If you thought extravagant debutante balls were a Bridgerton thing of the past, think again. One happened in France over the weekend and it was Bridgerton, meets Coldplay and Goop. Here's why. 

Plus, is bringing a baby into the office a form of psychological harassment? We discuss a new take on what workplace safety actually means — and why gossiping at work just got an image makeover.  

Also, the anatomy of a rumour. Divorce watch for Harry and Meghan is on, according to Hollywood headlines. But why, how and where do such rumours even begin? 

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Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

If you thought extravagant debutante balls were a Bridgerton thing of the past, think again. One happened in France over the weekend and it was Bridgerton, meets Coldplay and Goop. Here's why. 
Plus, is bringing a baby into the office a form of psychological harassment? We discuss a new take on what workplace safety actually means — and why gossiping at work just got an image makeover.  
Also, the anatomy of a rumour. Divorce watch for Harry and Meghan is on, according to Hollywood headlines. But why, how and where do such rumours even begin? 
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<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/family-wedding-tax">Sexy Movie Night With Mummy</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/grief-at-christmas/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Christmas Grief, Cozzie Livs &amp; Finding Joy</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/wicked-movie">Holding Space For My 'Wicked' Vulva</a></li>
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<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/meghan-markle-prince-harry-divorce/">Here's what's really fuelling the Meghan Markle and Prince Harry divorce story.</a></li>
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Harry & Meghan: Anatomy Of A Divorce Rumour

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Merry Christmas, Outlouders! If you need a break from family and festivities then this is the episode for you. 

In 2023, Jessie and Clare Stephens decided enough was enough. Someone needed to put Christmas on trial. Because while the festive season can be great, it's also stressful, overwhelming and quite frankly, a lot of pressure to be merry and bright.

Today, Jessie invites you into the Cancelled courtroom to put Christmas through its paces. From over-committed schedules, to being too focused on kids and feeling kind of repetitive, there are plenty of reasons why this is a lazy gewls least favourite holiday. 

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CREDITS:
Hosts: Clare and Jessie Stephens

Executive Producer: Talissa Bazaz 

Audio Producer: Thom Lion

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Merry Christmas, Outlouders! If you need a break from family and festivities then this is the episode for you.&nbsp; In 2023, Jessie and Clare Stephens decided enough was enough. Someone needed to put Christmas on trial. Because while the festive season can be great, it's also stressful, overwhelming and quite frankly, a lot of pressure to be merry and bright. Today, Jessie invites you into the Cancelled courtroom to put Christmas through its paces. From over-committed schedules, to being too focused on kids and feeling kind of repetitive, there are plenty of reasons why this is a lazy gewls least favourite holiday.&nbsp;
GET IN TOUCH: Got a great Lazy Gewl story? Or some feedback? We&rsquo;re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:podcast@mamamia.com.au">podcast@mamamia.com.au</a>
CREDITS: Hosts:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thetwins_thoughts/?hl=en%C2%A0">Clare and Jessie Stephens</a>
Executive Producer: Talissa Bazaz&nbsp;
Audio Producer: Thom Lion
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

A Cancelled Girls' Guide To Christmas 

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“We can bury anyone: Inside a Hollywood smear machine”.

That’s the New York Times headline that meant, holiday or no holiday, we were definitely bringing you a show today. 

Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni made headlines just a few months ago for their roles in one of the year’s most-watched films, It Ends With Us. But what was happening off-screen turned out to be an even bigger story.

In this emergency meeting of Out Loud, Mia, Jessie and Holly unpack the facts behind Blake's legal complaint against her co-star and director Justin, which alleges sexual harassment and an orchestrated campaign to destroy her reputation.

Plus, what this lawsuit means for Hollywood power dynamics, celebrity reputations, and the way narratives are shaped online.

This story has implications far beyond a single movie. It’s about the intersection of art, accountability, and the manipulation of public perception in the digital age. Join us as we break it all down.

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Listen to our latest episode: Meghan & Harry, Sam Armytage & Run Clubs: 2025 Predictions 
Listen: The Takedown Of Blake Lively
Listen: Confessions Of The Social Media Lurkers
Listen: The Breakup Text We Got This Week
Listen:  Get The F*ck Out Of Our Village (Please)
Listen: The Trends We Want To Return (Or Die For Good)
Listen: Jay-Z And An Audacious Family PR Strategy
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 
Read the New York Times Article: ‘We Can Bury Anyone’: Inside a Hollywood Smear Machine
Read Blake Lively's Legal Complaint 
1800RESPECT is the national domestic, family and sexual violence counselling, information and support service. Call 1800RESPECT (1800 737 732).

