A Major Episode - Best Bets for The Open Championship

Published Jul 17, 2024, 12:29 AM

Dave Ross, Kelley Bydlon, and Wes Reynolds preview The Open Championship, golf's fourth and final major. The Open Championship takes place at Royal Troon Golf Club. There's no surprise that Scottie Scheffler is a significant favorite. What's the strategy for betting on or against Scheffler? Will Rory McIlroy break his major drought? The guys go through their course breakdown and stats that matter. Also, best bets and more for The Open Championship!

This is long Shots, Vison's premier golf betting podcasts. Here's Matt Brown, Wes Reynolds and Kelly Bidling, and welcome.

To this special edition of long Shots, the Last Chance for glory at the British Open, Last Chance to win a major in twenty twenty four. I am Dave ross In for Matt Brown this week. What a pleasure to be joined by Wes Reynolds and Kelly Bidlin. I feel like boys that I got the call up to be with you guys for the fourth major, in the last major of the year. So I couldn't be more excited to talk golf with you guys here at the British Open.

We need some fresh blood in here, Okay, Dave. Matt's busy golfing this week.

Okay, Matt.

I think Matt's playing a practice round at Royal Truan right now, so we'll catch up with Matt and about mis travails. But gentlemen, when you look at the odds board here for the Open Championship, we understand why Scottie Scheffer on any golf course these days, is going to be the short shot to win this thing.

Kelly, let me start off with you here when you look.

At Scotty, do you have a I can't play here him card because his number is too short?

Things? Or how do we how do we gauge Scotty?

You know what?

No, because I just played him what at the Travelers Championship, at a championship about this same number. Yes, we have some live guys that are in this tournament, so you would think it gets a little bit longer, you know, Wes, I'm interested to talk about this with you. It is I think this is a fascinating topic to start with with Scheffler. I do think because we're at the Open Championship, you get a little bit more you know, variance when it comes to weather and you don't know who might get struck by the ugly you know, all it takes, it's an Open Championship. All it takes is a couple hours of bad weather at the wrong time and everybody's golf game that's stuck in that can get, can get, can.

Go off course. So that's a little bit what what at.

Least what I'm reading into Wes, of why you're seeing a little bit longer number on Scotty than we have seen in the past.

Couple of majors.

I think there's a little bit of a you know, Scotty what we haven't seen him since the Travelers, so a little bit a little bit out of sight, out of mind as well. I don't know how you feel about that price, West.

It's not the it was.

It's not that the price was too short for me to bet, but with some of the randomness that you get at the Open every year, because of that, it became too short.

Right, and a couple different things too. Scotty, by the way, he has been over in Scotland, was at Turnberry over the weekend prep for this week at Royal Troon. I feelix three times he's played the Open has never been bad here a twenty first and twenty third, so certainly respectable. So it's not like, oh, he can never play links golf. But I just think, like you said, with the weather variants and the fact that this is the most I think, unpredictable, I think that this is the most challenging and maybe fun as a veteran as a handicapper, but it's also the most difficult because there's no it's not i think clear pinpoint. Because you've had guys that have had time off and if they even have been playing, they haven't been playing golf that really prepares them for this, unless maybe they played the Scottish at Renaissance last week, but you haven't had all these because they've been playing, Like when you look at data, That's why I think like some of the data that we usually do is a little bit foolhardy this week because we're usually like, okay, strokes gained approach last thirty six rounds or however many rounds going in. Well, a lot of these guys have been playing either of the Rocket Mortgage Classic, or they've been playing the John Deere something like that that are Birdie Fest, or you know guys on the Live Tour that are in seventeen live players by the way in here this week played Valderrama, which is a really difficult course. But really unlike this course that they're going to see this week is the fairways were just so narrow and tree line, so you really don't get a like, Okay, there's been a lot of links events, you know going in, like an Irish Open, like a Scottish Open, because that's what they used to have, used to have two or three links events, so you can get a good idea.

So because you have that lack of form, that's why I think it's so wide open.

Rory is the second shortest shot on the board this week. I'm not sure if you guys were able to listen to Rors. It sounds like he's in a good headspace. I know everybody's talking about what happened to Piners at the US Open, where it felt like that's the championship he just got it gave away.

He has not won in ten years.

West let me start off with you, do you look at the mental side of Rory and get a little bit concern it's been so long since he's closed.

I do a little bit, and look, he could very well win this week. This is the ten year anniversary, of course, of Royal Liverpool where he won his Lone Claire jug. It's hard to believe it's been ten years, but you know, I think he needed that time away. He did play solidly at the Scottish Open and an up T four last week, so so in the mix. Never really challenge for the lead on Sunday they're at Renaissance, but look, he always has a chance. I'm not gonna bet him necessarily at this price, I may go like a top ten if I hit even money or something like that, because the guy, you know, has obviously been tremendous on links over the years, and not just at the Open Championship but elsewhere on the DP World Tour back in the old days.

So look, he could certainly win.

I would actually like his chances a little bit better than Scotty Scheffler. He's like, if you made me bet one of the two, sure, I would probably go with Rory just because of all.

The experience here.

