“Lies, deception and an extreme lack of remorse”. In this special bonus episode, Xanthe and Tim dissect Erin Patterson’s newly released police interview for the ‘The Mushroom Trial: Say Grace’ podcast. They share their expert insights with Nine Reporter Penelope Liersch and The Age Crime & Justice Reporter Erin Pearson.


Follow ‘The Mushroom Trial: Say Grace’ podcast here 
Watch the full police interview on 9 News here

&ldquo;Lies, deception and an extreme lack of remorse&rdquo;. In this special bonus episode, Xanthe and Tim dissect Erin Patterson&rsquo;s newly released police interview for the &lsquo;The Mushroom Trial: Say Grace&rsquo; podcast. They share their expert insights with Nine Reporter Penelope Liersch and The Age Crime &amp; Justice Reporter Erin Pearson.
 Follow <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0HxEeYr0iKfTZitni3vjy7?si=55d53889035d43b6">&lsquo;The Mushroom Trial: Say Grace&rsquo; podcast here</a>&nbsp; Watch <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teHqwQuapsA">the full police interview on 9 News here</a>

Motive & Method is an expert-led Australian true crime podcast. Join Dr Xanthe Mallett and criminal psychologist Tim Watson-Munro as they unpack what really makes the offenders behind some of history’s most notorious cases tick, and also react and unpack crimes as they hit the headlines. You will also hear from victim survivors, investigators and advocates for change analysing motive, and method.

Motive &amp; Method is an expert-led Australian true crime podcast. Join Dr Xanthe Mallett and criminal psychologist Tim Watson-Munro as they unpack what really makes the offenders behind some of history’s most notorious cases tick, and also react and unpack crimes as they hit the headlines. You will also hear from victim survivors, investigators and advocates for change analysing motive, and method.

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Mushroom Trial Update: Erin Patterson’s Police Interview

She killed three babies and tried to murder two others. How is Australia's worst female serial killer now living in anonymity within close proximity to young children?
An investigation by A Current Affair reporter Erin Ramsay has thrust the case of Helen Patricia Moore, the so-called killer babysitter, back into the spotlight. Despite serving less than fourteen years for murdering babies in her care, Moore rebuilt her life under a new identity - and was babysitting again.
Plus, a chilling new claim from her own brother raises the possibility she got away with another murder. Erin Ramsay joins us to reveal what she uncovered and the alarming failures meant to protect children.

You can watch A Current Affair stories here:  on Youtube or 9Now

 

She killed three babies and tried to murder two others. How is Australia's worst female serial killer now living in anonymity within close proximity to young children? An investigation by A Current Affair reporter Erin Ramsay has thrust the case of Helen Patricia Moore, the so-called killer babysitter, back into the spotlight. Despite serving less than fourteen years for murdering babies in her care, Moore rebuilt her life under a new identity - and was babysitting again. Plus, a chilling new claim from her own brother raises the possibility she got away with another murder. Erin Ramsay joins us to reveal what she uncovered and the alarming failures meant to protect children.
You can watch A Current Affair stories here:&nbsp; on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GeMp4Cosuk">Youtube</a> or <a href="https://www.9now.com.au/a-current-affair/season-2026/clip-cmkcbeomp000b0hqoehqg93bx">9Now</a>
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The Killer Babysitter: Living Free & Babysitting Again

Is this another case of wrongful conviction like Kathleen Folbigg?
In this episode, we revisit the case of Lucy Letby, as fresh legal developments continue to reshape how the evidence is being examined. With new inquests announced and ongoing legal processes underway, questions are being raised about expert testimony, systemic failures and whether earlier conclusions still stand. Tim & Xanthe unpack what’s changed, what’s still contested and why this case remains far from settled.

Is this another case of wrongful conviction like Kathleen Folbigg? In this episode, we revisit the case of Lucy Letby,&nbsp;as fresh legal developments continue to reshape how the evidence is being examined. With new inquests announced and ongoing legal processes underway, questions are being raised about expert testimony, systemic failures and whether earlier conclusions still stand. Tim &amp; Xanthe unpack what&rsquo;s changed, what&rsquo;s still contested and why this case remains far from settled.

Lucy Letby: Is History Repeating?

The disappearance of four-year-old Gus Lamont has become one of the most troubling and fast-moving investigations in the country. The case that began as a desperate search in remote South Australia has since shifted into a major crime investigation. This episode, Tim & Xanthe discuss the key developments and turning points, and what detectives are saying now about their direction and their suspect. It's a case still unfolding with updates released literally as we record this episode, so by the time you're listening, the story may have already changed. 

The disappearance of four-year-old Gus Lamont has become one of the most troubling and fast-moving investigations in the country. The case that began as a desperate search in remote South Australia has since shifted into a major crime investigation. This episode, Tim &amp; Xanthe discuss the key developments and turning points, and what detectives are saying now about their direction and their suspect. It's a case still unfolding with updates released literally as we record this episode, so by the time you're listening, the story may have already changed.&nbsp;

Mushroom Trial Update: Erin Patterson’s Police Interview

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