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What to read:
The internet owes Blake Lively an apology
Sexual harassment, a smear campaign and text messages. Inside Blake Lively's lawsuit against Justin Baldoni. 
Blake Lively isn't the first women to be demonised online.
Blake Lively isn't the problem

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Scott Stronach

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

&ldquo;We can bury anyone: Inside a Hollywood smear machine&rdquo;. 
That&rsquo;s the&nbsp;New York Times headline that meant, holiday or no holiday, we were definitely bringing you a show today.&nbsp;
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni made headlines just a few months ago for their roles in one of the year&rsquo;s most-watched films, It Ends With Us. But what was happening off-screen turned out to be an even bigger story.
In this emergency meeting of Out Loud, Mia, Jessie and Holly unpack the facts behind Blake's legal complaint against her co-star and director Justin, which alleges sexual harassment and an orchestrated campaign to destroy her reputation.
Plus, what this lawsuit means for Hollywood power dynamics, celebrity reputations, and the way narratives are shaped online.
This story has implications far beyond a single movie. It&rsquo;s about the intersection of art, accountability, and the manipulation of public perception in the digital age. Join us as we break it all down.
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
<a href="https://www.outloudlive.com.au/">Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular&nbsp;</a>
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/2025-predictions">Meghan &amp; Harry, Sam Armytage &amp; Run Clubs: 2025 Predictions</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/blake-lively-controversy/">The Takedown Of Blake Lively</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/social-media-lurkers/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Confessions Of The Social Media Lurkers</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/breakup-over-text-advice/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Breakup Text We Got This Week</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/village-community-raising-children">&nbsp;Get The F*ck Out Of Our Village (Please)</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/in-and-out-list-trends/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Trends We Want To Return (Or Die For Good)</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jay-z-allegations">Jay-Z And An Audacious Family PR Strategy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>
The End Bits:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Read the New York Times Article:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/business/media/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us.html">&lsquo;We Can Bury Anyone&rsquo;: Inside a Hollywood Smear Machine</a></li>
<li>Read <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/12/21/us/complaint-of-blake-lively-v-wayfarer-studios-llc-et-al.html">Blake Lively's Legal Complaint </a></li>
<li>1800RESPECT&nbsp;is the&nbsp;national domestic, family and sexual violence counselling, information and support service. Call 1800RESPECT (1800 737 732).</li>
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What to read:
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<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/blake-lively-apology/">The internet owes Blake Lively an apology</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit/">Sexual harassment, a smear campaign and text messages. Inside Blake Lively's lawsuit against Justin Baldoni.&nbsp;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/women-who-have-been-demonised">Blake Lively isn't the first women to be demonised online.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/it-ends-with-us-domestic-violence">Blake Lively isn't the problem</a></li>
</ul>
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Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Production: Scott Stronach
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Emergency Meeting: The Blake Lively Smear Campaign Unpacked

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Outlouders the end of the year is almost upon us! Which is why we are sharing this particular Sunday Special with you. 

When you’re feeling exhausted - like so many of us are - what do you do? Most of us think we need more sleep. But, it turns out, sleep and rest are not the same thing. In fact, we can be tired in different ways, and each one of those ways requires a different kind of rest.

In this episode of No Filter, Mia talks to Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith about the 7 different kinds of rest that will prevent you from burning out and help you show up to your life with all the energy you need.

Take Saundra’s Free Rest Quiz here.

Saundra’s book “Sacred Rest: is available here.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Outlouders the end of the year is almost upon us! Which is why we are sharing this particular Sunday Special with you. When you&rsquo;re feeling exhausted - like so many of us are - what do you do? Most of us think we need more sleep. But, it turns out, sleep and rest are not the same thing. In fact, we can be tired in different ways, and each one of those ways requires a different kind of rest.
In this episode of No Filter, Mia talks to Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith about the 7 different kinds of rest that will prevent you from burning out and help you show up to your life with all the energy you need. Take Saundra&rsquo;s Free Rest Quiz&nbsp;<a href="https://www.restquiz.com/quiz/rest-quiz-test/">here.</a>
Saundra&rsquo;s book &ldquo;Sacred Rest: is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.drdaltonsmith.com/publications">available here.</a>
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=black-friday&amp;code=OUTLOUDFRIDAY">Support independent women's media</a>
THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/">here</a>&nbsp;and follow us on Instagram&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nofiltermamamia/">here.</a> Discover<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/" data-stringify-link="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">&nbsp;more Mamamia podcasts here</a>. Feedback:&nbsp;<a href="mailto:podcast@mamamia.com.au" data-stringify-link="mailto:podcast@mamamia.com.au" data-sk="tooltip_parent" aria-haspopup="menu">podcast@mamamia.com.au</a> Share your story, feedback, or dilemma!&nbsp;<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-stringify-link="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Send us a voice message</a>, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click&nbsp;Go To Show&nbsp;then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review. &nbsp; CREDITS: Host: Mia Freedman You can find Mia on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/miafreedman/?hl=en">&nbsp;Instagram here</a>&nbsp;and get her<a href="https://miafreedman.substack.com/">&nbsp;newsletter here.</a> Producers: Kimberley Braddish &amp; Naima Brown Audio Producer: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

SUNDAY SPECIAL: Mia Recommends The Seven Types of Rest

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