What's all the argy-bargy about the magazine with Margie? What does "leaning in" mean? And the one big problem with binging watching TV.
Show notes
Rebecca Sparrow weighs in on that Margie Abbott headline
More on Leaning In, for anyone that missed it the first time.
We welcome the new Bachelor: Sam Wood.
The toilet paper economic indicator
The book: Nice Girls Don't Get The Corner Office 
Mia wants you to watch Scandal so she can talk about it with you.
She also has House of Cards and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt on her list.
Here's how binge TV is ruining things for everyone.
The show's facebook page is here
And keep an ear out for the new podcast launching later this week: it's called Just Between Us.

What's all the argy-bargy about the magazine with Margie? What does "leaning in" mean? And the one big problem with binging watching TV.
<ul>
<li>Show notes</li>
<li><a href="http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/margie-abbotts-weight/">Rebecca Sparrow weighs in on that Margie Abbot</a>t headline</li>
<li><a href="http://www.mamamia.com.au/social/facebook-coo-young-women-are-wrecking-their-careers-way-before-having-kids/">More on Leaning In</a>, for anyone that missed it the first time.</li>
<li>We welcome <a href="http://www.mamamia.com.au/entertainment/sam-wood-is-the-2015-bachelor/">the new Bachelor</a>: Sam Wood.</li>
<li>The <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/13/what-the-rise-of-luxury-toilet-paper-says-about-the-economy/">toilet paper economic indicator</a></li>
<li>The book: <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/97641.Nice_Girls_Don_t_Get_the_Corner_Office">Nice Girls Don't Get The Corner Office </a></li>
<li>Mia wants you to watch <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1837576/">Scandal</a> so she can talk about it with you.</li>
<li>She also has <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1856010/?ref_=nv_sr_1">House of Cards</a> and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3339966/?ref_=nv_sr_1">Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt </a>on her list.</li>
<li>Here's how <a href="https://medium.com/message/how-netflix-broke-the-unbreakable-spoiler-alert-f0215bf930cf">binge TV is ruining things for everyone</a>.</li>
<li>The show's <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mamamiaoutloud">facebook page is here</a></li>
<li>And keep an ear out for the new podcast launching later this week: it's called Just Between Us.</li>
</ul>

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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What's all the argy-bargy about the magazine with Margie? What does "leaning in" mean? And the one big problem with binging watching TV.

Show notes
Rebecca Sparrow weighs in on that Margie Abbott headline
More on Leaning In, for anyone that...

WTF does "leaning in" mean?

Yes, it’s Good Friday but we’re being bad and bringing you a show anyway. First point of business is Clare Stephens’ elitist Easter egg power ranking Do you agree with her controversial Number One? 

Plus, we’re deep-diving into the Enneagram personality type obsession currently ruining our lives. It seems every A-lister and podcaster is sharing their 'number', so hold our beer. Holly is grumpy about being a 'Peacemaker' 9, Clare is proudly an 'Investigator' 5, and Emily Vernem is a Type 3 Achiever — which apparently means she’s one bad day away from becoming a psychopath. But are Enneagrams just star signs for the self-optimisation era?

Also, Em has a very strict list of things you must never do in the hour before a date (hint: checking social media is a dopamine-killing trap). From 'gambling with dairy' to the peril of last-minute eyebrow tints, we’re sharing chaotic pre-date disasters. 

And, we’re asking the very important question: What would you queue for? 

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Recommendations

Em recommendsYoung Sherlockon Prime Video.

Clare recommends The Gambler: A Vince Reid PI Thriller by J.P. Pomare.

Holly recommends The Nocturnals by Frances Whiting.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Yes, it&rsquo;s Good Friday but we&rsquo;re being bad and bringing you a show anyway. First point of business is Clare Stephens&rsquo; elitist Easter egg power ranking Do you agree with her controversial Number One?&nbsp;
Plus, we&rsquo;re deep-diving into the Enneagram personality type obsession currently ruining our lives. It seems every A-lister and podcaster is sharing their 'number', so hold our beer. Holly is grumpy about being a 'Peacemaker' 9, Clare is proudly an 'Investigator' 5, and Emily Vernem is a Type 3 Achiever &mdash; which apparently means she&rsquo;s one bad day away from becoming a psychopath. But are Enneagrams just star signs for the self-optimisation era?
Also, Em has a very strict list of things you must never do in the hour before a date (hint: checking social media is a dopamine-killing trap). From 'gambling with dairy' to the peril of last-minute eyebrow tints, we&rsquo;re sharing chaotic pre-date disasters.&nbsp;
And, we&rsquo;re asking the very important question: What would you queue for?&nbsp;
To find out your Enneagram, take the test here; <a href="https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test" aria-describedby="sk-tooltip-12931">https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test</a>
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Recommendations
Em recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4bYF4n8">Young Sherlock</a> on Prime Video.
Clare recommends <a href="https://fave.co/40ZsH5f">The Gambler: A Vince Reid PI Thriller</a> by J.P. Pomare.
Holly recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4tbFOMy">The Nocturnals</a> by Frances Whiting.
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/modern-dating-rules/">'These 6 first-date rules shouldn't be controversial, but apparently are.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/easter-eggs-australia/">A definitive ranking of mini Easter eggs from bloody incredible to downright disgusting.</a></li>
</ul>
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The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You

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An Instagram post asked working mothers for their tips on juggling, and the comments section rebelled. Which is proof that in the last week of a school term, with the holiday/work pressure building, we are not in the mood for helpful hacks, we are in the mood for burning the whole thing down. So, how and why and when did the 'how do you do it all?' bubble burst?

