Natalie Bassingthwaighte is one of Australia's best-known entertainers, thanks to her years in musical theatre, starring role on soap Neighbours and fronting dance act Rogue Traders.

This week, Nat joins me on Let’s Be Real for one of her most raw and honest conversations yet.

After years in the spotlight, Natalie opens up about the story behind the headlines, and what it was really like to unravel the version of herself she had been living for so long.

Natalie speaks candidly about juggling fame, motherhood, marriage, co-parenting, coming out later in life, and the terrifying but freeing process of choosing authenticity.

She opens up about the moment that changed her life while performing in the stage production of Jagged Little Pill, the “electric” connection she felt when she met her now-fiancée Pip, and the reality of navigating such a deeply personal journey as the world watched.

This is a conversation about heartbreak, healing, identity, blended families, public pressure, therapy, and learning to honour your heart.

You can read more about Nat's story in her book Love Like This, which is out now.

LINKS 
Follow Emilee on Instagram (@emileehembrow) and TikTok (@emileehembrowofficial)
Follow Natalie (@natbassingthwaighte) on Instagram
Grab Natalie's book 'Love Like This' in stores now
Check out the 'Love Like This' audiobook here
Catch Nat live on tour with Rogue Traders
Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on YouTube
Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. 

CREDITS 
Host: Emilee Hembrow 
Guest: Natalie Bassingthwaighte
Executive Producer: Damien Haffenden 
Recorded at:Pivotal Conversations Gold Coast 

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au 

Natalie Bassingthwaighte is one of Australia's best-known entertainers, thanks to her years in musical theatre, starring role on soap Neighbours and fronting dance act Rogue Traders.
This week, Nat joins me on Let&rsquo;s Be Real for one of her most raw and honest conversations yet.
After years in the spotlight, Natalie opens up about the story behind the headlines,&nbsp;and what it was really like to unravel the version of herself she had been living for so long.
Natalie speaks candidly about juggling fame, motherhood, marriage, co-parenting, coming out later in life, and the terrifying but freeing process of choosing authenticity.
She opens up about the moment that changed her life while performing in the stage production of Jagged Little Pill, the &ldquo;electric&rdquo; connection she felt when she met her now-fianc&eacute;e Pip, and the reality of navigating such a deeply personal journey as the world watched.
This is a conversation about heartbreak, healing, identity, blended families, public pressure, therapy, and learning to honour your heart.
You can read more about Nat's story in her book Love Like This, which is out now.
LINKS&nbsp;
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<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Emilee on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emileehembrow/">Instagram</a>&nbsp;(@emileehembrow) and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@emileehembrowofficial">TikTok</a> (@emileehembrowofficial)</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Natalie (@natbassingthwaighte) on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/natbassingthwaighte">Instagram</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Grab Natalie's book 'Love Like This' <a href="https://panterapress.lnk.to/LoveLikeThis">in stores now</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Check out the 'Love Like This' <a href="https://www.audible.com.au/pd/Love-Like-This-Audiobook/B0GFXMTXR9">audiobook here</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Catch Nat live on tour with <a href="https://www.roguetraders.net/">Rogue Traders</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXMj4sYi38By8VRLVx8M5uBCewhOKKHM7">YouTube</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content &ndash; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>.&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
CREDITS&nbsp; Host:&nbsp;Emilee&nbsp;Hembrow&nbsp; Guest: Natalie Bassingthwaighte Executive Producer:&nbsp;Damien Haffenden&nbsp; Recorded at: <a href="https://www.pivotalconversations.ai/">Pivotal Conversations</a> Gold Coast&nbsp;
Find more great podcasts like this at <a href="http://novapodcasts.com.au/">novapodcasts.com.au</a>&nbsp;

Life doesn’t come with a rulebook, but it does come with lessons, stories, and conversations that shape who we are. 

Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia’s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to ‘have it all.’

Whether you’re chasing kids, dreams or deadlines it’s time for us to get honest about the juggle of modern life.

