Media Mash: More Motivation?

Published Dec 7, 2022, 10:00 PM
Following the courting of free agent WR Odell Beckham Jr. the panel debate the effects his visit may have had on the Dallas Cowboys wide receiver corps and more on Media Mash.

The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This is media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host, Newy scrugs. Here we are the meeting, Nash. It is Wednesday. We've got your favorites, the ones you love, the insiders, ones who cover the Cowboys, who listen to the rules, except for Clarence. Tad is tired of you talking at a turn. Okay, pickyback pickbacks. Tad's gonna have something for you this Christmas. It was gonna be a gift. Dad Carpers, the head of PR For anybody who doesn't know, that's what we're talking about. At a point, tend to point. Tad's got it all lined up. In Clarence just after getting well green Bay, I thought Green Bay he was gonna choking and green Clarence gets excited after these games. But I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm standing right by you, and I first of all, sometimes I mean, I understand what he's trying to do, but it's silly on World Games. But that was that it's sitting on road games in the locker room, uh and me where it just everybody's standing and it's like a crowded room sitting there for you. And do this when you're with a regular press conference, when we're sitting on Monday. It makes sense because you know people can see you, nobody can come on stop it. I personally appreciate it because not on road games, because first of all, you get your own First of all, let's let's let's open the curt behind the scenes. Miss NFL Network gets goes to the interview, they'll pull her into the locker room so she get to get the main player. Yeah, but I'm talking about it. Begin at the locker room. They pull her in and she gets her own personal Last I checked, Jerry is the chairperson of the NFL Network. Nobody's hating on that. And if you're not telling me that you don't get phone calls from in the house because Jerry Jones loves to see his papers, the newspapers. You act like you guys don't there. It was just a few years ago that I tried to sit in on an off the record conversation and I was told I'm not local. I live on this speed. You guys get plenty. You're taking us down another road, right. I was not hating the one that's like she gets three questions off to the side. I was not hating excess. I was just pointing out, you do have exclusive excess. I was not hating on It's okay just as much exclusive. No no, no, don't no no do not So so we're not getting back to the NFL partner, and that's getting getting back to those sessions about the stadium at six thirty in the morning, and so your seven hours of pregame car crazy means not hating on your access. You don't have to attack. What I'm saying is I never attack. That was the tech. I feel like you have no news and checks you a little bit. You were you were talking about the back and forth of the questions and sometimes it's not needed when you're in a crowded locker room after the game. That's I would argue. With some of the personalities on our beat, there's actually a nice flow to it. Again, it might be the biggest personality and the beat, let's see, it's weird the room that somebody got to ask questions. Okay, oh yeah, because yeah, you know what, I'll tell you, guys, what after that Green Bay loss, if Chill would have been there to ask questions, you know, Mike and Dak would just staid at the podium, we all would have you guys have anything to say, No, let's get out here. There's nothing to talk about it for that game, nobody would ask any question. Do you want to take the into your show? Yes, Clarence Hill, four star Telegram John the show to the athletic Jane Slater of NFL Media, I'm merely knew, He scrugs. But this is what we're gonna do here for the next forty five. May have some we're going to do, and you see how we eat our own. John is on my side. Really, he doesn't think that we need to be doing that point and stuff either. But because I made that one statement, then he jumps on Jane's side and attacks me because family I was. I was just talking say that no one's gonna ask any questions. But but you could have been on that. I'm just saying there only a few people are going to ask questions. What I'm saying you could be in that group. I'm just saying I'm talking to Jane understanding that it's not necessary to do this, this, this, all this. I need to get those first couple of questions, and because I need to get those tweets out, Yeah, exactly, I need somebody got asked the question to get them tweets out. See, we're on the same team, don't that, Jane. I never said we weren't. It literally is the reason why I love to beat so much, because we do allow ourselves the opportunity to sort of cap on each other and actually is like a family. I love you, Clarence. I'll tell you right now. I'll tell you right now. We talked about yesterday and the Jeff when I showed up to the American Airline Center and I see him and I see Calvin. It's we didn't tell each other that we were going, but it's like, well, Odell's gonna be here. We all It's just like the combine. You know, you're just like, you know you're gonna see everybody. So I lost my edge, you know, I found myself going I should have gone to that listen. Yeah, that stuffs beneath him, don't care. We had Tim McMahan down there him. Yeah, you