes as we get older, we get set in our ways, and to me, what I was watching was so classic Dad, Like I feel like I could see I feel like I can just feel Darrell's energy being like, Okay, I'm gonna do this right. And I do think he got in his head hooker, I know what I feel like. I agree. I know I'm not saying it's smart. Was why he's getting the time out of the week, But it's like I could just feel that stubbornness of like, let me do it right, like you know how your parent, like how parents would tell their kids could take your time, make sure you check your like, I just feel like I felt that energy of him doing that where it was like droll if you just don't so.

So close to like I don't I agree king Home on the time out. We are aligned on that, but I don't agree with you on the give up thing. My perspective, what I take is Darrell is funny, he is knowledgeable, he's talented, he is stubborn. As a mofo sometimes and also sometimes as we get older, we get set in our ways, and to me, what I was watching was so classic Dad, Like I feel like I could see I feel like I can just feel Darrell's energy being like, Okay, I'm gonna do this right. And I do think he got in his head hooker, I know what I feel like. I agree. I know I'm not saying it's smart. Was why he's getting the time out of the week, But it's like I could just feel that stubbornness of like, let me do it right, like you know how your parent, like how parents would tell their kids could take your time, make sure you check your like, I just feel like I felt that energy of him doing that where it was like droll if you just don't so.

Like when Cadence is learning doing homework, yes, when Kadence is learning a cheer routine, yes, yes, when she playing basketball run take it to the hope. I don't have time for you to stand there and analyze and shoot the ball now, so no, but I get what you're saying. I also, can I add a category just with today, Yes, just because my emotions was all over the place watching this episode. I want to add a category of hugs, and I want to send hugs to Rachel and Derek. Yes, just because I feel like they are about to have a very hard, uphill battle about to girls, but no, like they're really like it's about to go down.

Like when Cadence is learning doing homework, yes, when Kadence is learning a cheer routine, yes, yes, when she playing basketball run take it to the hope. I don't have time for you to stand there and analyze and shoot the ball now, so no, but I get what you're saying. I also, can I add a category just with today, Yes, just because my emotions was all over the place watching this episode. I want to add a category of hugs, and I want to send hugs to Rachel and Derek. Yes, just because I feel like they are about to have a very hard, uphill battle about to girls, but no, like they're really like it's about to go down.

Yeah about down. You like this.

Yeah about down. You like this.

Category of hugs? Yeah, we should do that.

Category of hugs? Yeah, we should do that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I tweet us and let us know if you want us to do a category of hugs or Instagram.

Yeah, I tweet us and let us know if you want us to do a category of hugs or Instagram.

I like it. I agree.

I like it. I agree.

I think that I'm still hopeful, but I feel like this next challenge, whatever it is, has to be something that a two person team can win. I mean, although technically this was something a four person team could win, and our girl Tea, you know, kind of just drop the ball a little bit. It happens. It happens. But hopefully next week is something just to balance it out a little bit. Otherwise I don't see how Era one makes it beyond this. But they're not going out without a fight, and they're not going out without coming on this podcast. We have an amazing guest coming up for you. She's all the buzz on the internet. You see your pop on and pop off, As she likes to say on social media. She is that girl. We have Tina in the house coming up right after this.

I think that I'm still hopeful, but I feel like this next challenge, whatever it is, has to be something that a two person team can win. I mean, although technically this was something a four person team could win, and our girl Tea, you know, kind of just drop the ball a little bit. It happens. It happens. But hopefully next week is something just to balance it out a little bit. Otherwise I don't see how Era one makes it beyond this. But they're not going out without a fight, and they're not going out without coming on this podcast. We have an amazing guest coming up for you. She's all the buzz on the internet. You see your pop on and pop off, As she likes to say on social media. She is that girl. We have Tina in the house coming up right after this.

Hey, friends, I am super excited about this episode because we have none other than Auntie Tina in the building. Let's give it up one time for Auntie Tana.

Hey, friends, I am super excited about this episode because we have none other than Auntie Tina in the building. Let's give it up one time for Auntie Tana.

Yes, Auntie Tina's look needs a drink? Are you serving anything in this place?

Yes, Auntie Tina's look needs a drink? Are you serving anything in this place?

Yes? Girl, we got it. What you want?

Yes? Girl, we got it. What you want?

I need our cock.

I need our cock.