If you look at the run he was t six here last year, third and twenty twenty two, you know, so he has had a lot of runs second in twenty eighteen, fourth and twenty seventeen, fifth and twenty sixteen. So since that win at Royal Liverpool in twenty fourteen, this is a guy that has five top sixes in the Open Championship, so he's gonna probably be right there.

So, Kelly, I guess that's the question, right, do you want to play Rory as an outright at eight to one or look to those placement markets like Wess.

Is doing it because I do feel like he's always around.

He just normally doesn't get in the Winter Circle Lease in the last decade and a major Yeah, I think.

That's perfectly fine.

You want to go Shawfley, McElroy, Scheffler, do you want to if you want to look at them more in the finishing position markets. I think that's a way to approach him, those those three guys do. I think that's where I'm drawing the line of Look, we're going to go over what our models spat out you know later, and what we did dig into stat wise, I'm going to I'm gonna guarantee that for me and Wes, all three of those guys are you know, three of the top five guys you know in kind of our rankings this week, but just where their odds are at and what might happen with weather and everything like that. I think you're if you're looking for an outright bet, I think you're better off going into this tournament looking to get in on one of those guys live. And I'm leaving some room on my card for that possibility. I think Scheffler at that number and Rory too, I'd be interested in both, and Wes knows. I'm not usually the biggest Rorty McRoy guy, but I think those are the guys to look I'll be I'll be looking, looking to get in live involved live later in the.

This is the week and I know we'll go over some stats later in the program, but this is the week where you don't want to be a slave to the model. I don't think because of the weather draw bias, because of the fact that you have different statistical data. This is not as easy as like, okay, when we have like a boilerplate PGA Tour event, run the numbers, that's what they are, they make total sense. Well, now you've got to incorporate, you know, some of the data or the limited data you get from live, the limited data you get from the DP World Tour, the Asian Tour, and this is one hundred and fifty eight players from all over the world, all different tours.

So this is a little bit harder to model this week.

Yeah, I was a little bit thrown when I saw that it's going to be eighteen degrees on Thursday, and then.

I realized that's Selsea.

Yes, I know you gotta do this.

I do it.

Com version table graphic for the folks at home.

Well, as we're gonna go over later on in the program, you're gonna break down the course as it stands. Obviously, when you think of a British Open, you're gonna think bunkers, and there are one hundred and one bunkers that are going to be at Royal Truon set up for this par seventy one course seventy one hundred and ninety yards that we're going to have only two holes that have water really in play for these guys here for there's any danger there. When you look at that, obviously you got a big feel one fifty eight, you got seventy top seventy are going to make it and ties to make the cut here when we get to Friday. But again, you look back at twenty sixteen, and we've talked about it before West it does feel like there were just two outliers that week and they have to be the winner. And Henrik Stenson at twenty under and then some guy named Phil Mickelson who finished seventeen under, and I went back and dug into their final rounds on that day. I mean Phil, he didn't have a bogey on Sunday, shot a six under with an eagle, and still loses by three because Stenson shot a sixty three eights under yeah, and opened.

Up with a bogie in the first hole.

By the way, boy yea, So do you throw out that stuff, and said those two guys were the allies a little bit because.

Look Stenson, by the way, he set the all time record at the Open Championship with the two sixty four, and I you know, I've been looking at this like, oh man, this course played easily easy and it's gettable, don't get me wrong, but this is not as easy as like a Saint Andrew or something like that. There's a little bit more narrow fairways. You can get in more trouble I think on these courses or on this particular course. But you look, third place was JB. Holmes at six hunder par. I think there were seventeen.

Guys that were in red figures yep. Overall, so it really didn't play, no, you know that as easy as you think four? Yeah, exactly.

So what Stenson and Mickelson and going back and kind of looking through that, and I know they've been airing some of the best opens in history on Golf Channel this week in the build up. Stenson and Mickelson, if you go back to that, they club down a lot off the tee and they took a lot of three woods.

They took a.

Lot of it, and Stenson has hit the best three wood in the world at that point in twenty sixteen pit irons. So it is a little bit lengthy over a course this year almost two hundred.

Yards in length. But this is not the bombing gouge.

This is not usually the strategy that's gonna work here because you will get in thick fescue rough here and if you get in one of those pot bunkers off the fairway, especially depending on the angle, because sometimes we see these guys they hit it into the bank of the bunker all the time. You're basically say, if you hit it in a bunker off the fairway, you're basically at least taking bogie and your and that's your goal is to say bogie on that.

Whole Kelly, guys, you're gonna find bunkers. When you got one hundred and one of them on the course.

You're going to you're going too because you're going to be so dead set on hitting that fairway because you know, we did have that graphic cup before. Whenever you see two to twelve inches of rough, that you're dealing with, you want to stay away from that. So yes, so you are going to definitely find those pod bunkers in the fairway because it is so important to keep your t shot in the fairway. And I think as Wes and I talked to what we did end up factoring into our models and looking at heavily this week for me, that was very important. I think it's a very very interesting off the tee course set up this week because with those bunkers in the fairway, it also it also requires your distance control to be really, really really good this week, right, so it is I mean we've got what we got West, we got burns were hitting over, we.

