One of the most important and growing trends in finance is state officials who recognize their constitutional role to protect the financial interests of their taxpayers and retirees. We continue our discussion of this phenomenon with Nebraska Treasurer John Murante, who has spoken publicly about how Blackrock and others are not just attacking the energy industry, but attacking our food producers as well (https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/esg-investing-hurts-the-poor-and-empowers-tyrants/). He talks with Meeting of Minds about how politicized investing hurts farmers, and also empowers tyrants, and how it functions as a kind of secular religion.