No, ill will take some bubbles because Tina, you paused that word at a really unfortunate time.

No, ill will take some bubbles because Tina, you paused that word at a really unfortunate time.

Unfortunate. Hey girl, Hey, okay, First of all, how does it feel there's so much buzz about u Tina right now online, not only for moments, but about how you are a hottie putati on the season. You are a girl, you do not age, you are beautiful, all the things that we know. But how does it feel to be back just recognized in your for your great greatness? Well?

Unfortunate. Hey girl, Hey, okay, First of all, how does it feel there's so much buzz about u Tina right now online, not only for moments, but about how you are a hottie putati on the season. You are a girl, you do not age, you are beautiful, all the things that we know. But how does it feel to be back just recognized in your for your great greatness? Well?

Uh, that sounds incredible.

Uh, that sounds incredible.

I guess it feels great to be able to do this twenty years later. And as much as I toss it out and uh and say I hate it, you know there's that fundamental love.

I guess it feels great to be able to do this twenty years later. And as much as I toss it out and uh and say I hate it, you know there's that fundamental love.

Man.

Man.

You get bit by that bug. You both you girls both know you get bit by that bug.

You get bit by that bug. You both you girls both know you get bit by that bug.

And something just turns on in you and and you just feel alive, and the challenge has brought a new breath of air to me, and I'm just grateful for that. I mean, that's how That's what I'm going off of. I feel like I'm almost like unborrowed time at this point.

And something just turns on in you and and you just feel alive, and the challenge has brought a new breath of air to me, and I'm just grateful for that. I mean, that's how That's what I'm going off of. I feel like I'm almost like unborrowed time at this point.

How so, what do you mean, because this is.

How so, what do you mean, because this is.

Just incredible, This is absolutely incredible. Yeah, I never thought that I would be doing the Okay one, doing any challenges, But I first started off on All Stars. I didn't expect to do any After All Stars two, yeah I was done. And then after every single one I go into these, I don't expect another one.

Just incredible, This is absolutely incredible. Yeah, I never thought that I would be doing the Okay one, doing any challenges, But I first started off on All Stars. I didn't expect to do any After All Stars two, yeah I was done. And then after every single one I go into these, I don't expect another one.

I just go balls to the wall, seriously.

I just go balls to the wall, seriously.

And that's why you keep getting called back.

And that's why you keep getting called back.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I think they just like to punish me. I think it's funny. It's seriously a sickness at this point.

I think they just like to punish me. I think it's funny. It's seriously a sickness at this point.

Well, let me say this, because there is a conversation, right, and not many of us are in this conversation. I'm in the conversation, Devin is in the conversation, Marie is in the conversation, and there are a couple of others, but they're not many of us. And you are in this conversation as well the comedic relief of the show.

Well, let me say this, because there is a conversation, right, and not many of us are in this conversation. I'm in the conversation, Devin is in the conversation, Marie is in the conversation, and there are a couple of others, but they're not many of us. And you are in this conversation as well the comedic relief of the show.

Okay, I was.

Okay, I was.

Like, what it is so necessary?

Like, what it is so necessary?

Oh, I know, it is so necessary.

Oh, I know, it is so necessary.

And I must say, throughout watching this season thus far, you have been really bringing it in the entertainment part of the episodes, Like I find myself really rooting for you every single episode like this was Tina's episode, this episode was Tina's episode two, Like, you've really been bringing the breath of fresh airs, and I really appreciate you for that because it's it's needed. It's so needed.

And I must say, throughout watching this season thus far, you have been really bringing it in the entertainment part of the episodes, Like I find myself really rooting for you every single episode like this was Tina's episode, this episode was Tina's episode two, Like, you've really been bringing the breath of fresh airs, and I really appreciate you for that because it's it's needed. It's so needed.

So it's needed.

So it's needed.

I think that a lot of negativity happens in the house, and I think that that because it gives them attention. So everybody's trying to out do each other with this, like uh being the villain.

I think that a lot of negativity happens in the house, and I think that that because it gives them attention. So everybody's trying to out do each other with this, like uh being the villain.

People are intentionally like trying to be the goal in the season.

People are intentionally like trying to be the goal in the season.

Yes, well, do you want me to close my eyes and turn around? I can pin the tail on the donkey on anybody?

Yes, well, do you want me to close my eyes and turn around? I can pin the tail on the donkey on anybody?