Got we got bumpers were hitting over.

So there's a there's a hole where you got a railroad track on a railway line from Glasgow to air called railway.

I think it's eleven.

Yeah, So Dave, not only you got to be down the middle, but you gotta be not too long, not too a you gotta find the perfect spot. So often tea is very very important this week and interesting as we talked through.

You mentioned that, right, we don't think of rough at an Open Championship, but you're right, And I heard Scotty say today they've gotten more rain over there than they have in years past, and that rough. If you do find it, it's gonna be phenal.

Thicker because it's been warm and as you mentioned, it's been rainy, so a lot tougher to get it out of than normal.

And by the way, rain in the forecast for at least two of the four days this weekend at Russy.

I like it, man, because we're not getting anything.

We're not getting any of our over here, absolutely all right.

When we come back, let's talk about the course a little bit more because sometimes you look at a British Open, or as they say.

The Open Championship, sometimes the course wins. Will that be the case?

Come on back, long Shots, just getting cranked up for this British Open special. Well, welcome back to this special edition of long Shots. The last chance for a major will happen at the Open or as we as as Americans say, the British Open always a point of contention.

H Kelly vilin Westernolds.

Dave Ross, come atch you here from Circus Sports Fabulous, Las Vegas, Nevada. Kelly, I gotta start with you, weatherman Kelly again I have no idea what the temperature is gonna be.

I think it's gonna be in the sixties, but I'm not sure how.

The compressions to high. Yeah, and I'm.

Guessing it's gonna rain.

It is.

You're right, Yeah, weatherman Kelly here for your usual report during long shots.

Look, this is an event West. You can chime in if you would correct me, if you want.

We've got content to do, so we got to make some bets, probably earlier than we would like to. I think that if you are betting at home, you want to look at you want to have the best idea of what this weather forecast is really gonna look like heading into the tournament. Having said that, and I know I've done this, Wes prouses by over analysis, right.

You wait too long much on that you try to predict the weather.

Ask any weatherman out there who does this for a living meteorologist, and ask him how accurate they are now in parts of.

The world like this.

It's Scotland, weather's gonna pop up. It's gonna be unpredictable Thursday. Right now, though, what it's looking like as we record this show is Tuesday afternoon, yere in Las Vegas. We're gonna get Thursday. It's gonna be some rain. We're looking at forty fifty chancel rain. Bigger thing with golf though, just like football, it is the wind we're gonna see about Thursday. Looks like it's gonna be even pretty much throughout the day. We're about fifteen mile an hour sustained wins and you're getting gusts up to twenty four to twenty five.

So not brutal for.

An open Friday right now, Whereas where it looks like later in the day on Friday, it could get pretty brutal from a win perspective. That's when gusts are getting up into the thirties in that afternoon Friday spot.

So keep that in mind for now. Just someone to update everybody on.

But if you are someone who's waiting to make their bets on Wednesday, which I will never blame you for on an open championship, keep refreshing this, check in on it, because this stuff changes every I feel like I'm looking at something new every three hours.

I pull this up.

Yeah, don't get your DFS lineup into early And that's why a lot of my placement market stuff is gonna be Wednesday, because I have more of an idea of the weather this week, so look should should be fascinating though. And in terms of the course layout, which I'll get to here, I mentioned it has been length in about two hundred yards, so it's a little bit less than seventy four hundred yards. I don't think that that's gonna, you know, make that much of a difference with now long these guys hit it anyway. But you've almost got like three unique courses here at Royal Troon. You've got holes one through six, which are kind of like the birdie holes, right, these are the ones that kind of get a little bit easier, and then seven through twelve.

And let's keep that in mind for anybody looking to live bet this week, this could be a bit. This is a big, big thing where those first six holes can be scorable.

If that wind off the ocean is not too bad.

Yeah, absolutely, seven through twelve is kind of the unique holes, but they're not like overwhelming. I mentioned that railway the par four on the eleventh. You've also got what they call the postage stamp the park the eighth, which only measures at one to twenty three. It actually played on Saturday in the third round in twenty sixteen. Here at ninety nine yards, whole number eight. They call it the postage stamp. The green is only about two twenty six hundred square feet, so it is a hard green to hit here. And the middle six I think is very unique. I mentioned that railway hole and number eleven. Arnold Palmer once said it was the most dangerous hole he'd ever seen back in sixty two, And in that same year. Jack Nicholas actually was a tour rookie in nineteen sixty two and made a quintuple bogie ten on this hole when it was a par five.

I still know the jack that the King, the King of golf, could ever do that.

I know, I know.

I was the train rolled through when West said it was the most dangerous hole.

Glasgow was actually I think in the last one, like I don't, I can't remember which player hit it on the train tracks. Actually it goes from Glasgow Central to air This is about thirty miles away from Glasgow.

This course here in Troon.

