In Ep. 131, Jerry speaks with Jonathan Williams, chief economist of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). Join us for a conversation surrounding the release of ALEC’s latest Rich States Poor States data. Jerry and Jonathan discuss:
Which states are losing people — and gaining them
The consequences of the COVID era move to remote work
How states can “fall behind by standing still” on economic growth
What's behind the recent trend of corporate redomiciliation?

See the 2026 edition of ALEC’s Rich States, Poor States report here: https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/

In Ep. 131, Jerry speaks with Jonathan Williams, chief economist of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). Join us for a conversation surrounding the release of ALEC&rsquo;s latest Rich States Poor States data. Jerry and Jonathan discuss:
<ul>
<li>Which states are losing people &mdash; and gaining them</li>
<li>The consequences of the COVID era move to remote work</li>
<li>How states can &ldquo;fall behind by standing still&rdquo; on economic growth</li>
<li>What's behind the recent trend of corporate redomiciliation?</li>
</ul>
See the 2026 edition of ALEC&rsquo;s Rich States, Poor States report here: <a href="https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/" aria-label="Link https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/">https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/</a>

Meeting of Minds brings together the top minds in history, theology, finance, economics, language, mathematics and science. Host Jerry Bowyer invites guests to be both intelligent and clear and to follow truth wherever it leads.

Meeting of Minds brings together the top minds in history, theology, finance, economics, language, mathematics and science. Host Jerry Bowyer invites guests to be both intelligent and clear and to follow truth wherever it leads.

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I talk to the smartest people in the world about the wisest people who have ever lived, and I ask them not to dumb it down and not to follow any party line.

I talk to the smartest people in the world about the wisest people who have ever lived, and I ask them not to dumb it down and not to follow any party line.

Meeting of Minds

Which States are Winning and Losing in 2026? (w/ ALEC's Jonathan Williams)

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In Ep. #135, Jerry is joined by George Gilder, co-founder and senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Join us for a conversation around:
The roots of Gilder’s prescient predictions on technology
Science vs. Scientistism in the AI debate
What should we be really be ‘pacing’ in the rollout of AI products?

As mentioned in the episode, watch Discovery Institute’s latest film, “The Story of Everything,” here: https://www.thestoryofeverything.film

In Ep. #135, Jerry is joined by George Gilder, co-founder and senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Join us for a conversation around:
<ul>
<li>The roots of Gilder&rsquo;s prescient predictions on technology</li>
<li>Science vs. Scientistism in the AI debate</li>
<li>What should we be really be &lsquo;pacing&rsquo; in the rollout of AI products?</li>
</ul>
As mentioned in the episode, watch Discovery Institute&rsquo;s latest film, &ldquo;The Story of Everything,&rdquo; here: <a href="https://www.thestoryofeverything.film/" aria-label="Link https://www.thestoryofeverything.film">https://www.thestoryofeverything.film</a>

Technology futurist George Gilder: Separating Signal from Noise on AI and Data Centers

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In Ep. 134, Jerry is joined once again by David Bahnsen, founder and managing partner of The Bahnsen Group, for a discussion of David’s latest book, “Profit from the Profit: The Past, Present & Future of Dividend Growth Investing.”

Join us for a discussion of the economic and theological case behind dividend growth investing, why it is so countercultural, and how this approach naturally lends itself to authentic shareholder engagement.

Learn more at thebahnsengroup.com.

In Ep. 134, Jerry is joined once again by David Bahnsen, founder and managing partner of The Bahnsen Group, for a discussion of David&rsquo;s latest book, &ldquo;Profit from the Profit: The Past, Present &amp; Future of Dividend Growth Investing.&rdquo;
Join us for a discussion of the economic and theological case behind dividend growth investing, why it is so countercultural, and how this approach naturally lends itself to authentic shareholder engagement.
Learn more at <a href="https://thebahnsengroup.com/" aria-label="Link thebahnsengroup.com">thebahnsengroup.com</a>.

David Bahnsen: The Moral Roots of Dividend Growth Investing

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From Jerry: The following remarks were given by me at All Saints Episcopal Church shortly after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I was asked to speak by the priest of that church, Father Jay Geisler, and the first minute or so is about his work with addicts.

Ironically, after this call for us to continue to reason together as Christians and to not try to shut out, shut up, or cancel our opponents, shortly after these remarks, the bishop acted to impair me from serving in any leadership post at all in any parish in the diocese.

One year later, after we see the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the hateful and intolerant reaction of many to it, I thought the time had come to publish these remarks here. For what it's worth, knowing that I would be driven out of leadership in a denomination that I had served in for a quarter of a century in reaction to speaking, I still wouldn't change a thing. 

From Jerry: The following remarks were given by me at All Saints Episcopal Church shortly after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I was asked to speak by the priest of that church, Father Jay Geisler, and the first minute or so is about his work with addicts.
Ironically, after this call for us to continue to reason together as Christians and to not try to shut out, shut up, or cancel our opponents, shortly after these remarks, the bishop acted to impair me from serving in any leadership post at all in any parish in the diocese.
One year later, after we see the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the hateful and intolerant reaction of many to it, I thought the time had come to publish these remarks here. For what it's worth, knowing that I would be driven out of leadership in a denomination that I had served in for a quarter of a century in reaction to speaking, I still wouldn't change a thing.&nbsp;

Jerry Bowyer: On the Death of Charlie Kirk, My Last "Sermon" in the Episcopal Church

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Which States are Winning and Losing in 2026? (w/ ALEC's Jonathan Williams)

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