know, he had some ESPN people down there, but but yeah, we were we had to be there. He had I mean I had already known. You know, we were talking about it Sunday after the game. We're asking Dec and Mata you go on, I'm going, I'm going, you want to say. I didn't really know because I had some stuff at the house with my family and I didn't know. But I did put it in requests just in case. I just then I gotta go. I'll be honest. I was following all of your content. Was just as fascinated as everyone else, because I think a lot of us too. And Doc had talked about this. He's more of a sweet guy at courtside. But I was like, where, Zeke, where, where's the contential? So you missed that? Oh? I know I did. We're at the Zeke press car. That was awesome when I asked. First of all, we got a couple of things on Zeke. I know we're off the rails here, so I asked, I asked Zeke about why weren't you cool side? Why weren't you with them? Of course side? And he would I can't go everywhere. Yeah, I wouldn't go everywhere to be out everywhere. Yeah, I'll be talking about me. He's not wrong. So I can't see that because it was odd. Odell was an older player. I know, he's more Dak and Zeke's age than Michael and Trevn's age. Okay, so he was It just odd that he was with Mike and Trevor. No offensive guys, two defensive got two young defensive guys. That that that's the group he was with. You're not wrong, that was my thought. My thought was because Dak and Zeke spent a lot of time with him at Pro Bowl, remember, Yeah, so I just assumed that they would be part of the contingency. And I even asked Micah and Trayvon the level of friendship, and it's like, I think, no different than a lot of us on social media that are friends with other reporters. We meet on Instagram, you see each other. But that was kind of the I don't know where right or even maybe CD it was a receiver. It just it was interesting that it was Treyvon and so yes we and Corey Gamble and Corey Gamble which is you know, Chris Jender's which is what is wondering who like who's that guy? Yeah he was. John told me yesterday who so black? So he he enjoyed that. But I'll be honest, I felt dirty. I feel like paparazzi. There was a paparazzi moment and I feel that way too, Yeah, because I'm too old to be chasing people down in the halls and going this way and I am, but they know and it's not and it's not chasing because when I think of chasing, I think of like running after something. It's not that we've done that before. Backwards though, while they're walking and you don't know what's about, and they're not trying to know other people. If one thing, if you're doing, they're gonna stop and doing interviews. Nothing where they're not trying to talk to you. I feel like TMZ at the airport when they get those guys at the airport. So we're doing that and we felt dirty. But yeah, it was fun. Everybody is there and so Jane again trying to throw another body was you're so so so everybody is taking video of him coming in and leaving, right. You took the video of leaving the arena. Absolutely so leaving the arena, he stopped and chats chats it up with some female fans. Did you not get the video him chatting up with female fans? Did you not show that? What are you walking out? I cut my videos so that there's certain things in, certain things left out, so you didn't show the female fans hugging him up and getting the phone number. Clarence hill Row, My fisher was in two so he has so we all, yes, everybody. What I'm saying is so I just showed the whole video of him. I was trying to ask me questions. He wouldn't stop for me, but he stopped for these young ladies. And then you know, they gave him a phone number and he kept walking out the building. That's whatever a fact that the number was exchanged. It was something I don't know. Everybody on Facebook, Twitter, everybody said the numbers excited people. How you posted this on your Instagram? Tell him, you tell him, you tell her. I highly enjoyed it, but he posted it was like Hope J just saying hi to his fans very attractive women as they don't seem to have a familiarity with I said, oh, BJ leaving the Mayo's game saying hot to his fans. Fans was in quote. That's what happened. He was leaving the build us in out to his fans. And then she told and she told Zeke and the clowns you posted that. You well, you though you did him dirty. I did. He was just talking to fans. You tried to do him dirty over what Jerry did to it. Oh, yeah, I was just returning the favor. Yes, And we had that moment in the locker room. I'm sorry, we have completely but it's inside to what's going on. We're not allowed on together. And it was a really good locker room, by the way. Oh and so Zeke. So Zeke and I were talking about I asked Zeke about the Jerry comments. Hedn't want to talk about it again. Ain't talking You keep asking me any questions. And then he gave me a hook. They didn't have a hug. So we had already quashed it. And Jane comes back and said, throws me back out of the bus. No, but it was a good locker room today because you Mica talking about that visit, you know, the recruiting trip. I think the biggest thing to come out of that is that we all have sat there and gone around like, okay, well when we'd be able to come back and play when we have to play, And Mica said that Odell told him five weeks. So that's five weeks from now, that's started the playoffs. That a why don't you take it from there? Because