Life doesn&rsquo;t come with a rulebook, but it does come with lessons, stories, and conversations that shape who we are.&nbsp;
Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia&rsquo;s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to &lsquo;have it all.&rsquo;
Whether you&rsquo;re chasing kids, dreams or deadlines it&rsquo;s time for us to get honest about the juggle of modern life.

Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia’s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to ‘have it all.’

Let's Be Real

Life doesn’t come with a rulebook, but it does come with lessons, stories, and conversations that shape who we are.

Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia’s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to ‘have it all.’

Whether you’re chasing kids, dreams or deadlines it’s time for us to get honest about the juggle of modern life. 

Life doesn&rsquo;t come with a rulebook, but it does come with lessons, stories, and conversations that shape who we are.
Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia&rsquo;s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to &lsquo;have it all.&rsquo;
Whether you&rsquo;re chasing kids, dreams or deadlines it&rsquo;s time for us to get honest about the juggle of modern life.&nbsp;

Natalie Bassingthwaighte on Coming Out, Co-Parenting & Living Authentically

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/8c3156e6-4626-44f4-9ce4-b41d000696ee/transcript

Most people think they know Carina Mirabile from the hit TV series Married At First Sight… but what you see on screen is only part of the story.

In this episode, Carina joins me for a raw and unfiltered conversation about what really happens behind the scenes of reality TV — from strict rules and emotional pressures, to the mental toll of being watched (and judged) by millions.

She opens up about spending her own money to keep up her on-screen image, the truth about her relationship with Paul on MAFS, and why the experience changed the way she sees love, identity, and herself.

We also dive into the darker side of fame — online trolling, anxiety, and what dating looks like after reality TV in a world of apps and questionable intentions.

Can't get enough Married At First Sight? Check out the MAFS Funny Podcast.

LINKS 
Follow Emilee on Instagram (@emileehembrow) and TikTok (@emileehembrowofficial)
Follow Carina (@carinamirabile) on Instagram
Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on YouTube
Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. 

CREDITS 
Host: Emilee Hembrow 
Guest: Carina Mirabile
Executive Producer: Damien Haffenden

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au 

Most people think they know Carina Mirabile from the hit TV series <a href="https://www.9now.com.au/married-at-first-sight/season-12">Married At First Sight</a>&hellip; but what you see on screen is only part of the story.
In this episode, Carina joins me for a raw and unfiltered conversation about what really happens behind the scenes of reality TV &mdash; from strict rules and emotional pressures, to the mental toll of being watched (and judged) by millions.
She opens up about spending her own money to keep up her on-screen image, the truth about her relationship with Paul&nbsp;on MAFS, and why the experience changed the way she sees love, identity, and herself.
We also dive into the darker side of fame &mdash; online trolling, anxiety, and what dating looks like after reality TV in a world of apps and questionable intentions.
Can't get enough Married At First Sight? Check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://novafm.com.au/podcast/mafs-funny-podcast/bd199b78-91b0-4cea-900a-3f97391c41b8">MAFS Funny Podcast</a>.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Emilee on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emileehembrow/">Instagram</a>&nbsp;(@emileehembrow) and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@emileehembrowofficial">TikTok</a> (@emileehembrowofficial)</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Carina (@carinamirabile) on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/carinamirabile/">Instagram</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXMj4sYi38By8VRLVx8M5uBCewhOKKHM7">YouTube</a></li>
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</ul>
CREDITS&nbsp; Host:&nbsp;Emilee&nbsp;Hembrow&nbsp; Guest: Carina Mirabile Executive Producer:&nbsp;Damien Haffenden
Find more great podcasts like this at <a href="http://novapodcasts.com.au/">novapodcasts.com.au</a>&nbsp;

Life After 'Married At First Sight': Carina Mirabile Spills The Tea

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/5625da9f-0c43-4a97-9d77-b432005e92ee/transcript

This episode deals with suicide, bullying and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised.

