When Protein-maxxing meets Queue Culture: Someone decided frozen yoghurt is the new juice and now there are lines around the block.

Put your phone down and sit on a Scrolly Chair.

How A-listers decide who sits where on a talk show and what it tells you about your dinner out. Also, why does Holly want the centre pod chair so bad?

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Recommendations

Mia recommends: A hairdryer diffuser, and Colour Wow Dream Coat For Curly Hair. 

Em recommends: Ride or Die, a buddy comedy series starring Hannah Waddingham and Octavia Spencer. All 8 episodes are out on Prime Video. 

Holly recommends: Her latest lip obsessions: Model Co. Sheer Tint Lip Balm in Girl Boss $15.40. Mecca Max Pout Pencil in classy with some clear lip balm over the top - or Dr Lipp Lip Tint in Elderberry

AND for spenny - Violette FR - Lip Nectar in Pois De Senteur $48 - a gloss AND a stain. 

Oh, and… The Weights Program on Move by Mamamia. 

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• 'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.'
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Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Emily Vernem

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