you don't want too pleased about that? I tried to tell you, I'm out. Yeah, further why I'm out. But okay, you guys are all in. Clearly you enjoyed the drama coming around. Man, that's you guys like that. You guys like that, and that's okay. Yeah, so you're changing the story a little bit there because they didn't know that you didn't know the medicals. Though you didn't know the medical The medicals change things, okay, So when the medicals are fine, I'd be still I would be all about them. First. There's two different things here. There's covering the story and also believing where he should be on the team. Yes, we enjoyed covering the story. That's our job. So to say we enjoyed it, Yes, we enjoy talking about it. We have to get its content. We enjoy always stuff. Okay, there's a different between enjoying content and saying this is who should they should add to the team. So it's our job to report the content. So we enjoy that. That's our job. Now as we analyze whether it's the bright thing for the cowboy to do. That's maybe a different conversation once you get all the information in Okay. I think based on my discussions, I think Jerry was very optimistic beforehand before the visit. And remember we were outside the locker room on Sunday. I had said to Jerry, I said, are you comfortable giving a guy a contract that you're not working out? And he said, I would do something uncomfortable. I have to because of the surgery. But then I think when he got in here, remember he also said, I'll know like he's been wrong on the feelings for I get the sense when he was here and after talking to a bunch of people, the concern started to creep up up about this knee. And I had pointed out to someone, well, what about the workout videos. We saw him, you know, pulling weights and we heard about the acceleration he's doing, and I was told a lot of it was front on. You're not seeing him cut in and out, and that was caused for concern and I've asked everyone close to OBJ, why isn't he working out? Like how much is it going to set him back in his rehab process if we're seeing him pulling weights and doing some of that stuff just to go outside and run a few routes with dak If no one can give me a straight answer on that. First of all, First of all, you can't really sit back when you're working out with the trainers who are whose job is it to make sure you're healthy. I mean that that's part of it. They wouldn't put him, they wouldn't jeopardize him and put him in a situation like that. But but just just going back the tenor the momentum has waned. You know, Jerry Jones was very excited Sunday night, very excited last week about the visit and pitting visit, what he could do for the team. His tone changed on the radio Tuesday, and we talked to me again the day and he refused to say that they were out. He said, we're still working on it. But his tone is just much different than it was before. And it certainly had something to do with what he saw with the metal Before you guys jump in, I got it because I said that was locker room was good today. And so DeMarcus Lawrence quote is definitely for NEWI oh yeah, I saw, yes, So what he's saying? All right? So DeMarcus Lawrence was asked, is it fair to say that you want the Cowboys to sign Oute Beckham Junior. I loved this one. He says, it's fair to say. I'm trying to reach a super Bowl, So if he can come and help us with that, then yes, I'll accept him. But if we're just going to do the circus, no I don't. I'm focused on this year, this team, what we have in this locker room, and the journey we're on. So that circus. I literally when he said circus, I was like, I had a picture of New He scrugs in my head and let me bring up South Carolina. Yes, yes, I had a personal league once. Tell me if you want a free agent, you don't let him leave the building. And I said to Jerry, I said that to and he goes, well, I've had some guys leave the building. And I went up to Jason Peters. I said, did you have an offer when you left the building? He goes, I did. Now that was a little different. He was able to work out for him. They had the Arkansas connection. They you know, obviously wanted to be a Cowboys from the area. But my point is when you want a guy, you typically don't let him leave the building. And I don't know if the Giants offered him or the Bills offered him, but there certainly hasn't been any There's typically leaked on that they've talked money. Though the Cowboys have talked money. Okay, they made offer was made. They they've talked money, and they might have talked him, but there's not an offer. But they have an understanding of what he wants and what they want, and there's there's an understanding about that. But but beyond the when you're being intentional an offer, Yes, Dad, Let's get to the offer of what we may be hearing as we tease the audience. There's more to come with our insiders. We did go fifteen minutes for the first club. Parence Hill Star Telegram, John Michure, the Athletic Change Slater NFL in the media, Neuis Scruggs. I'm trying to ban this thing and keep it together. But when we come back to MVP how we might have some offers here. Let's give into that next right here, Dallas Cottboys dot com Radio. 