Okay, give me three, give me just three n eight Like off the top of.

Okay, give me three, give me just three n eight Like off the top of.

The puts it Jordan puts it too much. Devin puts it too much, but he just puts it too much.

The puts it Jordan puts it too much. Devin puts it too much, but he just puts it too much.

Those boys, Okay, you think they're trying to be villains specifically, No, that's.

Those boys, Okay, you think they're trying to be villains specifically, No, that's.

Them, huh.

Them, huh.

As long as you didn't name any women.

As long as you didn't name any women.

I noticed that. I cut that, I cut that.

I noticed that. I cut that, I cut that.

I'm not gonna name any girls.

I'm not gonna name any girls.

I like them the season of the Girls. That's interesting because I feel like watching it so far, they don't come off as villain's quite yet. Anything's possible, you feel things doing.

I like them the season of the Girls. That's interesting because I feel like watching it so far, they don't come off as villain's quite yet. Anything's possible, you feel things doing.

To be honestly with you, you get me on my period, and I could definitely become a villain very easily.

To be honestly with you, you get me on my period, and I could definitely become a villain very easily.

I am a multifaceted person.

I am a multifaceted person.

Yeah, you get me on a day where somebody stepped on my toe or I have like you know, I mean, just.

Yeah, you get me on a day where somebody stepped on my toe or I have like you know, I mean, just.

Anything, and I can come off like you know me, I wouldn't say mean.

Anything, and I can come off like you know me, I wouldn't say mean.

I can see you just like standing up for yourself. Because we've even seen it in this episode, and I believe Rachel called it Tina time. Yes, yeh, she called it Tina time. We got a little Tina time in this episode, girl, Yeah, you got a little time.

I can see you just like standing up for yourself. Because we've even seen it in this episode, and I believe Rachel called it Tina time. Yes, yeh, she called it Tina time. We got a little Tina time in this episode, girl, Yeah, you got a little time.

When Rachel was like, oh, she's on one. She's just going Rachel just the way, Rachel, just way she knows me.

When Rachel was like, oh, she's on one. She's just going Rachel just the way, Rachel, just way she knows me.

She's like she's gonna, yep, let her go.

She's like she's gonna, yep, let her go.

And speaking of her knowing you. You guys recently did a vacation together, Kara Aviv, Rachel, you tell us about that. How long were you guys together? What you guys do?

And speaking of her knowing you. You guys recently did a vacation together, Kara Aviv, Rachel, you tell us about that. How long were you guys together? What you guys do?

Okay, So Rachel wanted to throw a party like a Midway you know we had. I mean, everyone had such a great time and it was such a great cast. I was like, I do want to see some of these people again. So let's just extend the invitation to anybody and anybody who wants to join to just do aw watching party together. Man, just a private and a minute watching party.

Okay, So Rachel wanted to throw a party like a Midway you know we had. I mean, everyone had such a great time and it was such a great cast. I was like, I do want to see some of these people again. So let's just extend the invitation to anybody and anybody who wants to join to just do aw watching party together. Man, just a private and a minute watching party.

But then we saw on a boat, oh well, and a club.

But then we saw on a boat, oh well, and a club.

You know, we like, we like to.

You know, we like, we like to.

We like to spoil ourselves a little bit at this point in time in our lives. Okay, So that was a little off schedule thing that we decided to do, to just rent rent a boat and take the families out.

We like to spoil ourselves a little bit at this point in time in our lives. Okay, So that was a little off schedule thing that we decided to do, to just rent rent a boat and take the families out.

Then you know Whomember wants to join?

Then you know Whomember wants to join?

So is this a new alliance we should be keeping our eye out for in the future.

So is this a new alliance we should be keeping our eye out for in the future.

Okay? So this I love it.

Okay? So this I love it.

Every time I end on a boat, it seems like I form a new alliance because superbly on the All Stars four it was on the boat that I was talking with Carra, and that was an alliance that it was alleged. Uh, it was because she looked like Jack Sparrow, Okay, and I was entertained by it.

Every time I end on a boat, it seems like I form a new alliance because superbly on the All Stars four it was on the boat that I was talking with Carra, and that was an alliance that it was alleged. Uh, it was because she looked like Jack Sparrow, Okay, and I was entertained by it.

Okay, I know this time.

Okay, I know this time.