Elsana Lower is a nurse, a mindset coach and a mum. In the last episode, she shared the raw reality of losing her teenage daughter Rylee to suicide following abuse and online bullying.

In the deeply moving conclusion to our conversation, Elsana Lower explores the transformative power of forgiveness and the mindset required to survive the unimaginable. This episode dives into the mechanics of 'learning to live and grieve simultaneously', offering a roadmap for anyone sitting in the "depths of hell" and is searching for a reason to choose life.

Elsana discusses how choosing forgiveness was not a gift to those who hurt her daughter, but a necessary disconnection to save her own life and release her attachment to their outcomes. She also talks about the importance of breaking self-isolation by showing up for social connections, even when your "social battery" feels empty, and using gratitude to retrain the brain to look for the "best part of the day," making it harder for the mind to dwell on the negative.

Listen to Part One of this conversation here.

SUPPORT:
If this episode raises concerns for yourself or a loved one, help is available:
Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800 or https://kidshelpline.com.au/
Lifeline - 13 11 14 or https://www.lifeline.org.au/
Beyond Blue - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/

RESOURCES:
Online and social media info for parents: https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents
Bullying support: https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support 

LINKS 
Follow Emilee on Instagram (@emileehembrow) and TikTok (@emileehembrowofficial)
Follow Eslana (@eslanalower) on Instagram
Listen to Eslana's podcast 'Why Mindset Matters'
Check out Eslana's book 'Resilience After Great Loss'
Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on YouTube
Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. 

CREDITS 
Host: Emilee Hembrow 
Guest: Eslana Lower
Executive Producer: Damien Haffenden
Recorded at:Pivotal Conversations Gold Coast 

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au 

This episode deals with suicide, bullying and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
Elsana Lower is a nurse, a mindset coach and a mum. In the last episode, she shared the raw reality of losing her teenage daughter Rylee to suicide following abuse and online bullying.
In the deeply moving conclusion to our conversation, Elsana Lower explores the transformative power of forgiveness and the mindset required to survive the unimaginable. This episode dives into the mechanics of 'learning to live and grieve simultaneously', offering a roadmap for anyone sitting in the "depths of hell" and is searching for a reason to choose life.
Elsana discusses how choosing forgiveness was not a gift to those who hurt her daughter, but a necessary disconnection to save her own life and release her attachment to their outcomes. She also talks about the importance of breaking self-isolation by showing up for social connections, even when your "social battery" feels empty, and using gratitude to retrain the brain to look for the "best part of the day," making it harder for the mind to dwell on the negative.
Listen to Part One of this conversation <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/lets-be-real/when-bullying-turns-deadly-a-story-every-parent-needs-to-hear">here</a>.
SUPPORT: If this episode raises concerns for yourself or a loved one, help is available: Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800 or <a href="https://kidshelpline.com.au/">https://kidshelpline.com.au/</a> Lifeline - 13 11 14 or <a href="https://www.lifeline.org.au/">https://www.lifeline.org.au/</a> Beyond Blue - <a href="https://www.beyondblue.org.au/">https://www.beyondblue.org.au/</a> RESOURCES: Online and social media info for parents: <a href="https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents">https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents</a> Bullying support: <a href="https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support">https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support</a>&nbsp;
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Emilee on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emileehembrow/">Instagram</a>&nbsp;(@emileehembrow) and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@emileehembrowofficial">TikTok</a> (@emileehembrowofficial)</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Eslana (@eslanalower) on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eslanalower/">Instagram</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Listen to Eslana's podcast '<a href="https://whymindsetmatters.buzzsprout.com/2506981">Why Mindset Matters</a>'</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Check out Eslana's book '<a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/resilience-after-great-loss-learning-to-live-grieve-simultaneously-lower/book/9781764280518.html">Resilience After Great Loss</a>'</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXMj4sYi38By8VRLVx8M5uBCewhOKKHM7">YouTube</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content &ndash; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>.&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
CREDITS&nbsp; Host:&nbsp;Emilee&nbsp;Hembrow&nbsp; Guest: Eslana Lower Executive Producer:&nbsp;Damien Haffenden Recorded at: <a href="https://www.pivotalconversations.ai/">Pivotal Conversations</a> Gold Coast&nbsp;
Find more great podcasts like this at <a href="http://novapodcasts.com.au/">novapodcasts.com.au</a>&nbsp;