Plus, Amelia Lester is here to help us pick through the chaos of Washington for anything that looks like a golden glimmer in a pile of poo. And some of the optimism is coming from some very unexpected corners. So, we’re unpacking: what happens when the 'worst person you know' actually makes a great point?

And in other business, butter. Just lots and lots of it. From 'butter-dipped' soft serves at the Royal Easter Show to parents on TikTok feeding their kids whole sticks of the stuff for 'brain fuel', it’s being hailed as the new superfood. So, is butter the new avocado? 

Oh, and, the clitoris has finally been mapped, but will that make it any easier for some to find? And Kris Jenner is the latest manifesting good luck symbol for an ambitious generation. Yup. You read that right.

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Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

An Instagram post asked working mothers for their tips on juggling, and the comments section rebelled. Which is proof that in the last week of a school term, with the holiday/work pressure building, we are not in the mood for helpful hacks, we are in the mood for burning the whole thing down. So, how and why and when did the 'how do you do it all?' bubble burst?
Plus, Amelia Lester is here to help us pick through the chaos of Washington for anything that looks like a golden glimmer in a pile of poo. And some of the optimism is coming from some very unexpected corners. So, we&rsquo;re unpacking: what happens when the 'worst person you know' actually makes a great point?
And in other business, butter. Just lots and lots of it. From 'butter-dipped' soft serves at the Royal Easter Show to parents on TikTok feeding their kids whole sticks of the stuff for 'brain fuel', it&rsquo;s being hailed as the new superfood. So, is butter the new avocado?&nbsp;
Oh, and, the clitoris has finally been mapped, but will that make it any easier for some to find? And Kris Jenner is the latest manifesting good luck symbol for an ambitious generation. Yup. You read that right.
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The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Good Point

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Zendaya and Robert Pattinson are on a press tour, and the Internet’s calling them ‘classy’ because they’re not pretending to be in lust. Instead, they’re giving each other high-fives like they’re at a corporate seminar. Have we just witnessed the death of the 'fauxmance'?

Plus, in the US, a 20-year-old woman has won a landmark case against YouTube and Meta. She accused the tech billionaires of 'engineering addiction' and ruining her childhood in the process. Their punishment is negligible, so why is this moment being called social media’s ‘Big Tobacco’ moment? And is it a reason for Australia to feel smug about our child social media ban? 

In other business, a new biography of Queen Elizabeth II is shattering the 'cuddly grandma' illusion. Why are we so obsessed with minimising the most powerful women in history into just 'nice old ladies'?

Also, anyone want to go to the Evil Ex-Situationship Boxing Rave? Welcome to the particular hell of organised fun. 

And Emily, Holly, and Clare discuss the Boomer Hospital reveal. Otherwise known as why your mum waits until five minutes into the phone call to tell you dad’s in the ER. 

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What to read: 
All the lies Robert Pattinson has ever told.
Queen Elizabeth II has died. Her passing marks the end of an extraordinary era.
Fellow Millenials, enough with the 'OK Boomer', already. It's embarrassing.

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Zendaya and Robert Pattinson are on a press tour, and the Internet&rsquo;s calling them &lsquo;classy&rsquo; because they&rsquo;re not pretending to be in lust. Instead, they&rsquo;re giving each other high-fives like they&rsquo;re at a corporate seminar. Have we just witnessed the death of the 'fauxmance'?
Plus, in the US, a 20-year-old woman has won a landmark case against YouTube and Meta. She accused the tech billionaires of 'engineering addiction' and ruining her childhood in the process. Their punishment is negligible, so why is this moment being called social media&rsquo;s &lsquo;Big Tobacco&rsquo; moment? And is it a reason for Australia to feel smug about our child social media ban?&nbsp;
In other business, a new biography of Queen Elizabeth II is shattering the 'cuddly grandma' illusion. Why are we so obsessed with minimising the most powerful women in history into just 'nice old ladies'?
Also, anyone want to go to the Evil Ex-Situationship Boxing Rave? Welcome to the particular hell of organised fun.&nbsp;
And Emily, Holly, and Clare discuss the Boomer Hospital reveal. Otherwise known as why your mum waits until five minutes into the phone call to tell you dad&rsquo;s in the ER.&nbsp;
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