Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from “all-knowing” to “all-learning.” He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025

Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from &ldquo;all-knowing&rdquo; to &ldquo;all-learning.&rdquo; He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world. Publishes every other Monday.

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world. Publishes every other Monday.

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world.

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Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty

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After spending decades advising CEOs and studying leadership, Harvard Business School professor and author Linda Hill has developed a clear view of what makes great leaders—and where many fall short. In this episode of Leaders with Francine Lacqua, Hill explains why today's most successful executives prioritize collaboration over charisma, embrace constructive conflict and create organizations that can adapt to constant change. She also shares how artificial intelligence is reshaping leadership and the skills the next generation of executives will need to thrive. 

After spending decades advising CEOs and studying leadership, Harvard Business School professor and author Linda Hill has developed a clear view of what makes great leaders&mdash;and where many fall short. In this episode of Leaders with Francine Lacqua, Hill explains why today's most successful executives prioritize collaboration over charisma, embrace constructive conflict and create organizations that can adapt to constant change. She also shares how artificial intelligence is reshaping leadership and the skills the next generation of executives will need to thrive.&nbsp;

Harvard's Linda Hill on the Leadership Mistake That's Killing Innovation 

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In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with Harvard Business School Professor, Linda Hill. Here's a preview of their chat, where Hill talks about how high levels of emotional intelligence can empower those around you to make decisions. 

Check out the full interview when it drops on August 17. 

In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with&nbsp;Harvard Business School Professor, Linda Hill. Here's a preview of their chat, where Hill talks about how high levels of emotional intelligence can empower those around you to make decisions.&nbsp; Check out the full interview when it drops on August 17.&nbsp;

Preview: Harvard Professor Linda Hill on Emotional Intelligence in Action

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Amanda Staveley has spent decades connecting Middle East investors with Britain's biggest dealmaking opportunities. On Leaders with Francine Lacqua, the PCP Capital Partners chief executive describes how she started out, the negotiations behind the Manchester City and Newcastle United deals and the historic rescue of Barclays during the financial crisis.

This interview was recorded before Bloomberg and others reported that a consortium that Amanda Staveley leads has agreed to buy a 25% stake in English club West Ham United for £150 million. 

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Amanda Staveley has spent decades connecting Middle East investors with Britain's biggest dealmaking opportunities. On Leaders with Francine Lacqua, the PCP Capital Partners chief executive describes how she started out, the negotiations behind the Manchester City and Newcastle United deals and the historic rescue of Barclays during the financial crisis. This interview was recorded before Bloomberg and others reported that a consortium that Amanda Staveley leads has agreed to buy a 25% stake in English club West Ham United for &pound;150 million.&nbsp; <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-01/amanda-staveley-agrees-west-ham-stake-teeing-up-clash-with-kretinsky?utm_source=website&amp;utm_medium=share&amp;utm_campaign=copy">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-01/amanda-staveley-agrees-west-ham-stake-teeing-up-clash-with-kretinsky?utm_source=website&amp;utm_medium=share&amp;utm_campaign=copy</a>&nbsp;

Amanda Staveley: The UK Dealmaker Who Helped Transform Football 

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Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty

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