Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from “all-knowing” to “all-learning.” He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025

Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from &ldquo;all-knowing&rdquo; to &ldquo;all-learning.&rdquo; He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world. Publishes every other Monday.

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world. Publishes every other Monday.

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world.

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Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty

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How do you turn around a struggling industrial giant? On this episode of Leaders With Francine Lacqua, Rolls-Royce CEO Tufan Erginbilgiç explains the decisions, mindset shifts and leadership principles behind the UK enginemaker’s comeback — and why he believes British businesses must be willing to challenge old habits to stay competitive.

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How do you turn around a struggling industrial giant? On this episode of Leaders With Francine Lacqua, Rolls-Royce CEO Tufan Erginbilgi&ccedil; explains the decisions, mindset shifts and leadership principles behind the UK enginemaker&rsquo;s comeback &mdash; and why he believes British businesses must be willing to challenge old habits to stay competitive. Watch the interview: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0PAxeoWOBGj6M7GXhXQmdn6
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Rolls-Royce CEO Tufan Erginbilgiç Shares His Turnaround Playbook 

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In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with Rolls-Royce CEO Tufan Erginbilgiç. Here's a preview of that conversation, in which he reflects on the responsibility of restoring one of Britain’s most important industrial brands, arguing that Rolls-Royce’s turnaround shows other UK companies the importance of fixing broken business models, rejecting mediocrity and empowering employees with a clear sense of purpose.

In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with Rolls-Royce CEO Tufan Erginbilgi&ccedil;. Here's a preview of that conversation, in which he reflects on the responsibility of restoring one of Britain&rsquo;s most important industrial brands, arguing that Rolls-Royce&rsquo;s turnaround shows other UK companies the importance of fixing broken business models, rejecting mediocrity and empowering employees with a clear sense of purpose.

Preview: Rolls-Royce CEO Tufan Erginbilgiç on Transforming a British icon

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What does it take to lead through a near-disaster and turn it into a $14 billion win? In this episode, Blackstone President and Chief Operating Officer Jon Gray shares lessons from the financial crisis, revealing why staying calm, backing the right businesses and building trust can make or break a leader. He also opens up about shaping culture, retaining top talent and leading with humanity—offering a rare inside look at how one of the world’s biggest investment firms navigates uncertainty.

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What does it take to lead through a near-disaster and turn it into a $14 billion win? In this episode, Blackstone President and Chief Operating Officer Jon Gray shares lessons from the financial crisis, revealing why staying calm, backing the right businesses and building trust can make or break a leader. He also opens up about shaping culture, retaining top talent and leading with humanity&mdash;offering a rare inside look at how one of the world&rsquo;s biggest investment firms navigates uncertainty. Watch the interview:&nbsp; https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0PAxeoWOBGj6M7GXhXQmdn6 Read more on management and work: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/management-work">https://www.bloomberg.com/management-work</a>

Blackstone's Jon Gray on Building a $1.3 Trillion Wall Street Giant 

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Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty

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