Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from “all-knowing” to “all-learning.” He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025

Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from &ldquo;all-knowing&rdquo; to &ldquo;all-learning.&rdquo; He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world. Publishes every other Monday.

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world. Publishes every other Monday.

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world.

Leaders with Francine Lacqua

Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty

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In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with Jon Gray, president and chief operating officer of Blackstone Group. Here's a preview of that conversation, in which he talks about leading Blackstone's leveraged buyout of Hilton Hotels, which after a difficult road became the most profitable private equity real estate deal ever.

In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with Jon Gray, president and chief operating officer of Blackstone Group. Here's a preview of that conversation, in which he talks about leading Blackstone's leveraged buyout of Hilton Hotels, which after a difficult road became the most profitable private equity real estate deal ever.

Preview: Blackstone's Jon Gray on the Moment His Career Could Have Ended

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Francine Lacqua sits down with Emma Grede—the power behind Good American and a founding partner of Skims—to unpack what it really takes to build a billion-dollar brand. Grede goes beyond the headlines, revealing the chaos behind her $1 million launch day and the mindset that helped her push through challenges. From "radical honesty" in leadership to bold views on work, ambition and success, she reveals the principles that have shaped her rise—and why she’s now stepping into the spotlight to help others do the same.

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Francine Lacqua sits down with Emma Grede&mdash;the power behind Good American and a founding partner of Skims&mdash;to unpack what it really takes to build a billion-dollar brand. Grede goes beyond the headlines, revealing the chaos behind her $1 million launch day and the mindset that helped her push through challenges. From "radical honesty" in leadership to bold views on work, ambition and success, she reveals the principles that have shaped her rise&mdash;and why she&rsquo;s now stepping into the spotlight to help others do the same. Check out more interviews: http://bloomberg.com/leaderswithlacqua Read more on management and work: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/management-work">https://www.bloomberg.com/management-work</a>

Emma Grede on the Kardashians and Why Work From Home Is ‘Career Suicide'

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In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with Emma Grede, chief executive and co-founder of Good American and founding partner of loungewear and shapewear brand Skims. Here's a preview of that conversation where she shares the realities behind early success, why hiring adaptable, flexible thinkers matters more than rigid experience, and how the people you need evolve as a company grows.

In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with Emma Grede, chief executive and co-founder of Good American and founding partner of loungewear and shapewear brand Skims. Here's a preview of that conversation where she shares the realities behind early success, why hiring adaptable, flexible thinkers matters more than rigid experience, and how the people you need evolve as a company grows.

Preview: Skims Founding Partner Emma Grede on What It Takes to Grow from $10m to $100m

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Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty

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