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Okay, record seventh appearance, by the way, lest sometimes you go, hey, there was a time when with the Holiday Bow, Sir, I don't know if you remember those Holiday bo Yes, yes, every year in Holiday Remember the year they got out of it Mac Politic to get out of the Holiday Bowl and threw Aaron Rodgers in it, and Aaron was mad and Cal got smoked. So let's just start calling it their Texas Bowl. I mean that's where they live. They got one in Houston called the Texas Spring, so it's the Longhorn invitation. Hey, hey, you better I gotta ask you a question, Jane, I don't know if you follow college for us? What both of penbro stay going to? I have no idea. Do you know what? You don't even know what that is? No? You've heard of it? No? Yeah, you know what? No, I'm sorry. I mean he's he's the smartest guys, I know, great smart guys. Division two level. There are no bowl games in the Division two Do you not know that? Dude? They got playoffs? Y'all got you got jokes? Don't y'all winning playoff? Oh? Y'all winning anything? I actually actually knew it. Where you going to score? Right now? Hey? Why are you doing this? Literally one of the smartest guys. I know. We're not hating all his smartness, but he's hating on your album, so it's fair to point out his album made. That's all I'm saying. That's fair. That's fair game. It's fair game, and we're I'm not a two attack, but he he took a shot at your t school. Jane just can't let him go. No, you're not. You're not. Why why wouldn't would Uh? Who's on our team? Every every long horn it comes here knows your name? Why because I covered him when I was at Because you worked with the ut line Jefferson. Yeah, they all know her, they worship her. No, they talked, Jeez, save this Newey. We were talking about Odell Beckham. You were gonna give us numbers, sir, I don't. I mean, what I understand is that it's been the situation on along Um. Clearly the Cowboys don't know if he's ready this year, but they don't want to do more than one year. What did he want numbers is? I don't know what the numbers are. I mean, I've I've heard twenty million over two years. I don't know if I'm doing that. If he's healthy, it is age. I think the question you really have to raise and I had brought this up because I've talked through this with about eight people on his I've talked to people that are close to OBJ, I've talked to people over here, and my question was whether the Cowboys get OBJ or not, and whether people believe that this was a Jerry stunt or not. It did motivate your wide receiver room. I mean, think about it. We started talking about OBJ and the bye week, and then in the Packers game we started seeing CD really come along and then Michael Gallop, and while they've said the right things on camera, you can kind of feel a little bit of the fatigue from both of them and the frustration. So I think you properly motivated that room, which I think is a good thing. But CD is going to be coming up for a contract next year. Tony Pollard and I just have to wonder if you sign a guy and you're giving him all this money and he's just sitting on a shelf for you. I don't think ob J is a cancer. If he's able to play for you, I think he I've enjoyed covering ob J in his career. I think he's a talented player, and I think if he could play right now, Jerry would have literally opened up the pocketbook. I truly believe he would have let him leave. He would not have let him leave the building without an offer, and he would have been competitive about it. But if you were to sign a guy based on it future and you've got guys coming up for a contract and he's taking away a piece of the pie, and he's older. He's got these two acal situations. I think that has a potential to create some friction in that locker round. Yeah, but that's what I believe. I agree. But but again, like DeMarcus said, the focus is now. The focus is winning now. It's it's all about winning now. And so yeah, it's kind of coincidental that the Rod receivers started playing better when all this talk came up. I think it's coincident. Well, I think if you told there was some young guy on your beat and they're like, you know, Clearance isn't really getting a lot of scoops. We want someone like John that's gonna take a bunch of videos, get us more clicks. You'd be stepping up your social media game. Okay, but what do you just want? What I'm saying is this. What I'm saying is this. I think it's also not a secret that they started playing better when Deck showed up. I think all of it is linked together continuity. But I think there was just a little bit of fire for any of that. But as it shouldn't be. But but the thing about it is is that and I think it's still a question. The need for Odell is not about the way CD was playing, or really the way Michael Gallop was playing, is that they need another weapon. The third receiver is Noel Brown. He's a personal punt protector. They still and I but Cowboy is a third wide receiver or even a two guy worth what he's we're ultimately looking for. I think that's what that was a thing too, is that you're not talking about just a two or three. You're talking about a two or three that, if healthy, can produce like a one. Right, And you're talking about this So Jerry was, Yeah, it's always about the hell that's that's the main thing. But Jerry was talking about this being a potential difference making player. I'm doing it because he's a difference making player. If he's not a difference making player, then yeah, it's off the table. But if he's had the difference making players, I don't care about their feelings. It's all