And then the last six holes I think are the hardest on the course. I know, Gary Player, I guess, was quoted as saying the back nine here when the wind's blowing, might be the toughest in the world because the win by the way, thirteen to eighteen more off, and the knot is gonna blow at the players. It's downwind on the front nine, but on the back nine they're gonna blow. It's gonna blow on your right in the players faces. Greens here not very big. Their bent poa bent poa onw mix forty five hundred square feet on average, so not the easiest greens to hit necessarily, So you're gonna have to be sharp around the green and the greens when you look at the greens if you've looked at those video flyovers that we're showing, if you're watching us on video for this program, they're very small on entry point and then they get a little bit bigger towards the back. So you'll see, you guys, aim for the back or aim for the center of the green. And these greens, by the way, are the slowest that they're gonna put on.

All year long.

These can roll. I was doing research. These could roll as low as like nine and a half on the stim meter, which is astonishingly low.

Now, especially when the wind blows.

You're gonna get the undulations all that stuff with the green complexes, but that's still I know, we're talking to major that still held level at the putt in.

The field a little bit when it comes to putting.

Yeah, I was.

Thinking the same thing that this would help out quote unquote bad putters like you know, even if.

You're playing more in Europe and on the DP World Tour, you think, okay, that's a small advantage. But none of these guys are putting on greens this slow. I mean, these guys are usually on bermuda, you know, whenever Kelly and I do this every single week, Dave, and we're looking at this, so you know, how much do we value putting.

Some weeks it's none. Some weeks it is some. And we're seeing these guys.

Okay, these are thirteen on the stint meter, and these are bent grass or they are bermuta slick bermuda or whatever it is. These are very very slow, and and you're gonna you're gonna have to be patient here.

You mentioned Royal Truman obviously debuted back in eighteen seventy eight in Kelly, As you mentioned, with the weather, they say in Scotland you can get all four seasons in one day, you're gonna get cold, you're gonna get fall, when you're gonna get all four of them in one day. Sometimes at Scottlin, I was just how was.

Playing that course when it first opened, David?

It was I covered the first one. I had my little press head on back.

Boy cap.

So go ask you guys, when you look at the course set up and the design of it less as you just laid out there, do you think the number one skill that you'd want this week is chipping around the green or if you're looking at iron plate to get to those smaller greens.

I started with iron. I started with the proach here because.

Almost always the most important matter, because.

The greens are on the smaller side, and you know you're gonna try to, you know, get as close to the target as you can, because I will tie that in with off the tee. Like off the tee, I didn't do like distance or anything. I don't I don't think that that matters as much. I don't think you have to be a bomber here, even though it's you know, two hundred yards longer. So I did a little bit of good drives gained and what that category means is when a player either hits the fairway or misses the fairway, you know, might get in that thick stuff, but still can hit the green in regulations, So good drives gain I felt was important in terms of like around the green scrambling sand. Say, you're gonna get in bunkers, so you're gonna have to, you know, be a decent bunker player. You're gonna have to have some little tricky chips around the greens, so that's important. Bogey avoidance, I think is also important, especially as I got, you get to those final six holes because you can pile them up on thirteen through eighteen here, so I thought that was important. Then I looked at strokes gain putting on slow greens, like you you may have to go to different sites out there. Different stat sites will tell you that it gets slower when the winds really blow too. And then for context, I look at how players played on links courses. They played in the Open Championship, how they played in the Scottish Open at the at the Dunhill Links, how they played in the Irish Open in recent years, because there are a few link spots on the DP World Tour schedule that you'll get some of the American players even going over and playing.

So I didn't go.

As deep as I usually would because a lot of this is gut this week because you have these guys playing these wild schedules and now they all come together for just one of the few times of the year.

Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating, Kelly, and I'm with Wes on that. Certainly, I want to get guys that can striking with those irons pretty well, and normally that would lead me to a guy like Victor Hoven, and then I look at Victor around the Greens, I like, go, oh, that leads me away from Victor hon.

Yeah, Victor's Victor's been a tough guy to figure out this year, and that is uh.

I think that is.

A fair way to describe it, At least for me this week, that was an easy pass. And I'll just I think Wes and I looked at a lot of the same things that you definitely want to be careful if you are. We talk about this on the podcast a lot. Depending on where you're kind of running your stats through, depending on what sites you do, you know, some sites will only take PGA tour data. Other sites will involve DP World Tour and some even with Live So with everybody playing together in a major this week, you do want to focus on some of those that do involve everybody. But I think off the t is very important here this week did factor that, and like you said, Wes, good drives, fairways gained.

I think the accuracy.

Extremely important this week overrides the distance for sure, and then I approach approach. I did factor in. One of the other things I did is look, we got three par fives.

Is a par seventy one. They are three of the score easy, easier to holds the.

Score on, but man in a major becomes that much more important to be able to score those birdies on those types of holes. So I did factor in par five's a lot of the other stuff you hit around the green sand save scrambling, and I you know, I think as if you're at home and kind of doing your own handicapping, and if you're gonna do the whole, let me wait till Wednesday before I put bets in. I think if you see the weather get worse and worse, all I would do, Wes is just way that stuff a little bit more heavily around the green sand save scrambling with these greens being as small as they are, all it means if it gets windy you're out there, it's gonna be a tougher and tougher to hit the greens. So you're playing around the greens far more often bogey avoidance and then with small greens like this. I do this every time West three putt avoidance on small greens. I think it's important to factor in. That's pretty much everything that I punched into my moodless.

