Bron is joined by James Clarke (Clinical psychologist/PhD candidate) to unpack emotional labour. Get ready for a huge dose of validation as James confirms that delivering therapy is not just 'tea and biscuits' - it's REALLY hard work! They chat about 👉🏽 The unique emotional labour that psychologists undertake👉🏻 Strategies to manage emotional labour in session 👉 How to decompress outside of sessions 👉🏿 Why we are self-compassion converts.

Mental Work is the podcast unpacking the challenges faced by early career psychologists, so they don’t have to go it alone. Hosted by Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

LINKS
James' research article, 'Managing emotional labour in the provision of psychotherapy' (it's such a good read! A++)
Contact James - LinkedIn / Email: james.j.clarke@postgrad.curtin.edu.au
Kristin Neff - Self-compassion researcher and author: https://self-compassion.org/

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Producer: Michael English
Music: Home

Bron is joined by James Clarke (Clinical psychologist/PhD candidate) to unpack emotional labour. Get ready for a huge dose of validation as James confirms that delivering therapy is not just 'tea and biscuits' - it's REALLY hard work! They chat about 👉🏽 The unique emotional labour that psychologists undertake👉🏻 Strategies to manage emotional labour in session 👉 How to decompress outside of sessions 👉🏿 Why we are self-compassion converts.
Mental Work is the podcast unpacking the challenges faced by early career psychologists, so they don’t have to go it alone. Hosted by <a href="https://www.bronwynmilkins.com/">Dr Bronwyn Milkins</a>.
LINKS
<ul>
<li>James' research article, <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363794849_Managing_emotional_labour_in_the_provision_of_psychotherapy_-_what_matters_most">'Managing emotional labour in the provision of psychotherapy'</a> (it's such a good read! A++)</li>
<li>Contact James - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-clarke-453a3a168/?originalSubdomain=au">LinkedIn</a> / Email: <a href="mailto:james.j.clarke@postgrad.curtin.edu.au">james.j.clarke@postgrad.curtin.edu.au</a></li>
<li>Kristin Neff - Self-compassion researcher and author: <a href="https://self-compassion.org/">https://self-compassion.org/</a></li>
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CREDITS
Producer: Michael English Music: <a href="https://home96.bandcamp.com">Home</a>

Mental Work is the Australian podcast unpacking the challenges faced by early-career psychologists, so they don't have to go it alone. Hosted by Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

Mental Work is the Australian podcast unpacking the challenges faced by early-career psychologists, so they don't have to go it alone. Hosted by Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

A closer look at the everyday challenges faced by early-career mental health workers, so they don’t have to go it alone.

Mental Work

Emotional labour (with James Clarke)

It's a listener story!! 😍 Bron is joined by Kaedee who generously shares their journey to registration while managing complex chronic health conditions and working with a visible aid. Kaedee shares personal experiences of living with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, gastric dysmotility, and other health issues, discussing the impact on their career and identity. We talk about self-disclosure and the need for accommodations for mental health clinicians with diverse needs. Such an insightful convo, thanks so much Kaedee! ✨🌈

Guest: Kaedee Abel (she/they), Psychologist at Curious Steps Psychology

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Mental Work is the Australian podcast for mental health workers about working in mental health. Hosted by Bronwyn Milkins.

Support the show by buying me a virtual coffee ☕🍵

Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? DM Bron on Instagram or email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com

Apply to be a guest / YouTube (with captions & transcript) / Website

CREDITS

Producer: Michael English

Music: Home

Disclaimer: Mental Work provides information and entertainment content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or participant does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated service or organisation. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via email. Further information can be found here.

Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honor the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and people of diverse cultures. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on Whadjuk Noongar land in Boorloo.

It's a listener story!! 😍 Bron is joined by Kaedee who generously shares their journey to registration while managing complex chronic health conditions and working with a visible aid. Kaedee shares personal experiences of living with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, gastric dysmotility, and other health issues, discussing the impact on their career and identity. We talk about self-disclosure and the need for accommodations for mental health clinicians with diverse needs. Such an insightful convo, thanks so much Kaedee! ✨🌈
Guest: Kaedee Abel (she/they), <a href="https://www.curiousstepspsychology.com.au/">Psychologist at Curious Steps Psychology</a>
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Mental Work is the Australian podcast for mental health workers about working in mental health. Hosted by <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/about/">Bronwyn Milkins</a>.
Support the show by <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mentalwork">buying me a virtual coffee</a> ☕🍵
Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_mentalworkpodcast/">DM Bron on Instagram</a> or <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com</a>
<a href="https://www.podpage.com/mentalwork/p/guest/">Apply to be a guest</a> / <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MentalWorkPodcast">YouTube (with captions &amp; transcript)</a> / <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/">Website</a>
CREDITS
Producer: Michael English
Music: <a href="https://home96.bandcamp.com/">Home</a>
Disclaimer: Mental Work provides information and entertainment content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or participant does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated service or organisation. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email</a>. Further information can be found <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/p/disclaimer/">here</a>.
Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honor the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and people of diverse cultures. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on Whadjuk Noongar land in Boorloo.

Studying while ill and working with a visible health condition (with Kaedee Abel)

It's a listener story, wahooo! 🤩⭐ Bron is joined by Fabian, a newly registered psychologist (congrats Fabian!) who talks about his journey towards registration and the valuable lessons learned along the way. Fabian shares what it was like to study psychology internationally, their work in gender-affirming therapy 🏳️‍⚧️, overcoming imposter syndrome, balancing academic and work life, and his future aspirations in the field. SUCH a great convo, be sure to tune in!