This time, I was entertained because I was on the Titanic and she was Jack. And I told her, I see those muscles. Don't let me go, or I will pull you down with me. You will, we will die together. So that's I mean, this is how I entertain myself.

This time, I was entertained because I was on the Titanic and she was Jack. And I told her, I see those muscles. Don't let me go, or I will pull you down with me. You will, we will die together. So that's I mean, this is how I entertain myself.

That wasn't a no for an alliance. By the way, the definitely was a lot of words and was not a no. Tino, what's your initial.

That wasn't a no for an alliance. By the way, the definitely was a lot of words and was not a no. Tino, what's your initial.

Condense it down? You guys got to condense it down. It's not simple. Do I like the girl?

Condense it down? You guys got to condense it down. It's not simple. Do I like the girl?

Yes?

Yes?

Will I ast her? Yeah? Yeah?

Will I ast her? Yeah? Yeah?

Well, alliance is eventually you everybody has to go against each other. But it means that coming in you kind of start on the same friend. Okay. So that's definitely like that.

Well, alliance is eventually you everybody has to go against each other. But it means that coming in you kind of start on the same friend. Okay. So that's definitely like that.

We have friends.

We have friends.

So call this the Titanic alliance now, like is that?

So call this the Titanic alliance now, like is that?

I mean different strokes are different folks.

I mean different strokes are different folks.

Ali Teina said they are the Titanic friends Titanic but I'm not saying that a word.

Ali Teina said they are the Titanic friends Titanic but I'm not saying that a word.

We are about the boat buddies. I don't know we're buddies? Is cute? You We could keep kicking around some names here.

We are about the boat buddies. I don't know we're buddies? Is cute? You We could keep kicking around some names here.

I like boat buddies. Okay, what was your initial reaction to watching this episode?

I like boat buddies. Okay, what was your initial reaction to watching this episode?

Oh god, this is a good luck guys. As much as I hate it for like, you know, the result, it was good.

Oh god, this is a good luck guys. As much as I hate it for like, you know, the result, it was good.

It's getting good because I mean, I like the games this one.

It's getting good because I mean, I like the games this one.

I like the eliminations.

I like the eliminations.

Man, I love the lottery of it all. Like you never know what's coming around the corner. You don't know what's going to be thrown at you. I enjoy the those kind of surprises and to see how I fare.

Man, I love the lottery of it all. Like you never know what's coming around the corner. You don't know what's going to be thrown at you. I enjoy the those kind of surprises and to see how I fare.

I don't.

I don't.

I don't look and compare myself to other people. I just try to do the best I can do.

I don't look and compare myself to other people. I just try to do the best I can do.

This is a really great season for that.

This is a really great season for that.

Well, you see a lot of other competitors how their motivation is just to beat a certain person or and I think that you can get your focuses. That's that's that shouldn't be your focus if you truly want a longevity.

Well, you see a lot of other competitors how their motivation is just to beat a certain person or and I think that you can get your focuses. That's that's that shouldn't be your focus if you truly want a longevity.

I feel like you're talking in code.

I feel like you're talking in code.

I always talk in code, and you have to try to decipher very much.

I always talk in code, and you have to try to decipher very much.

So how does the main show in your opinion, compared to All Stars.

So how does the main show in your opinion, compared to All Stars.

Oh that's a good question.

Oh that's a good question.

Day, Okay, I will say all the challenge forty is freaking pro level, man, that's pro level stuff. It was hard, it was difficult, but it was rewarding in ways.

Day, Okay, I will say all the challenge forty is freaking pro level, man, that's pro level stuff. It was hard, it was difficult, but it was rewarding in ways.

I think you played well on the main show though. You did really well.

I think you played well on the main show though. You did really well.

Yeah, girl, Yeah I did.

Yeah, girl, Yeah I did.

I dude, I lasted longer than I said.

I dude, I lasted longer than I said.

Yeah, I did.

Yeah, I did.

Yes, Tim the tool Man, Taylor Y.

Yes, Tim the tool Man, Taylor Y.

I was proud of myself.

I was proud of myself.

I was. I'm proud of myself on this one. I did way better than I thought I would.

I was. I'm proud of myself on this one. I did way better than I thought I would.

I want you to tell us about that elimination with those nails, and I know that's not this episode, but since you're here, we have to know, like, what what was the strategy? Did you go in the SAMs about to slice all this off the wall or what was it?