Yeah, it's absolutely fascinating too.

Like I remember Jack saying, you know, I remember nineteen sixty seven, I got the worst out.

Of the weather draw. These guys think about these things to it.

Am I going to get the bad end of this weather draw because it's going somebody's gonna get screwed.

Yeah, And you don't know, as you mentioned.

Off the top of her Kelly, you don't know where that weather when it's going to pop up, when it's gonna be good. You just hope you get the better end of those draws on a Thursday and Friday. Then you hope on the weekend everybody plays the same golf course. All right, gentlemen, you put in the work. When we come back, let's get your best bets and what led you to them when we continue here in the special edition of long Shots, and welcome back to this special edition of long Shots breaking down the Open Championship. I'm Dave Ross alongside Kelly Bidlin and Wes Reynolds. Of course, wherever you get your podcast, be sure to check out long Shots each in every week, Matt Brown will be back in this chair. No truth to the rumor that he's playing over in Royal truon this week.

Oh he was there like a month ago. Just why he doesn't need to go back. Yeah, unbelievable.

I want to be Matt Brown when I get older. Gentlemen, you put in all that work. I always think of Bill Parcells.

That's why you lift all that damn weight.

So you do all the work, and now you get to pay it off here hopefully if with some winners and outrights obviously we know are hard to hit, but there's also placement.

Markets out there. Wes. I want to know what got you to and made it to your card this week?

Yeah.

The shortest price sixteen to one, that being Colin Morikawa who he's been close so he's trying to get that third major.

Remember he won here.

Usually you need to be experienced to win here, at the Open Championship, whatever course. He won on debut in twenty twenty one at Royal Saint George. Missed the last two cuts, but he's been close all season second going into the final round of Augusta, and then he shot seventy four on Sunday. He was the co leader was Xander Schoffle at the PGA at Valhalla, then just never got it going, shot seventy one, finished fourth, and at the US Open he was in the top ten, like not right there to win, but top ten, and then he was kind of flat on Sunday, so he's had a real problem on Sunday. Same thing at the Scottish Open too, never really got it going. But I think this is the week where he could get it going, because what I really like about Morikawa is driving accuracy. Second on the p toured this season, I think Aaron Raye is still first, So I think he's going to stay out of trouble off the tee and you know, give give himself some chances at Berdie Here we know on approach he's usually very good that that's the best part of his game. So Colin mark Hawa sixteen to one, John Rahm twenty five to one, who I've kind of been targeting. When I saw that number, I go, if it reaches that, I'm gonna grab it. And I went ahead and did it. He hadn't played poorly this year. I don't know, he's been going through some mental stuff. I think, you know, he's kind of like he thought, I think maybe jumping, making that jump in the offseason to live obviously the financial fruits of that. I think he kind of thought this is going to be the impetus for like a reunification to get done. That he was going to be that driving force and it hadn't happened yet, so you know, a lot of that's weighing on his mind. But he led the field at Valderrama last week for Greens and Regulation. By the way, that's a very narrow course, top three and two of the last three opens. He's one on links before won a couple opens back at the Hinge I know was one of them, and Port Stewart was another one twenty seventeen, twenty nineteen, so certainly has the pedigree here.

Very quickly on Ramer, because I think we all thought, oh, you know, Mary, he's got a kid, he's calm, or he's a major champion, and then all of a sudden you see him on liv it's like old Spanish Ram.

He still has that temper.

I mean, it's still Does that concern you at all?

No, you know, because I think he compartmentalizes it better. It used to be it would affect him. Yeah, but now you know he cusses, he's club in the ground and then he moves on, and you know, I think he is a little more mature about it. I just think it's been a little bit mental this year with the whole change and not playing the normal schedule. So I think he's going to show up though this week, maybe maybe the forgotten Man. But now I see a lot of people are liking him, so hopefully we get a community winner. Yeah.

Well, I'll jump in on a couple of these because in the.

Years of us doing this, I don't remember a tournament where we share as many plays.

Yeah.

Well, I don't know that it's a good thing or a bad thing. I guess we'll find out. But the Ram's interesting. I will say, Dave, this is a. I mean, okay, he's got great open history, right T three last year, eight thirty four, twenty twenty two, T three twenty twenty one to eleven twenty nine. This is a world class player still in John Rahm, I think what you've seen is you haven't seen a win on live yet, but he's been in that top ten every single week. This is a little bit more of a number play for me when I see a guy like this drift out to twenty five twenty six to one I.

Was able to get today. I'm going in on Rama, I had number like.

By the way, I have two of the same guys on both your cards too, which is bizarre. Pob play on that one, you know, And that's probably my inner West Reynolds because I listen to Wes so often when we do shows together. That Ramer once that twenty five to one hit, it was almost an AutoPlay for me.

West, Yeah, I think. So, Look, he's got the complete game, I believe. I still think, you know, world rankings aside not accumulating world ranking points, I still think he's one of the.

