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Trump got a really good birthday present, we’re not sure what it might cost us. 

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First order of business: Clare has an apology for the Socceroos. Sort of.&nbsp;
Also: A sliding scale of Gwyneth Paltrow&rsquo;s recent &ldquo;bold&rdquo; decisions, from the silly to the shocking.&nbsp;
Trump got a really good birthday present, we&rsquo;re not sure what it might cost us.&nbsp;
And, are Australians going to have to let go of swimming in the open ocean?&nbsp;
Plus: A very Beckham weekend culminated in failed bid for sibling reconciliation - in a very public place.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-off-campus-sex/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">THAT Sex Scene in Off Campus. Oh.</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/victoria-beckham-red-flags/">'Oh Victoria, your husband is not on your team.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/videos/video/does-the-average-australian-know-this-about-shark-attacks-mamamia-out-loud/">Does the average Australian know this about shark attacks?</a></li>
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Um, WTF Is Going On With Gwyneth & A Very Beckham Weekend

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Do you share a bathroom with your partner? Rita Wilson says that's the key to her 38 year marriage to Tom Hanks. Meghan Trainor agrees, while Michelle Obama is completely anti the idea. Clare, Em & Amelia are unpacking why a shared bathroom might actually be the ultimate test of relationship maturity. It’s a hard no from Em.

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Recommendations

Em recommendsNot Suitable For Workon Disney +.

Clare recommends Glazing Milk by Rhode Skin.

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Acting Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Do you share a bathroom with your partner? Rita Wilson says that's the key to her 38 year marriage to Tom Hanks. Meghan Trainor agrees, while Michelle Obama is completely anti the idea. Clare, Em &amp; Amelia are unpacking why a shared bathroom might actually be the ultimate test of relationship maturity. It&rsquo;s a hard no from Em.
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Also, there's a new type of influencer making money by simply having no friends. So, is there something problematic about romanticising social isolation, or is filming your solo life a genuine quest for human connection? We discuss.
Plus, &lsquo;You look good for your age&rsquo; is meant to be the ultimate compliment, but actually&hellip; is it?&nbsp;
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Recommendations
Em recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4ojAdmn">Not Suitable For Work</a> on Disney +.
Clare&nbsp;recommends <a href="https://fave.co/3RVDb4d">Glazing Milk</a> by Rhode Skin.
Amelia recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4uXdjU1">Widows Bay</a> on Apple TV.
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/bali-adults-only-resort">'I accidentally found the perfect Bali holiday for women who are completely exhausted.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/somatic-sex-therapy-women">SEX DIARIES: 'The controversial way I found out what good sex should feel like.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/cleo-smith-now-what-happened">It's been five years since Cleo Smith was abducted from a campsite. This is her life now.</a></li>
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Acting Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray
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The Celebrity Bathroom Debate We Can't Agree On

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Sometimes you just need an impromptu therapy session with absolutely no professionals present. From the adult who calls their parents by their first names to the person who orders a salad at a pub, Clare, Amelia and Em are unpacking the exact types of people we just don’t trust.

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Australia’s fertility rate has sunk to a record low, but researchers swear they’ve found the one simple trick to get women to have more babies. It does involve your home office’s proximity to the bedroom, but not quite in the way you might think.

Plus, how are powerful women like Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan still being target with 300 year old Salem tropes like ‘Ditch The Witch’? Julia Gillard, like us, has thoughts.

Also, Madonna just dropped a star-studded 10-minute musical short film called Confessions II.  We’re breaking down every single celebrity cameo you might have missed.

And, we explain the reason why Taylor Swift, Timothée Chalamet and Ben Stiller are in orange and blue all over your social media feed.

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Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

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HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Want to start a fight in 3 words? Work from home.
The real reason less of us are having babies in 2025.
Your 5-minute news explainer to get you up to date on June 9, 2026.