Healing After Heartbreak: 'Saying Yes To Grief' with Eslana Lower (Part 2)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/9449d1d5-115a-4f2c-a75d-b42d001c6dd1/transcript

This episode deals with suicide, bullying and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised.

This is one of the most raw and heartbreaking conversations I’ve ever had.

In this deeply emotional episode, I sit down with resilience coach, nurse and mother Elsana Lower, who opens up about the unimaginable loss of her 15-year-old daughter, Rylee.

It's a powerful and confronting story about the very real dangers of online bullying, grooming, and the devastating ripple effects of teen suicide. Elsana courageously walks us through the events leading up to that night, the warning signs that she missed, and the reality many parents aren’t prepared for.

But within her grief, Eslana ultimately found the power of resilience through forgiveness and healing, and renewed purposed in sharing her story and what it takes to keep going after such a devastating loss.

Listen to Part 2 of this story here.

SUPPORT:
If this episode raises concerns for yourself or a loved one, help is available:
Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800 or https://kidshelpline.com.au/
Lifeline - 13 11 14 or https://www.lifeline.org.au/
Beyond Blue - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/

RESOURCES:
Online and social media info for parents: https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents
Bullying support: https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support 

LINKS 
Follow Emilee on Instagram (@emileehembrow) and TikTok (@emileehembrowofficial)
Follow Eslana (@eslanalower) on Instagram
Listen to Eslana's podcast 'Why Mindset Matters'
Check out Eslana's book 'Resilience After Great Loss'
Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on YouTube
Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. 

CREDITS 
Host: Emilee Hembrow 
Guest: Eslana Lower
Executive Producer: Damien Haffenden
Recorded at:Pivotal Conversations Gold Coast 

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au 

This episode deals with suicide, bullying and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
This is one of the most raw and heartbreaking conversations I&rsquo;ve ever had.
In this deeply emotional episode, I sit down with resilience coach, nurse and mother Elsana Lower, who opens up about the unimaginable loss of her 15-year-old daughter, Rylee.
It's a powerful and confronting story about the very real dangers of online bullying, grooming, and the devastating ripple effects of teen suicide. Elsana courageously walks us through the events leading up to that night, the warning signs that she missed, and the reality many parents aren&rsquo;t prepared for.
But within her grief, Eslana ultimately found the power of resilience through forgiveness and healing, and renewed purposed in sharing her story and what it takes to keep going after such a devastating loss.
Listen to Part 2 of this story <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/lets-be-real/healing-after-heartbreak-saying-yes-to-grief-with-eslana-lower">here</a>.
SUPPORT: If this episode raises concerns for yourself or a loved one, help is available: Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800 or <a href="https://kidshelpline.com.au/">https://kidshelpline.com.au/</a> Lifeline - 13 11 14 or <a href="https://www.lifeline.org.au/">https://www.lifeline.org.au/</a> Beyond Blue - <a href="https://www.beyondblue.org.au/">https://www.beyondblue.org.au/</a> RESOURCES: Online and social media info for parents: <a href="https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents">https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents</a> Bullying support: <a href="https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support">https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support</a>&nbsp;
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CREDITS&nbsp; Host:&nbsp;Emilee&nbsp;Hembrow&nbsp; Guest: Eslana Lower Executive Producer:&nbsp;Damien Haffenden Recorded at: <a href="https://www.pivotalconversations.ai/">Pivotal Conversations</a> Gold Coast&nbsp;
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