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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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Also, can you wear soft pants to dinner? Take your undrunk drinks home? Show everyone pictures of your kid your phone? We unpack the (latest) latest etiquette rules. 

And, what really happened at the White House Correspondents’ dinner and why does no-one want to believe it?

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So there was a famous handsome man in the Mamamia office today and Holly&rsquo;s a bit giddy.&nbsp;
But also. Russell Brand&rsquo;s most-memed moment of a wild career might turn out to be what happened in a live interview this week. But why is he suddenly talking? About sex, about Katy Perry, about his day in court?&nbsp;
REMEMBER: All Mamamia subscribers get extra episodes of Out Loud. On Tuesdays and Thursdays, Mia, Holly and Em Vernem go rogue, just for you.&nbsp; Subscribe <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">HERE</a>.
Also, can you wear soft pants to dinner? Take your undrunk drinks home? Show everyone pictures of your kid your phone? We unpack the (latest) latest etiquette rules.&nbsp;
And, what really happened at the White House Correspondents&rsquo; dinner and why does no-one want to believe it?
Plus: Why one star walked out of the White Lotus after two days.&nbsp;
SUBSCRIPTION GIVEAWAY:&nbsp;Win a $2,000 Bed Threads voucher.<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/bed-threads-voucher-giveaway/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=giveaways&amp;utm_content=bed-threads"> Subscribe to Mamamia here</a> before April 30 to be automatically entered. Current subscriber? You're already in the draw.<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/subscriber-giveaway-bed-threads-5688743"> T&amp;Cs apply</a>.
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/rules-of-etiquette-australia/">'A modern etiquette guide is going viral. But Australians? All you need are these 19 rules.'</a></li>
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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Emily Vernem on our subscribers only episode.&nbsp; You can listen to the full conversation: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/scurrilous-gossip-harry-zoe/">'Scurrilous Gossip: An Engagement, An Affair &amp; A Royal F-You' here.</a>&nbsp;
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Harry Styles is engaged and the man has chosen wisely. So how did he and fellow serial monogamist Zoe Kravitz tell everyone that yes, the search is off.
Millennial icon Lena Dunham&rsquo;s memoir&nbsp;Famesick finally addresses the very famous man she dated for years and the 'teenage pop star' who got blamed for their split.
And&hellip; a Royal Update: Charles and Trump&rsquo;s lipreading row, Harry&rsquo;s (next) fake royal tour and what Princess Kate did on ANZAC Day.
🔷 Did you know Mamamia&nbsp; subscribers get an all-access pass to every episode of Mamamia Out Loud including excclusive episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays PLUS articles, videos and our exercise app, MOVE? If not, what are you waiting for - <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/?utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=podcast&amp;utm_content=subs-teaser">subscribe now!</a> 
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/too-much-netflix-true-story/">After her high-profile split, Lena Dunham escaped to London. What happened next inspired Too Much.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/girls-lena-dunham/">'It's been 10 years since Girls hit screens. I'll never forget how it made me feel.'</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/adam-driver-marriage-story/"></a></li>
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FREE SUBS TASTER: Scurrilous Gossip: An Engagement, An Affair & A Royal F-You

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It’s a public holiday Monday for some, but because we love you, we’re not leaving you high and dry.  We’ve picked a conversation straight from the Outlouders Facebook group that had everyone unpacking their own family dynamics: the dreaded – or in some cases beloved – family group chat.

Holly, Clare and Em are diving into a dilemma from an Outlouder who has implemented a ‘new regime’ called The Sunday Roast. The rules? Every Sunday, every family member must text their weekly highs and lows along with three photos. No explanations needed, but follow-up questions are mandatory.

So, is this a beautiful way to keep the family connected, or an administrative nightmare that makes you want to tap out? 

Plus, we have some bonus reccos and things we can't stop thinking about including micro-holidays, ‘Monthly 10s’ by Julianna Salguero and Nagi’s Miso Eggplant recipe. You’re welcome.

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Listen: Mia's Uncomfortable Aha Moment About Friendship
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Modern Etiquette: The 21 group chat rules you’re definitely breaking.
There are 7 types of people in a group chat. If you’re number 3, you owe your friends an apology.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

It&rsquo;s a public holiday Monday for some, but because we love you, we&rsquo;re not leaving you high and dry.&nbsp; We&rsquo;ve picked a conversation straight from the Outlouders Facebook group that had everyone unpacking their own family dynamics: the dreaded &ndash; or in some cases beloved &ndash; family group chat.
Holly, Clare and Em are diving into a dilemma from an Outlouder who has implemented a &lsquo;new regime&rsquo; called The Sunday Roast. The rules? Every Sunday, every family member must text their weekly highs and lows along with three photos. No explanations needed, but follow-up questions are mandatory.
So, is this a beautiful way to keep the family connected, or an administrative nightmare that makes you want to tap out?&nbsp;
Plus, we have some bonus reccos and things we can't stop thinking about including micro-holidays, &lsquo;<a href="https://substack.com/@juliannasalguero">Monthly 10s</a>&rsquo; by Julianna Salguero and <a href="https://www.recipetineats.com/miso-glazed-eggplant/">Nagi&rsquo;s Miso Eggplant</a> recipe. You&rsquo;re welcome.
🔷 DID YOU KNOW? Mamamia&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">subscribers</a> get an all-access pass to everything we make, including exclusive Out Loud episodes, plus articles, videos and our exercise app, MOVE. 
SUBSCRIBE here: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
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