Top three or four players in the world.

He's up there in my opinion with Scotty and Rory and you know, maybe just because he hasn't won, you know, hasn't gotten that maiden yet. On liv I think this is a time where he's gonna win a major. He's still, I think, very much in his prime.

Well, I don't know how you feel about this.

I didn't bet him, but if you want, if you want to bet Brooks Kepka this week and basically say the same exact things that we just said about John Rahm, I don't have a problem.

I mean, Brooks is out to like forty to one, forty five to one.

H I mean, if you still feel like you're you can still get some of the old Brooks.

That's a big number on Brooks, kept guy, I don't have a problem.

Anyone consider I will certainly play in a placement at the bare minimum on Brooks. But continuing on here, Tommy Fleetwood, I'm back again on him at the old UH and I played a little bit less and I think I sent the wrong number. Twenty eighth to one is what I got. Six career DP World Tour victories against good competition. But he's never won on the PGA Tour nor major. But if you look at the Open He's got a runner up, a fourth, and a tenth all within the last five years. He's one of the best links players in the world. Straight hitter. Never really gonna be like a birdie fest guy, like you know, these tournaments, regular tournaments you gotta witch, like twenty five under.

He's not gonna win those.

He just doesn't, you know, not really a huge birdie nugger, but a guy that keeps it straight, a guy that embraces, you know, creativity, and around the green. I think he's very good. So Tommy Fleetwood makes the card. Victor Hoblin. This is just kind of going on a haunch here because I have no form, yeah, to indicate this thirty three to one.

Look, I thought he was.

I thought he was back at the PGA when he finished third and then he missed the cut at the US Open. Hadn't done much since, but he's never been worse than thirteenth at the Open. Proven links player, I think, you know, because you don't have those like those like tight lines necessarily around the greens. I think he could actually be better around the green, which has always kind of been his weakness. But I think this week it could be a lot better than it usually is now fifty to one and main reason he made a putter change about a couple months ago and ever since then eighteenth seventeenth eight, third at the US Open and fifth in his last five starts. I was looking because I was looking. You know, Strokes gained total links golf courses over the last ten years.

He is the second best. Yeah, I couldn't believe that.

Wow.

I would never have guessed yeah, because it never has felt like he's been right there for an Open. But he's got the creativity to I mean, look, he hits it all over the place and uses every arifice of the course. But I think that could serve him well this week. And then I did play Sun JM. Seventy five to one, who has actually missed the cut in all three majors this year, but consistent form, coming in T three at the Travelers TA twelve at the Dart four last week. At the Scottish Op last week he did so I think he could go back again seventy five to one. I may add one or two more in the next thirty six hours before we tee off a very late Wednesday night on the West Coast early Thursday morning on the East Coast. But that's my outright right now, and then I'll briefly get to the matchups. Morikawa over to Shambeau Deshambo would be a guy and I like Bryson and I think he's back, but I don't think that this is the right place for him. I think in link Skuff. He has one top thirty in his career in the open. This is just not his his.

Back he is it.

The driver today on one was hitting him long and it's like if you do that in practice rounds because they were saying, whoa, it is a sight to behold. That's different though, when you get into play and the weather gets bad. Yes, Tony fen Now minus one ten over Walkeen Neeman, Russell Henley minus one ten over seawook Him. Russell Henley is a guy that could be a sleeper here. He hits it dead straight, hits very good irons. He could be a sleeper here, as maybe could Austin Eckrod, who have a replacement market minus one fifteen over Eric Cole.

He won, of.

Course earlier this year at PJ National for the Cognisant Classic, which you've seen some crossover in that event in the past for the Open guys that have succeeded, because that's one of the tougher courses on the PGA Tour, very narrow, a lot more water obviously than they're gonna see over here at Royal Troon. But Austin Ackrod minus one fifteen over Eric Cole.

For me, Kelly, I know you've got some similar plays as Wes. What do you like this week?

Yeah, let me I'll run through mine. I might have to finish up on the other side, but all good. Yeah, more kala.

I look, I bet on my west Webb. I don't even know what am I on him five weeks in a row or something. At this point, I'm basically he's the best goal for the PGA Tour that has one yet this year, I'm pretty much gonna be betting him, I think every tournament here until he wins, because I think he's that close. You look at majors this year, T three at the Masters, T four at the PGA, T fourteen at the US Open. He's played incredibly well at the majors. You went through his Open history. Okay, he's got two miscuts, but he's also gotta win.

Guy's big.

Where's his game at right now you hit you went through a little bit west. One of the most accurate guys on the tour off the tee. That's what we're looking for this week. He's great on approach, always been a great on approach. Was struggling with that a little bit earlier in the season, but has really got that back together. Top ten and bogie avoidance last twelve rounds around the greenplay has improved, the putting has improved more. Coow is my favorite play this week outright, and then a pretty sizable top ten bet on him and then played him in that matchup over Bryson Deshambo as well. Not currently on my graphic, but that one did make my card.

John Ron we already talked through. Yep.

