When there’s a water trine on Las Cultch?! You know you gotta get into it! Matt & Bow are thrilled to welcome artist and author Tourmaline to the podcast to discuss her latest work, a stunning autobiography on Marsha P Johnson called Marsha: The Joy and Defiance of Marsha P. Johnson that is also a gorgeous queer history of New York. The three discuss Marsha’s originality and iconography, the history of Christopher St and the west village and how to maintain hope and joy in increasingly dark times for the queer community. Also, seeing Eddie Murphy films with dad as a kid, how jealousy can often be a great indicator, and immersion and world-building in art. Get Bowen to the Met Gala! Make Times Square horny again! Turn up the volume on your life! Shout it through the grapevine: Tourmaline’s incredible book is out May 20th, and Las Cultch is so lucky to have her this week!