about winning right now. It's not about their feelings. The Cowboys are worried about feelings for twenty seven years. I don't think they care about feelings. If he can play right now, we're on the same page. We're saying about. What I'm saying is if you're paying that guy all that money and he can't contribute the season, I think, and then it starts to mess with your piece of the pie. They're not. That's where it creates, and which is why a deal hasn't been done. But they're not doing it if you can't help this season. Let me ask you this, do you think Jerry is really in good faith still working on a deal? He told us today he was, But do you guys a good faith still working on it. I think that's still in conversation now. I think they're still in conversations into him. That that's part of it. I don't think that the the the communication have been shut off, so in essence, it's not over. They haven't moved on. Jerry hasn't moved on in his mind. And until Jerry boves on in his mind, it doesn't matter what anybody else in the organizations thing Jerry. Jerry won't move on until he's with a different team. And I hear you as I was told, Jerry could could surprise everyone. Jerry could feel like this guy is good for business, liked his energy. I think there's a part of him, like Papa Monday Night kind of misses what does brought to this organization, that personality, the branding. But I do think that there's a lot of people in the building that are like, is this worth it? And to your point what DeMarcus said, look at the circus that comes with it, and they haven't really had a circus type player around he think about right, and that that is a great thing about this team is because they don't have that circus type player. And and and Zeke got a lot of tension because of off the field stuff, but it's not like they have that that thousand light bulb type player on this team. And he would he certainly. And Jerry likes that. He liked that with Michael Irving like he he likes that with Dion Sanders. He likes that thousand wild personality and they haven't had that. And Jerry doesn't care that it's a circus. I know, DeMarcus Lawrence the one certain Jerry don't care. I get it. Let me dive into some substance here seventy seven at practice today. Oh yeah, when do you expect him to be in the lineup? I think it's pushing it to say, this week, but next week, I don't. I don't think he's that far away. The way Zeke talked about him today, what he saw from him, he said, you know, he looked like a guy. I don't have the right quote with me right now, but I mean, look, he saw a guy that he felt like was ready to contribute it right away. I just don't think that they would put him out there after only practicing for three days, coming off that injury like that, Zeke said, And he looked really good. I feel bad for those d ns he was going against. I'm sure they're gonna have some bruises on their chest. He looks good. He looks he's put in shape. An Tyring Smith, by the way, the doctor good news. And I talked to Tarren. He said he if they if they let him go, he's ready to play. Yeah. But the other thing about this is is a good news is how the Cowboy's been doing it, how they've been rotating gays. So there's a chance he could come out and do what they've done with Jason Peters. He doesn't have to play the whole game, but it's the Texas. If you're going to experimenting, let's see what the guy got, we can put him in part of the rotation. A couple of snaps. Does it get that much more difficult the following week, though, so I was told because I asked that exact question, I said, were you guys setting up to sort of sub in, subout and East Tyrant in by what we saw at the Colts game? Because I think all of us were sort of scratching her heads, like why are you moving these guys in game? And it was described to me that we could see him making his debut against Jacksonville and that's what when you would see a sub in, subout and then he would be obviously ready to go for the Eagles. Like that seems to be what they're kind of circling right now, is let's get him. You know, it's Mike McCarthy always says, let's get a full week of practice, see how your body feels. But it sounds like he would play in the Jacksonville game, but maybe not necessarily start. You'd see that sub in, subout, and then he'd be ready to go for it. And he's been ramping up for a while. It's not like he's just coming off the street, you know, kind of like Jason Peters. You know, he has been around, he's been out there with Britty, he was here for all the training camp. So it's not like you're starting from scratch, you know. And so he knows the system, he knows the offense, and so again it's funny to me and I'm glad they're doing it. I think that the Cowboys this year are doing whatever it takes to win a Super Bowl because I know in the year's past you never messed with offensive line of chemistry. You don't want to do this. That's fantasy football. We can't move Zach Martin left tackling. You gotta move one guy, you gotta move two guys. All that mumbo jumbo. They're moving guys all around there, tinkering with it because they're trying to get the best five guys out there. And that is great. That's what you want to do. That's what you should be doing, especially against these games that you bet they're gonna blow out. They should blow out of you sitting. They should do the same thing with Jacksonville. Let's let's find out