Holly Wainwright finds Laurie Anderson’s three rules for life inspiring. Em Vernem finds them embarrassing - so cue a generational war in today’s episode.

Plus, The Guardian has named the five types of people ruining conversations, from the serial monologuer to the trauma dumper. Holly, Jessie and Em have met every one of them, and one is hated more than the rest.

Also, Jessie has found a recruiter who says to never walk into a job interview holding this one diverse item. We debate whether its a fair accessory or a power play.

And, the New York Times ranks the 100 best TV shows of the century and we have all your reccos for the long weekend.

Recommendations

Holly recommends How To Be Hopeful by Caitlin Moran

Jessie recommends Vinted for all your second hand shopping. 

Em recommends the new movie Digger with Tom Cruise.

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