Bryce sits down with his friend Kevin Kru of White Rose Resistance, the Christian pro-life organization co-founded with Seth Gruber. Kevin — who came from a business coaching and consulting background before joining full-time — opens up about leadership, healthy conflict, and what it takes to help run a fast-growing, distinctly masculine pro-life movement alongside strong personalities like Seth Gruber and AJ Hurley.

He shares his own story of how the Center for Medical Progress undercover videos and the rise of ISIS pushed him to get involved, and how that eventually led him from doing marketing and podcast production for Seth to joining White Rose full-time. Kevin and Bryce dig into what separates White Rose from other pro-life organizations — a focus on genuinely changing culture rather than just making noise — and the theology behind why they believe the church needs to reclaim its role as "salt and light" in the culture.

The back half of the conversation centers on White Rose's new film, "The Last Stand," which traces how the early church responded to infanticide in Rome through to the modern day, and how churches can bring a screening to their own congregation. Kevin also makes a direct appeal to pastors on why avoiding the topic of abortion does their congregations a disservice, and closes with how listeners can support White Rose Resistance's work — both financially and through their activism arm.

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