about this team. These are preseason games. But to be fair, I think a lot of these guys exceeded a lot of expectations. I don't think a lot of people thought or Smith was going to be as good as he was, or have the position flex that they've kind of been missing on. As a yes, and that's great, but especially a rookie, you don't even they don't even want to do that with a veteran, make him learn two different positions. They're doing that. We would have these conversations, how hard is it to move? Well, you can't just move from guard to time. They've made it Rocket Simms. It's just impossible to do it is now the sudden. You can just let him play where you can play. Connor McGovern can play Garden Center and Tackling the same game as it's just fullback everything and show that stuff. Yeah, since since you said about substance, also wanted to end here. Clark's gonna love this. Although I don't know that we'll see Tyrn Smith this week, I think we will see something from James Washington. It sounds like he was, you know, he's fully cleared. McCarthy said he's physically ready and that he was going to do a lot more work today than he did last week. So maybe we see him out there for for some plays. Um, I'm sure that that that crowd that they're listening to this that wants to move on from model. Beckham would love for James Washington and come in and say it show any positive. It's Washington though, based on what we saw the Steelers. Okay, but okay, listen to that negative. It was negative a whole lot of range. Okay, Okay, I ask something. I'm as specific. I'm glad you brought it up. Whatever he did was the Steelers was better than Noah Brown has ever done. WHOA, I feel like that's a little harsh. I feel I thought I told you it was going to go this way, Burnt Orange Haters. Noah was quite the dog in the first couple of games this year. I'm talking about throughout his career before this year. Whatever James watching whatever, whatever James watching it done with the Steelers was better than he's ever done. That's a fair argument. That's my point. That's all I'm saying. So so just it's not about Odell Beckham Kenny upgrade from James Washington, because again it's it's not just about we keep talking about the development of CD and development of Michael gallop. But last year and they got in trouble. You know, they were locking all three of them down. They were the physical corners. You still need another guy, that's fair. You don't have a lot of faith in Semi or Jalen. Stop. That's not stop. Stop do they I'm asking said, an't even on a roster any in the reserve mass ten weekness, just messing with you, okay. I did ask down against the damn baby Buccaneers. I did ask Vanta today. I said, are we going to start seeing you get involved in the offense? And he said, there's plays in there for me. Says there's plays in there for me, And he says, I typically play my best football in January, So I think you could start seeing him. Maybe they've got something in the playbook for him during the playoffs. Listen, let's hit the brake here, um, boss man fact who it's our confidence level and number one Kelvin Joseph and Chris Canty is calling for a firing of Mike McCarthy if this thing happens. We'll dive into that next with Clarence Hill. To Star Telegram, John showed the athletic Jane slat of NFL Mediam Newly scrugs. This is the media mash on Dallas Cowboys Starch dot com radio. The season is finally here. For months, we've been gearing up to win. Now it's time for the team that performs on any fuel. United egg In Turf with John Deer zero turns for mowing, compact tractors for loading, many excavators for digging, Gator utility vehicles for hauling, implements for grading, hay tools for bailing, United agg In Turf for winning the official LaGG and Turf equipment supplier of the Dallas Cowboys. Visit United Agginturf dot com for more. Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the cheetah Savannah. 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With Kelvin Joseph on the football field, make me feel good about this. Having to see Number one play significant minutes in the secondary for the Dallas Cowboys as they try to make a season ending push here in January to go to the playoffs. We've given a lot of opinions though, which why do you feel that way? Okay, time you see him in action, Christian Wilkins touchdown, Coltskin touchdown, I mean penalty. I agree. When you look here, you just you see a second round pick and you just say, here's here's my thing. I don't know, like forget this week and next week, but well we're gonna say going into the playoffs, you could tell me that that starting corner opposite of Treyvon Diggs outside corner because Bland will be the guy in the slot. You could tell me it's Calvin Joseph and Sean Wright, Kendall Sheffield, McKenzie, Alexander they just said, and I would I could understand any one of them, Like, I can't rule out any of it right now. Kelvin Joseph is going to get every opportunity. I mean, he's a second round pick. He's the next guy in the depth chart. But if you told me going to the playoffs that he wasn't the other startain corner, We're not surprised me at all. Yeah. I think the issue with Kelvin Joseph has been his consistency and the cost of it. And I just keep going back to the calls that I would get from my LSU folks that they warned the Cowboys multiple times knowing that he was sitting there and that the Cowboys