How many of us have said “we really need to look at the household budget” or are guilty of claiming they’ll get to it “some day”? It’s a scenario that has played out countless times for journalist and podcaster Rosemary MacCabe. But when she and her husband Brandon finally sat down to look through the household accounts in their home in Fort Wayne, Indiana, they were in for a rude awakening. So how long will their debt journey take? Why are American attitudes to debt so different? And what goes first: the skincare or the nappies?

Host: Katie Byrne | Guest: Rosemary MacCabe (instagram.com/rosemarymaccabe)