I want you to tell us about that elimination with those nails, and I know that's not this episode, but since you're here, we have to know, like, what what was the strategy? Did you go in the SAMs about to slice all this off the wall or what was it?

No?

No?

Because I knew that, Okay, So I need to know how far these nails are seated into the wall, right, So the very first one I go in there, classic way pulling out a nail.

Because I knew that, Okay, So I need to know how far these nails are seated into the wall, right, So the very first one I go in there, classic way pulling out a nail.

You pull out the first one.

You pull out the first one.

I saw how how seated it was, and I was like, that's pretty far in there. I'm gonna have to use the claw, my hammer let's see if I can ram these down. And I did it and it kind of worked, and I was like, oh, if I turned the hammer to the side and slam them out of the wall, it'll be this, It'll be the same thing. I kept the hammer close to the wall because the part nails will bend at the weakest point hanging out of the wall.

I saw how how seated it was, and I was like, that's pretty far in there. I'm gonna have to use the claw, my hammer let's see if I can ram these down. And I did it and it kind of worked, and I was like, oh, if I turned the hammer to the side and slam them out of the wall, it'll be this, It'll be the same thing. I kept the hammer close to the wall because the part nails will bend at the weakest point hanging out of the wall.

Right, the nail that's.

Right, the nail that's.

Inside of the wall is stabilized, So you need to keep that hammer or whatever closest to that point intersection of the plywood and the nail.

Inside of the wall is stabilized, So you need to keep that hammer or whatever closest to that point intersection of the plywood and the nail.

And that's where everybody else fell.

And that's where everybody else fell.

Too far on the d Yeah.

Too far on the d Yeah.

Watch them and you have to have enough force.

Watch them and you have to have enough force.

And when I went down, I went automatically the exact opposite direction because if they some of them bent and that means I needed to knock them out. So I went to the opposite direction that I went in. So I did this like up down up.

And when I went down, I went automatically the exact opposite direction because if they some of them bent and that means I needed to knock them out. So I went to the opposite direction that I went in. So I did this like up down up.

Sense that's good.

Sense that's good.

Yeah, it's just simple.

Yeah, it's just simple.

As everybody tried to copy and failed, miserable.

As everybody tried to copy and failed, miserable.

And they can't do the Teina time, so don't try.

And they can't do the Teina time, so don't try.

That was good. That was good. Okay, back to this episode. So going into this episode, Baby, your era is dwindling.

That was good. That was good. Okay, back to this episode. So going into this episode, Baby, your era is dwindling.

Girl.

Girl.

I mean the numbers are nowhere to be found.

I mean the numbers are nowhere to be found.

What number are the numbers?

What number are the numbers?

What was that like going against the larger groups? How did that feel?

What was that like going against the larger groups? How did that feel?

It was fun? Yeah? I liked it.

It was fun? Yeah? I liked it.

Yeah, I U as someone who comes in and you know, I just yeah, I shoot at the hip with these games. I like to have fun going up against the best representatives of every era.

Yeah, I U as someone who comes in and you know, I just yeah, I shoot at the hip with these games. I like to have fun going up against the best representatives of every era.

Shoot.

Shoot.

That was incredible. That was an incredible experience. It was incredible to be able to have a crash course on each one of these eras and how they operate.

That was incredible. That was an incredible experience. It was incredible to be able to have a crash course on each one of these eras and how they operate.

But were you at any point was there a moment of just like sadness or frustration when your team kept getting crippled like that, Oh, yeah, crippled.

But were you at any point was there a moment of just like sadness or frustration when your team kept getting crippled like that, Oh, yeah, crippled.

World, We're crippled. They Nancy Carigan us.

World, We're crippled. They Nancy Carigan us.

No, I couldnot.

No, I couldnot.

Taking us out.

Taking us out.

They're beating us down, I mean every elimination and then you've got to do the challenges.

They're beating us down, I mean every elimination and then you've got to do the challenges.

These other eras are like, oh they're weak. But you know what, they all been on vacation.

These other eras are like, oh they're weak. But you know what, they all been on vacation.

Okay, we've been doing the work and they've been they've been having fun.

Okay, we've been doing the work and they've been they've been having fun.

Speaking of fun, it was nice to see fun in this episode with Devin's birthday party. It's always fun seeing the friendships we're on the street was there was a roast. Yeah, there was ooh, tell us about it.