Guest: Fabian Friedrich (he/they), Psychologist

LINKS
Email Fabian!
Online training on working with trans and gender diverse people
Trans Hub - for all info on gender diversity

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Mental Work is the Australian podcast for mental health workers about working in mental health. Hosted by Bronwyn Milkins.

Support the show by buying me a virtual coffee ☕🍵

Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? DM Bron on Instagram or email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com

Apply to be a guest / YouTube (with captions & transcript) / Website

CREDITS

Producer: Michael English

Music: Home

Disclaimer: Mental Work provides information and entertainment content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or participant does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated service or organisation. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via email. Further information can be found here.

Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honor the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and people of diverse cultures. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on Whadjuk Noongar land in Boorloo.

It's a listener story, wahooo! 🤩⭐ Bron is joined by Fabian, a newly registered psychologist (congrats Fabian!) who talks about his journey towards registration and the valuable lessons learned along the way. Fabian shares what it was like to study psychology internationally, their work in gender-affirming therapy 🏳️‍⚧️, overcoming imposter syndrome, balancing academic and work life, and his future aspirations in the field. SUCH a great convo, be sure to tune in!
Guest: Fabian Friedrich (he/they), <a href="https://www.kingstreetpsychologyclinic.com.au/research/fabian-friedrich">Psychologist</a>
LINKS
<ul>
<li><a href="mailto:fabian@kingstreetpsychology.com">Email Fabian!</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pridetraining.org.au/products/trans-vitality-transaffirming-practice-elearning">Online training on working with trans and gender diverse people</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.transhub.org.au/">Trans Hub</a> - for all info on gender diversity</li>
</ul>
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Mental Work is the Australian podcast for mental health workers about working in mental health. Hosted by <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/about/">Bronwyn Milkins</a>.
Support the show by <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mentalwork">buying me a virtual coffee</a> ☕🍵
Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_mentalworkpodcast/">DM Bron on Instagram</a> or <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com</a>
<a href="https://www.podpage.com/mentalwork/p/guest/">Apply to be a guest</a> / <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MentalWorkPodcast">YouTube (with captions &amp; transcript)</a> / <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/">Website</a>
CREDITS
Producer: Michael English
Music: <a href="https://home96.bandcamp.com/">Home</a>
Disclaimer: Mental Work provides information and entertainment content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or participant does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated service or organisation. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email</a>. Further information can be found <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/p/disclaimer/">here</a>.
Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honor the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and people of diverse cultures. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on Whadjuk Noongar land in Boorloo.

Studying internationally, working with gender diverse people, personalised self-care (with Fabian Friedrich)

Want to get your client off to a good start in therapy but feeling lost? Bron and Marie talk about how to nail these crucial sessions. We cover 👉🏽 Setting expectations 👉🏿 Creating safety and hope 👉 Talking to clients about their goals, strengths, and learning styles 👉🏻 The importance of clear admin processes.

Guest: Marie Vakakis, Accredited Mental Health Social Worker (MHSW), and Family & Couples Therapist at The Therapy Hub

LINKS
Marie has training on this topic!!! Click here if you're keen to further your learning.
This Complex Life - Marie's podcast where she delves into the messiness of wellbeing and relationships.

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Mental Work is the Australian podcast for mental health workers about working in mental health. Hosted by Bronwyn Milkins.

Support the show by buying me a virtual coffee ☕🥰

Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? DM Bron on Instagram or email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com

Apply to be a guest / YouTube (with captions & transcript) / Website

CREDITS

Producer: Michael English

Music: Home

Disclaimer: Mental Work provides information and entertainment content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or participant does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated service or organisation. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via email. Further information can be found here.

Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honor the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and people of diverse cultures. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on Whadjuk Noongar land in Boorloo.

Want to get your client off to a good start in therapy but feeling lost? Bron and Marie talk about how to nail these crucial sessions. We cover 👉🏽 Setting expectations 👉🏿 Creating safety and hope 👉 Talking to clients about their goals, strengths, and learning styles 👉🏻 The importance of clear admin processes.
Guest: Marie Vakakis, Accredited Mental Health Social Worker (MHSW), and Family &amp; Couples Therapist at <a href="https://thetherapyhub.com.au/">The Therapy Hub</a> 
LINKS
<ul>
<li><a href="https://marievakakis.com.au/courses/enhancing-clinical-outcomes-in-the-first-three-sessions/">Marie has training on this topic!!!</a> Click <a href="https://marievakakis.com.au/courses/enhancing-clinical-outcomes-in-the-first-three-sessions/">here</a> if you're keen to further your learning.</li>
<li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19N3wtZlpJTiBjJit2zqap">This Complex Life</a> - Marie's podcast where she delves into the messiness of wellbeing and relationships.</li>
</ul>
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Mental Work is the Australian podcast for mental health workers about working in mental health. Hosted by <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/about/">Bronwyn Milkins</a>.
Support the show by <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mentalwork">buying me a virtual coffee</a> ☕🥰
Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_mentalworkpodcast/">DM Bron on Instagram</a> or <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com</a>
<a href="https://www.podpage.com/mentalwork/p/guest/">Apply to be a guest</a> / <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MentalWorkPodcast">YouTube (with captions &amp; transcript)</a> / <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/">Website</a>
CREDITS
Producer: Michael English
Music: <a href="https://home96.bandcamp.com/">Home</a>
Disclaimer: Mental Work provides information and entertainment content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or participant does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated service or organisation. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email</a>. Further information can be found <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/p/disclaimer/">here</a>.
Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honor the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and people of diverse cultures. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on Whadjuk Noongar land in Boorloo.

Emotional labour (with James Clarke)

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