were showing interest. I don't know, I feel like some people would say that this was a guy you don't roll the dice on, right, But there's I'm sure that there are some people, maybe not to that that length, but I'm sure that there's people with a lot of players that they draft. You know, there's probably some people like a Parsons We talked about that, and that looks like, you know, a great situation here. This felt like this was a as it was just as it was described to me. Do you know how hard it is to get kicked out of LSU? That was literally how it was described to me. And I'm not saying I came in with bias as well as it relates to Kelvin Jose. Guys didn't get kicked at LSU. It's hard. But to your point of they invited they invited him to Lea when the LSU come, hey man, you're too hot for us. It's in Kentucky the basketball school. Hey man, thanks, thanks, and what sounds it wasn't like he was tearing it up on the field in college. Either he had the measurables, but he wasn't, you know, stinctly coming out of Kentucky. Or We've talked about this many times. The thing I keep going back to is like even in training camp, you just didn't see. That's what I'm saying. And that's when I go back to like he don't make play he made He's made no plays and I give him credit. He got his hands on the ball against the Colts, right, that's the first time I see him get his hands on the ball. Okay, but this was the Colts. Okay, whatever again, preseason training camp and see him leading him, see him get his hands on the ball. Uh, my questions and and and and My thing is that even before the incident, he was horrible off the field. Last year, he was horrible. Showed up with all that stuff, all that bag of dollaric questions, and he still let them down. It was a disappointment off the field as well as on the field of the rookie Okay, and then you know, the thing happened. It may it may have been a wake up call for him, probably one that he didn't deserve based on the circumstances and everything had happened, But the Cowboys gave him that extra opportunity. Just by all accounts, they say he's done the right things on the field, work, ethic and all the other stuff, and and Quinn and everybody's talked about this. Certainly he's been a great player on special teams. But again, canny do any cornerback. Canny do it on the field. And I just keep going to you have a golden opportunity to take this job, because Anthony Brown's contract is up this year, right, so you have the opportunity. They try to give him a job last year. And I'm not saying play through sickness, but there are certain guys on this team, like Michael Parsons. If he had an opportunity to start, when he's just been sitting on this roster on special teams, you better believe that he would be out here with a diaper on playing. I truly feel that way about about Micap. Now, not everyone's built like that, and I'm not saying you should. And I don't know what his illness is, so I don't want to be unfair here, but you have a golden opportunity. I don't know if I've seen him rise, well, well, there's two things on that occasions, but there's two things on that. Everyone's hoping I see that, but there's there's two things on that. Because even if he wanted to come out here with the illness, I'm keeping him away because I don't want because it's gone through the locker room. I don't want him get I don't want to saying I don't want to get in the weeds about I don't want to get anybody, and I don't know what his illness is, so want to be fair on that. But McCarthy said it's the same thing he had a couple of weeks ago. It's like a flu bug that's gone around with his COVID or flu I don't I don't think COVID twice in a month. But well, let's right, let's rise out of that and go up. My point in bringing it up is in the opportunities that he's had a moment to step up, I haven't quite seen him do no. And so to your point, I'd rather go with a veteran like Sheffield, who at least has familiarity with dan Quinn's defense. He's a veteran. I'd feel a lot better with going some of those guys. You kind of feel like you would want to give him. He deserves an opportunity. Yeah, and when you want to give it to him right now, play against Houston, play against Jacksonville, will see what you have. If you're not there, like a Sheffield or somebody that dan Quinn's obviously been around, maybe that's where you work him in more against the Eagles or something like that. But I think they want to see him. Hey, we'd love to see Calvin Joseph for a full game, play that one side and see what he can do. And we and we all know whether they're gonna go after him. They're gonna attack him, So we'll see what he says there. Chris Canny of the ESPN former Dallas, I'm interested on this. When you tease that, I was like, oh, I haven't heard this. We got here. So Canny goes on the Get Up Show and he says the Cowboys lose to the Bucks in the playoffs. McCarthy is getting fired, and I tweeted back to him. I said, oh, my goodness, my guy, Chris Canny calls from McCarthy's firing get the Cowboys losing the Bucks in the playoffs. I said, you know, Jerry Jones operates in context. And then Chris hit me back on Twitter said, yeah, I said it. Cowboys can't be one and done two years in a row with this kind of talent on the team. Context matters. But Jerry ain't buying green bananas. What is the problem? What he said? What is the problem? What he said? Well, I'll make