Speaking of fun, it was nice to see fun in this episode with Devin's birthday party. It's always fun seeing the friendships we're on the street was there was a roast. Yeah, there was ooh, tell us about it.

Okay, Carra got up and Kara she had a little.

Okay, Carra got up and Kara she had a little.

Help for Brian and Derek, and she roasted almost everybody in the room and it was freaking brilliant.

Help for Brian and Derek, and she roasted almost everybody in the room and it was freaking brilliant.

She was hilarious.

She was hilarious.

Everybody got to see the car that I see. Okay, this funny, goofy person who's actually lighthearted. And I thought it was great. I was like, car I think that was the greatest thing you could have done. Because everyone thinks she's this miserable person all the time.

Everybody got to see the car that I see. Okay, this funny, goofy person who's actually lighthearted. And I thought it was great. I was like, car I think that was the greatest thing you could have done. Because everyone thinks she's this miserable person all the time.

She's actually, yeah, she's definitely not.

She's actually, yeah, she's definitely not.

She's miserable around other miserable people.

She's miserable around other miserable people.

So you don't think everyone gets to see the car that you see?

So you don't think everyone gets to see the car that you see?

Yeah, well yeah, because I'm not miserable.

Yeah, well yeah, because I'm not miserable.

I mean, I candy, but and I know the game can bring out the most ugliest.

I mean, I candy, but and I know the game can bring out the most ugliest.

Sign right of anybody.

Sign right of anybody.

Yeah, So I.

Yeah, So I.

Offer grace with every single person because I'm you know, you go back and I don't have the cutest moments, you know, girl.

Offer grace with every single person because I'm you know, you go back and I don't have the cutest moments, you know, girl.

Yeah, girl, all of us.

Yeah, girl, all of us.

So I always I just always offer that grace to anybody that's done this.

So I always I just always offer that grace to anybody that's done this.

I mean, it's a it's a pressure, it's a pressure pot.

I mean, it's a it's a pressure, it's a pressure pot.

Yeah, Yeah, Kara is a lot of fun. I actually, I guess you're right. We don't get to see kind of her like let loose playfulness, but it's definitely there, and I feel like in past seasons we've gotten to see a little bit of it. Did anybody else Rose Dev at the party or was it just Kara?

Yeah, Yeah, Kara is a lot of fun. I actually, I guess you're right. We don't get to see kind of her like let loose playfulness, but it's definitely there, and I feel like in past seasons we've gotten to see a little bit of it. Did anybody else Rose Dev at the party or was it just Kara?

I think it was just Kara. Kara had it. She was locked and loaded, she was ready for it. And it was brilliant. It was good. It was hilarious. Even Devin was laughed like she had some good singers in there. M hm and Dev. Oh god, we were all crying, laughing.

I think it was just Kara. Kara had it. She was locked and loaded, she was ready for it. And it was brilliant. It was good. It was hilarious. Even Devin was laughed like she had some good singers in there. M hm and Dev. Oh god, we were all crying, laughing.

And I could see the change in everybody's eyes, like, oh, who is this? This is a Carra we haven't seen before.

And I could see the change in everybody's eyes, like, oh, who is this? This is a Carra we haven't seen before.

Oh I like that?

Oh I like that?

Yeah like that. I really encouraged her to do. I thought it was a great thing for her to do.

Yeah like that. I really encouraged her to do. I thought it was a great thing for her to do.

I you know, well, he wasn't very encouraging. What was this heights challenge? Okay? Because I was over here holding on to my stomach. Do you understand me, Tina, tell us how you are.

I you know, well, he wasn't very encouraging. What was this heights challenge? Okay? Because I was over here holding on to my stomach. Do you understand me, Tina, tell us how you are.

I thought that I should watch this episode on the toilet because just watch again, I felt like I was gonna pee myself. It was the scariest, most bad ass adrenaline.

I thought that I should watch this episode on the toilet because just watch again, I felt like I was gonna pee myself. It was the scariest, most bad ass adrenaline.

Pump bit challenge.

Pump bit challenge.

It was bad Darrell and I when we got out right, Durell couldn't stop talking about it.

It was bad Darrell and I when we got out right, Durell couldn't stop talking about it.

I couldn't stop talking about it. This challenge was everything.

I couldn't stop talking about it. This challenge was everything.