I love me some Tony Phenow. I'm gonna get into a little bit more on that, Dave when we come back up. Hey, I got to dive into a little bit more numbers on Tony, which has been surprised me as much as you guys as well. When you picture Tony Fenw, you don't picture a classic Link style golfer, but.

I think he's a good fit.

This week, somebody learned how to putt it looks like possibly with Tony Fenw So I'll get the rest of Kelly's card. I gotta ask you guys about Tiger Woods as well. He is can you believe it? In the field feels like nobody's talking about Tiger we'll talk a little bit about that next here on long Shots, we continue this special edition of long Shots Dave Ross, West Reynolds and Kelly Bidlin coming at you here as we break down the Open Championship at Royal Truon Kelly, you were going through your card. You and West do have some similar names on it, but you have one that really intrigues me at the end of your card.

But you're also on sung Jay just like less Oh.

I am yes.

Just to recap so far called moore ca outright and then top ten the more caw a top ten biggest bet I've made this week. Wow, just for people tracking at home that I got a more kala problem right now. There's no bad John Ram a little bit more of a number play. We talked about that one already. Tony Fenw West, I know you're on him as well. You got a little bit better number than I did forty five to one. Though you're talking Tony in the forties. I love it still few a top twenty bet for me, matchups, outrights, everything. I've got maybe a problem with Tony Fenw this week.

This is what we're talking about.

Recent results fellas T five of the Travelers, T three us O and T eight Memorial T seventeen, Charles Squab T eighteen the PGA.

He's in form right now. What's his open history?

Okay, missed the cut last year T twenty eight and twenty twenty two, T fifteen and twenty twenty one, third and twenty nineteen T nine to twenty eighteen, T twenty seven, twenty seventeen, T eighteen to twenty sixteen where they played this same tournament at Royal Truon.

I feed ow is a guy you gotta look out for.

Last twelve rounds, third on approach, twenty six on opportunities, game third on par five, scoring second on bogie avoid it's fourth and scrambling fifth on around the green play, twenty sixth in putting. These are like Tony feed out numbers that have really really come into form at the perfect time for him. So I really like Tony Fenal this week, which is not something I was planning on heading into this before I really started digging into the tournament.

So Wes, I know we're both on him really like finale.

As you see, I played him in a couple matchups as well as the Top twenty and then the outright Tom Kim. Then'll get into my top twenty plays here Tom Kim, I thought I was gonna like him a little bit more than I ended up ended up liking him this week.

West. I don't know how you. I know you bet you and I have both kind of been.

Betting him here past six weeks or so, ended up with a top twenty play on him. This is, you know, really more of a model play. He's got great some great recent results and so I'm losing that playoff the Cheffler T sixteen at the scott As. He did miss the cut at the Rocket Mortgage, but that was right after that lost to Cheffler. So I'll get him a little bit of a break finished T two, you know in the Open last year.

Kind of more cow a light right.

He's been accurate off the tee, pretty good with the irons, the around the game, great around the green game, and putting will be tested for sure, Aaron Rye.

I can't quit. I mean, we're he's there every way, He's there every week.

It's really the guy. I mean, I've been burning money on him for years at this point. So finally aerin.

Yes, this is the year where we get to.

Come into four around on Sunday just to get in.

That's right, yes, right, but.

You're talking, we're talking guys that are accurate off the t. Aaron Ryse's been as good as anybody, and dude's just on a heater right now, right for the Scottish T seven, John Deere T two at the Rocket, Mortgage T nineteen AHT, the US Open stat profile. This is really everything you're looking for in a guy. He's just not been tested as much as the big names at the top. So I took a two to one on a Top twenty. Also played him in a matchup over Aaron Rye.

And then the other one.

I know that was jumping out to you, Dave last name on my outright card Aux Shay, but t.

That one really caught my attention.

This is kind of just a talent play like Wes. I. You know, I don't know how you feel about him. I bet him kind of lightly throughout this year. I mean, still a younger guy that we expect his game to come into a complete form at some point.

But the things he does well right now kind of what.

You're looking for at this course. So Flyer just played an outright on him. Didn't you want to go any deeper than that? But at triple digits fun lung shot, and that's.

A big number for a guy that's already won on tour this year. He won the Valero Texas Open. The week four the Masters, was T five at the Travelers. People forget with that playoff with Tom Kimmin, Scotti, Scheffler up there in Hartford. The third man in that group was Akshay Battia, so he was in contention, and of course we know what happened. We know what happened at Detroit where he missed that putt and just out on the playoff. Cam Davis wins again in Detroit, second time in his career. But look, Brian Harmon, if you remember last year before winning the Open, I know he kind of came out of nowhere and nobody and he ran.

Away with it.

It is one hundred and fifty to one shot. You don't see that very often. Brian Harmon was runner up at the Travelers leading into that, so it wasn't like he had zero Foreman and Akhay does have a lot of form here. Actualy will be you know, T thirty to forty type of placement market play for me. But this is a decent long shot. This guy is already a two time PGA Tour winner. He's not defending his Barracuda in the alternate event because he's.

Obviously in the field.

Yes, absolutely, but this guy look, man, he look he looks like, you know, he's so thin that he looks like a gusta wind is like going to blow him into the sea two years young.

