Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation — Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat— at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE.

When an Outlouder named Vanessa sent in a dilemma asking if she should quit her job, she did something risky: she name-checked Mia Freedman.

Vanessa has been a listener for seven years and has Mia’s voice on a loop in her head — the one that says women should always keep working to protect their super and their sanity. But with a second kid, a husband who has "signed a deal with the devil" for his career, and a workload that feels like a full-body squirm, Vanessa's wondering if it’s time to 'Nup' out of the workforce entirely.

On today’s subscriber episode, Mia is joined by Amelia Lester to unpack the 'breastfeeding brain trap', the 'childcare cheat code', Amelia's trailing wife era, the big career myth — and the cold, hard reality of the working-mother math.

Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.

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