Man.

Man.

It was so beautiful seeing Darrell's reactioning you having known Drell so long, like we see him wipe away what looked like tears when he got back up on that platform and he spoke about what he told his kids, you know, which is just so incredibly beautiful. What was that like for you being there in the present, Like, what was that sort of energy? Did he say anything afterwards?

It was so beautiful seeing Darrell's reactioning you having known Drell so long, like we see him wipe away what looked like tears when he got back up on that platform and he spoke about what he told his kids, you know, which is just so incredibly beautiful. What was that like for you being there in the present, Like, what was that sort of energy? Did he say anything afterwards?

Okay, well I do know before he went off, he kind of did this tippy tappy thing and took a second, and I was about to shove him off the side of.

Okay, well I do know before he went off, he kind of did this tippy tappy thing and took a second, and I was about to shove him off the side of.

God. I told him. I was like, I'm gonna shove you off if you take your too much time.

God. I told him. I was like, I'm gonna shove you off if you take your too much time.

Uh.

Uh.

But he came up and I was proud of them, man, I was proud of them. I'm glad that the only where place he leaked was his eyes and not his I was, yeah, I was a struggle bus man. It was a struggle bus for everybody, and we make.

But he came up and I was proud of them, man, I was proud of them. I'm glad that the only where place he leaked was his eyes and not his I was, yeah, I was a struggle bus man. It was a struggle bus for everybody, and we make.

It look we make it look good, you know.

It look we make it look good, you know.

But in looking good, Tina, you didn't look as good when you picked two flags? Now, what happened?

But in looking good, Tina, you didn't look as good when you picked two flags? Now, what happened?

What it? Why are you trying to point out my mistake?

What it? Why are you trying to point out my mistake?

We're not, We're just we want we want to understand the brilliance behind.

We're not, We're just we want we want to understand the brilliance behind.

I'm scared.

I'm scared.

I was scared shitless, and so when I jumped off that thing, I over compensated and I close my eyes, girl, goose my eyes.

I was scared shitless, and so when I jumped off that thing, I over compensated and I close my eyes, girl, goose my eyes.

I just threw my arms out there and drop off. The hell was in front of me.

I just threw my arms out there and drop off. The hell was in front of me.

Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

And then I looked down as the street was coming towards me, and I yelled, fuck is coming towards me? Yeah, the street was coming. It was a nightmare. It was exactly what you imagine in your nightmare.

And then I looked down as the street was coming towards me, and I yelled, fuck is coming towards me? Yeah, the street was coming. It was a nightmare. It was exactly what you imagine in your nightmare.

Guys, yow, what part was the nightmare? Was it the catching of grabbing the two flags or just the whole running across you know.

Guys, yow, what part was the nightmare? Was it the catching of grabbing the two flags or just the whole running across you know.

I think consciously making the decision to jump off the side of a high rise building.

I think consciously making the decision to jump off the side of a high rise building.

Yeah, uh, and then.

Yeah, uh, and then.

Watching you make that decision and your stomach go into your throat, Yeah, as you see the sidewalk or cement in cars your your body is propelling towards cement. To be able to actually see it and to make that decision is uh wow. I don't know that many people who would be brave enough to do that. And we made it look easy, but it you know, Durrell created that good baseline like, this is not normal people's stuff, Guys, this is not we're like almost on trained professionals at this point. Guys, don't try this at home.

Watching you make that decision and your stomach go into your throat, Yeah, as you see the sidewalk or cement in cars your your body is propelling towards cement. To be able to actually see it and to make that decision is uh wow. I don't know that many people who would be brave enough to do that. And we made it look easy, but it you know, Durrell created that good baseline like, this is not normal people's stuff, Guys, this is not we're like almost on trained professionals at this point. Guys, don't try this at home.

But you did it, Tina, and we're so proud of you. Not that puzzle. On the other hand, m let's go back to that puzzle, because what happened it was the piece not over there because you said that a piece.

But you did it, Tina, and we're so proud of you. Not that puzzle. On the other hand, m let's go back to that puzzle, because what happened it was the piece not over there because you said that a piece.

Was no a piece was missing.

Was no a piece was missing.

It was okay, So we had to place our pieces on the side. The piece was small and it was dark and it was all the way in the corner back side.

It was okay, So we had to place our pieces on the side. The piece was small and it was dark and it was all the way in the corner back side.