I mean, we're talking about a kid that's just already we're developing before your eyes on the PGA.

And he hits it all and he'll hit it all over the place. But he's creative. He's a left handed player, very smart, very cerebral, takes a lot of interesting angles in the greens, which you're gonna have to do this week.

By the way, I'm on with you, guys. I'm on Ramer at twenty five to one. Same thing that you guys discussed. It was more of a price play For me, I am on Sung Jam loved the forum that he's under coming out of the Scottish Open.

Last good price on him. That was way longer than I thought he was gonna be.

Now, I may make a case for one guy that's not on either one of you all's cards, and I understand why because when I look up the history of the Scottish Open and winners that win on the Scottish Open and then win the British Open the next week, the list is Phil Nicholson.

That's the end of the list.

It's been done one time in the history of golf where you go back to back winning the Scottish and then winning the Open championship. I did play Robert McIntyre this week at forty five forty forty one to one rather and the reason why I played him is that after getting that win just last month on the PGA toy he said, Hey, I'm sorry, Detroit, I'm not going to the Rocket Morks. I'm going home to party, and he should and he did right, and then he gets himself back to as he said, to win the one championship that he regards more than any major, and that's the Scottish Open.

For a young scotsman like he is. Now. I'm sure he partied Sunday night. Okay.

So now he's got two wins in a month on the PGA Tour, and for me, I think he goes I'm still in Scotland, I'm still at Royal Troon.

I think this is all gravy.

There's no pressure on him anymore, and he's uber talented at that number, I couldn't pass it up.

It's only about a two hour drive too, by the way, so it's not like he has to catch a flight. But look, I can't necessarily argue against that because he's in good for him and forty to one. Like I saw on Sunday there was a book that was repricing him at like twenty. I'm like, no, thank you, no thank you, not against this field. But look, maybe that's all it takes for Robert McIntyre. You know he got stemy last year when Rory oh ways, I'm able to hit that two iron made that birdie on eighteen, and this year he did the same thing to Adam Scott. Robert McIntyre did got a fortunate break, he did say on that drop on the par five, but still had to hit the shot to six feet and make the eagle.

So I'm not dead set against it. I'm not fading him necessarily.

Are we getting forty?

Got forty one?

Yeah, I don't mind.

I don't know where he showed up in your stuff, West, but I would say he's kind of twenties for me as far as ratings this week. So you know, I'll get forty to one. Yeah, I got still a decent number.

Now you can get four to seventy five to one on some guy named Eldrick Woods.

Now.

He was asked at his press conference about some comments that Colin Montgomery said, where he said, you know, what's the Colin paraphrasing, what's the point of Tiger being here?

He should retire? What is the point of this process? Tiger? And I know, Wes you heard it too.

He fired back and said in summary, well, you know, I've won this tournament, so I'm exempt till I'm sixty.

He's not.

I mean there was some vim and vigor in his comeback to Colin Montgomery.

And when I hear that, Wes, I hear a guy that still doesn't want to become a ceremonial golfer.

Yeah, yeah, look at and and MANI, you know, was saying that the quote got taken out of context. I don't know that, but look, that's always the thing that that hurts MANI in terms of his great career is that he never won a major.

That's it.

And you know, and the Tiger certainly is certainly fired back. So he says, as a pass champion, I'm exempted until I'm sixty.

Colin is not, and of discussion, shots fired.

And I look at that, Kelly, and it just says to me that whether we think he's done or not, he doesn't believe he's.

Which we all love. I mean, come on, if you love golf like we all love that, like that is. I don't want to say I'd be willing to lose all my money, but I mean, if there's one guy who's going to ruin my open betting card, Tiger.

It's one thing if he never wins again, but it's another thing. You don't want to see him totally as a broken down old man, right, you don't want to see that. And you know he said his fitness is better. But look, this is going to be a little tougher though, because it gets cold and rainy, and dasty. You know, it's different when it's hot and you've got a flat course, and he's totally fit to do that for four rounds.

You know, we shall see this week.

Bad Port does concern me a bit West because remember how much he kept saying that what was that at the US Open about it's hot?

Like that helps me? He kept bringing back.

And that's a slog man. And I see most shops haven't matched up against Phil Phil about a dollar twenty five dollars, thirty favorites like plus one oh five plus one ten on Tiger. Yeah.

Weather, it's for certainly when you get older, don't I know it? It is Weather can be a factor out there on the golf course for you, not just for him. Phil is in the tournament, as you mentioned, seventeen live guys.

In all, seventeen and all, yes, one hundred and fifty eight total in this field.

So gentlemen, it should be a great four days. Will you all be losing sleep over the next four days?

I will be more than likely we'll be firing up the peacock overnight. You know, maybe maybe catch an episode of Days of Our Lives before we watch the Open.

Something.

But USA and then NBC, so all the different coverage. May try to find a pirate feed of Sky Sports over in the UK because I don't believe they take commercial breaks.

As long as I.

Can figure out when this thing starts with the time change, then I will be waking up in the middle of the night to.

Watch this golf as well.

Appreciate you guys.

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