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Sometimes you just need an impromptu therapy session with absolutely no professionals present. From the adult who calls their parents by their first names to the person who orders a salad at a pub, Clare, Amelia and Em are unpacking the exact types of people we just don&rsquo;t trust.
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Australia&rsquo;s fertility rate has sunk to a record low, but researchers swear they&rsquo;ve found the one simple trick to get women to have more babies. It does involve your home office&rsquo;s proximity to the bedroom, but not quite in the way you might think.
Plus, how are powerful women like Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan still being target with 300 year old Salem tropes like &lsquo;Ditch The Witch&rsquo;? Julia Gillard, like us, has thoughts.
Also, Madonna just dropped a star-studded 10-minute musical short film called Confessions II.&nbsp; We&rsquo;re breaking down every single celebrity cameo you might have missed.
And, we explain the reason why Taylor Swift, Timoth&eacute;e Chalamet and Ben Stiller are in orange and blue all over your social media feed.
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<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-aussie-families-birth-rate-middle-child/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Sorry Clare. There&rsquo;s No Better Time To NOT Have A Baby</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/declining-birth-rate/">The real reason less of us are having babies in 2025.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/the-quicky-news-headlines-09-06-2026/">Your 5-minute news explainer to get you up to date on June 9, 2026.</a></li>
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Two big weddings happened over the weekend. One celebrity, one Royal. Plus there’s speculation about a third involving pop royalty, and Mia, Amelia and Em need to unpack all of them.

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First up, Dua Lipa married Callum Turner in a glorious three-day extravaganza in Palermo, Sicily.  So why – like Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez before them –  were the locals not altogether happy

While, deep in the Cotswolds, King Charles’ nephew Peter Phillips got married to Harriet Sperling in a tiny church, and some very notable family members didn't make the cut.

And then there’s Taylor Swift. There are reports she’s about to marry Travis Kelce at Madison Square Garden on the 4th of July weekend and the guest list is stressing us out. From Blake Lively, to avoiding an awkward Harry Styles run-in, how exactly do you choose who's on the list? And, what about the ‘no ring, no bring’ theory?

Oh, and Mia is back from Tokyo and we need to debrief.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Emily Vernem &amp; Amelia Lester on our subscribers only episode.&nbsp; You can listen to the full conversation: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/taylor-swift-wedding/?utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=podcast&amp;utm_content=subs-teaser">3 (Celebrity) Weddings And A Guest Drama&nbsp;</a> Two big weddings happened over the weekend. One celebrity, one Royal. Plus there&rsquo;s speculation about a third involving pop royalty, and Mia, Amelia and Em need to unpack all of them.
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/taylor-swift-wedding/?utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=podcast&amp;utm_content=subs-teaser">SUBSCRIBE</a> to Mamamia and get every single episode of Mamamia Out Loud &amp; access to every story on Mamamia plus our exercise app, MOVE.
First up, Dua Lipa married Callum Turner in a glorious three-day extravaganza in Palermo, Sicily.&nbsp; So why &ndash; like Jeff Bezos and Lauren S&aacute;nchez before them &ndash;&nbsp; were the locals not altogether happy
While, deep in the Cotswolds, King Charles&rsquo; nephew Peter Phillips got married to Harriet Sperling in a tiny church, and some very notable family members didn't make the cut.
And then there&rsquo;s Taylor Swift. There are reports she&rsquo;s about to marry Travis Kelce at Madison Square Garden on the 4th of July weekend and the guest list is stressing us out. From Blake Lively, to avoiding an awkward Harry Styles run-in, how exactly do you choose who's on the list? And, what about the &lsquo;no ring, no bring&rsquo; theory?
Oh, and Mia is back from Tokyo and we need to debrief.
Subscribe to <a href="https://miafreedman.substack.com/subscribe">Mia's private email here</a>.&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/dua-lipa-wedding">Don&rsquo;t Go To Uni, Baby Doll Dresses &amp; The World&rsquo;s Coolest Wedding Hat</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-aussie-families-birth-rate-middle-child/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Sorry Clare. There&rsquo;s No Better Time To NOT Have A Baby</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/katy-perry-daddy">Reading-Gap Relationships &amp; The 'Daddy' Of It All</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/alex-cooper-baby">A Woman Got Pregnant &amp; &lsquo;Betrayed Us All&rsquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-teaser-kylie-minogue-netflix-documentary">FREE SUBS TASTER: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/donald-trump-wedding">Bed Shaming &amp; A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son&rsquo;s Wedding</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/ariana-grande-ethan-slater-split">Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater's controversial love story is over. This is what we know.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/supporting-miscarriage-grief">'My baby's death shouldn't make you uncomfortable. We need to talk about it.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/partner-kept-notes-about-me">'I thought my partner was the one. Then I found his notes app I wasn't meant to read.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/the-four-seasons-relationship-opinion">One scene in this hit Netflix show forced me to confront the most dangerous habit in my own relationship.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/jeni-haynes-no-filter">Jeni Haynes created 2,681 personalities to survive her father. Her childhood toy brought him undone.</a></li>
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