So when I went and.

So when I went and.

Grabbed all the pieces, the board was high and I'm shorter, so I couldn't see or grab as easy my reach. So when I put I grabbed quickly all the pieces, threw it on board, started assembling them, and I'm like, this is why is this not lining up? I have this And I was like gosh, there's one missing. That's why it was just that was error on my part.

Grabbed all the pieces, the board was high and I'm shorter, so I couldn't see or grab as easy my reach. So when I put I grabbed quickly all the pieces, threw it on board, started assembling them, and I'm like, this is why is this not lining up? I have this And I was like gosh, there's one missing. That's why it was just that was error on my part.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, Well the night begins, do you immediately start politicking or like what happens?

Yeah, Well the night begins, do you immediately start politicking or like what happens?

No?

No?

Oh no, that's not my vibe, man, Oh no, my vibe is like, roll the dice, baby, let's play this game. I love that because I think a lot of these people, like, dude, you see these people, they implode, They put themselves in a pretzel. Work in the game so hard, and it's like, oh, it's trying to be a strategist. No, you're trying to be like a manipulator. In my opinion, because I always feel like the person who like does the most like that does the least in the game. Sometimes, like they don't pull them up their their weight, they just talk a lot.

Oh no, that's not my vibe, man, Oh no, my vibe is like, roll the dice, baby, let's play this game. I love that because I think a lot of these people, like, dude, you see these people, they implode, They put themselves in a pretzel. Work in the game so hard, and it's like, oh, it's trying to be a strategist. No, you're trying to be like a manipulator. In my opinion, because I always feel like the person who like does the most like that does the least in the game. Sometimes, like they don't pull them up their their weight, they just talk a lot.

Go ahead, Devin, ask her who's she talking about? What you talk about?

Go ahead, Devin, ask her who's she talking about? What you talk about?

What Devon's want of them? He's not the only one who.

What Devon's want of them? He's not the only one who.

Telling people to step up, and he hasn't even stepped up of himself.

Telling people to step up, and he hasn't even stepped up of himself.

You know, like these kind of things, it's like, you, guys, open your eyes.

You know, like these kind of things, it's like, you, guys, open your eyes.

I think, honestly, the steamrolling that other people allow these cast members to.

I think, honestly, the steamrolling that other people allow these cast members to.

Do to them is just sad. It's sad.

Do to them is just sad. It's sad.

Why do you think they do? Why do you think they allow that?

Why do you think they do? Why do you think they allow that?

I don't know, I don't know. Scared, intimidated that's it.

I don't know, I don't know. Scared, intimidated that's it.

Do you think it's though? Because they can kind of back it up, you know what I mean?

Do you think it's though? Because they can kind of back it up, you know what I mean?

Like, yes, yeah, yeah, they have influence, they have power, and they're convincing.

Like, yes, yeah, yeah, they have influence, they have power, and they're convincing.

Something that I thought was interesting was watching when Jordan came to tell you that, uh, well, Jordan and Nya, that they were coming to you know that you were this election to go in.

Something that I thought was interesting was watching when Jordan came to tell you that, uh, well, Jordan and Nya, that they were coming to you know that you were this election to go in.

Yeah, I'm so.

Yeah, I'm so.

I'm curious to get your take on this because in what we've seen of Jordan over the years, he actually seemed like he was handling it in as respectful of a way as we generally see Jordan, which I think speaks to how highly he regards you and the dynamic you've created. But yeah, how did you feel about that?

I'm curious to get your take on this because in what we've seen of Jordan over the years, he actually seemed like he was handling it in as respectful of a way as we generally see Jordan, which I think speaks to how highly he regards you and the dynamic you've created. But yeah, how did you feel about that?

He did? And this is why I do love Jordan.

He did? And this is why I do love Jordan.

He he was respectful with me.

He he was respectful with me.

He wasn't disrespectful. The only thing I could say was disrespectful.

He wasn't disrespectful. The only thing I could say was disrespectful.

Is Naya coming in smiling at me and hugging me and then telling me I'm going to get into elimination. I thought that that was in poor taste and Jordan's smiling at me, telling me I'm going into elimination.

Is Naya coming in smiling at me and hugging me and then telling me I'm going to get into elimination. I thought that that was in poor taste and Jordan's smiling at me, telling me I'm going into elimination.