an argument, but well, I guess the argument is this. Let's be honest about this now, We love what they're doing right now, but if they go one and done in the playoffs, it's not gonna be happy time because it was not. It was not happy times last year. It's not gonna be happy times around here. So I don't okay what you're doing the regular season, go twelve and five and go thirteen and three. If they go down there and lose to Tampa in the playoffs, all bets are off on Mike McCarthy's day. I don't think there's many coaches that would have gotten them to their current record of nine and three. You're raising their left point and there's not a lot of coaches that can deal with everything that I actually is talking to Anthony Barr about coming here and how different is Randall Cops. But it is a different world here, and so I I love, I really like Mike McCarthy. Car finish well, look at what Sean McVay is doing in the absence of Matthew Stafford. Look at what the Colts are doing in the absence of having a guy like matt Ryan. Credit to Mike McCarthy, say what you will, whether he delegates, whether how much credit you want to give to him. He's got two winning seasons, he's gotten into the playoffs. And Jane, that's when I talk about the context right of this. Did you simply say, oh, you lost Tampa Bay? How did you lose? What's the context? Hard to win everything? That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying Chris Kenny's gonna be wrong. What I'm saying is Jerry will operate in the context. Lord knows, he kept figuring out ways to give Jason Garrett one more than that, and and and Jason, Jason and the family photo. He wasn't a family photo. Mike McCarthy is not. But but but again the bar photo though, But you say that, But I think Jerry would rather hang out Mike McCarthy. To be honest, I understand about Stephen. My point of the relationship was longer and deeper. He'd wanted to give him a chance. But but but Mike McCarthy was brought here to be better than Jason Garrett. To go one and done, even if you go back to back playoffs, is not better than Jason Garrett. Okay. He was brought here to take the cowboy to the next level, to go and lose in the first round, to a bad type of Bay team. I don't care what the context is. You know, people that toime Bay team is bad Tom Brady even when he looked at that Saints gape. You give that guy just two minutes in a game. Saints are awful. The other factor in here, there was that three points in the fourth quarter. Of the other part is who's available. You don't just fire head coach. We just need something new in here, hold on, get to it content. But I'm saying, if he thinks that, you say that, you say that, but then what if what if the defense starts looking awful? And what if they lose that game? Because Micah Parson was that linebacker the whole time and you should have been a DN like, she's not gonna be just over there. It's I'm just saying it's not going to be as simple as you it's just like, okay, well then he's gone and gone. There There is, like we said, there is context, who like, how did they lose the game. What's going on? Where's the team going? Why? Why is this happening? Like there's there's it's not gonna be just okay, what's the final score? Okay? There, Mike, get your stuff. You're right, there's no right or wrong answers here. The bottom line is this, and I've said it all year. We've talked about this year. I've talked to other people about this. Mike has done a great job. Jerry the game, and we're talking already about Mike mccarthurin point he brought this up, love j but no, he didn't bring you. Brought it and brought it to the show. Okay, So, but the bottom the bottom line is this. No matter what happens this season, the playoffs is what matters. Okay, Mike talked about it. The players talked about this, because what happens in the playoffs if you go one and done, all bets are off. He I'm not saying it's a guarantee fires, but there's no guarantees coming back either if you go one and done the play Chris Kenny is not wrong. Okay, Okay, And again, Mike has done a great job. I like how he's I like how he handled the media. Stay here. What if another team wanted Mike. Mike loves it here, his family loves it. I think Mike's having a great time. I mean, we just we've talked to him every I mean, I wish you coming on Fridays. We talked every Friday after but you I know you work too much and you do too much. I get up at six in the morningful game that I know you can't come on Fridays. Understand, But were talking about Mike has settled in here he is, But if you don't think there's another team that's calling it Mike, Mike likes Dallas, his family love you Dallas. And you know what, this is a great stopping point because Jane's got her podcast coming up the top of the hour. We are at a time. So thank you, Clarence Hill. The four worth Star Telegram John m showed, I appreciate your your five percent. You got to get in. I'm sorry for the Atlantic And that's Jane slaying the NFL media. You've got another forty five minutes in which you could dominate and on the show, since it's just a scirls talking on, you know what, I would like to see Clarence step into there, step in our world. Clarence. Yeah, Clarence, you stepped right on in exclusively. It's the media match. We'll talk to you tomorrow right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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