Jerry Bowyer talks with Missouri State Auditor Scott Fitzpatrick about the hidden influence of proxy advisory firms like ISS and Glass Lewis. Fitzpatrick explains why most pension plans lacked proxy guidelines (and the results of not having them), and how the left uses boardrooms to advance agendas that fail at the ballot box. He shares progress made in pushing back against ESG and why the battle for shareholder engagement is far from over.

Jerry Bowyer talks with Missouri State Auditor Scott Fitzpatrick about the hidden influence of proxy advisory firms like ISS and Glass Lewis. Fitzpatrick explains why most pension plans lacked proxy guidelines (and the results of not having them), and how the left uses boardrooms to advance agendas that fail at the ballot box. He shares progress made in pushing back against ESG and why the battle for shareholder engagement is far from over.

Meeting of Minds brings together the top minds in history, theology, finance, economics, language, mathematics and science. Host Jerry Bowyer invites guests to be both intelligent and clear and to follow truth wherever it leads.

Meeting of Minds brings together the top minds in history, theology, finance, economics, language, mathematics and science. Host Jerry Bowyer invites guests to be both intelligent and clear and to follow truth wherever it leads.

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I talk to the smartest people in the world about the wisest people who have ever lived, and I ask them not to dumb it down and not to follow any party line.

I talk to the smartest people in the world about the wisest people who have ever lived, and I ask them not to dumb it down and not to follow any party line.

Meeting of Minds

Missouri State Auditor on Proxy Advisor Power: “The most powerful institutions you’ve never heard of.”

From Jerry: The following remarks were given by me at All Saints Episcopal Church shortly after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I was asked to speak by the priest of that church, Father Jay Geisler, and the first minute or so is about his work with addicts.

Ironically, after this call for us to continue to reason together as Christians and to not try to shut out, shut up, or cancel our opponents, shortly after these remarks, the bishop acted to impair me from serving in any leadership post at all in any parish in the diocese.

One year later, after we see the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the hateful and intolerant reaction of many to it, I thought the time had come to publish these remarks here. For what it's worth, knowing that I would be driven out of leadership in a denomination that I had served in for a quarter of a century in reaction to speaking, I still wouldn't change a thing. 

From Jerry: The following remarks were given by me at All Saints Episcopal Church shortly after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I was asked to speak by the priest of that church, Father Jay Geisler, and the first minute or so is about his work with addicts.
Ironically, after this call for us to continue to reason together as Christians and to not try to shut out, shut up, or cancel our opponents, shortly after these remarks, the bishop acted to impair me from serving in any leadership post at all in any parish in the diocese.
One year later, after we see the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the hateful and intolerant reaction of many to it, I thought the time had come to publish these remarks here. For what it's worth, knowing that I would be driven out of leadership in a denomination that I had served in for a quarter of a century in reaction to speaking, I still wouldn't change a thing.&nbsp;

Jerry Bowyer: On the Death of Charlie Kirk, My Last "Sermon" in the Episcopal Church

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In episode 132, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research talks with Joel Chakra, president of the Tim Tebow Foundation, about the importance of Christian engagement in technology, the potential for faith-driven innovation, and how believers can lead in the development of tech that promotes human flourishing and serves the vulnerable.

Read Joel's piece at the Believe Journal here: https://www.thebelievejournal.com/p/christians-shouldnt-avoid-tech-we

In episode 132, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research talks with Joel Chakra, president of the Tim Tebow Foundation, about the importance of Christian engagement in technology, the potential for faith-driven innovation, and how believers can lead in the development of tech that promotes human flourishing and serves the vulnerable.
Read Joel's piece at the Believe Journal here: <a href="https://www.thebelievejournal.com/p/christians-shouldnt-avoid-tech-we">https://www.thebelievejournal.com/p/christians-shouldnt-avoid-tech-we</a>

Tebow’s Joel Chakra: Why Christians Should Dominate Tech

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/76b47da6-acc0-403e-b1e7-b4a200c7d058/transcript

In Ep. 131, Jerry speaks with Jonathan Williams, chief economist of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). Join us for a conversation surrounding the release of ALEC’s latest Rich States Poor States data. Jerry and Jonathan discuss:
Which states are losing people — and gaining them
The consequences of the COVID era move to remote work
How states can “fall behind by standing still” on economic growth
What's behind the recent trend of corporate redomiciliation?

See the 2026 edition of ALEC’s Rich States, Poor States report here: https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/

In Ep. 131, Jerry speaks with Jonathan Williams, chief economist of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). Join us for a conversation surrounding the release of ALEC&rsquo;s latest Rich States Poor States data. Jerry and Jonathan discuss:
<ul>
<li>Which states are losing people &mdash; and gaining them</li>
<li>The consequences of the COVID era move to remote work</li>
<li>How states can &ldquo;fall behind by standing still&rdquo; on economic growth</li>
<li>What's behind the recent trend of corporate redomiciliation?</li>
</ul>
See the 2026 edition of ALEC&rsquo;s Rich States, Poor States report here: <a href="https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/" aria-label="Link https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/">https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/</a>

Which States are Winning and Losing in 2026? (w/ ALEC's Jonathan Williams)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/a5469dea-085a-4854-a986-b495010d90d9/transcript

Missouri State Auditor on Proxy Advisor Power: “The most powerful institutions you’ve never heard of.”

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