This is the 21st episode of Keeping Kids Safe - A Bright Futures podcast by the Daniel Morcombe Foundation, featuring Bruce and Denise Morcombe.

In this episode we’re going to find out how a former counterintelligence special agent for the US Army and the FBI is now using his diverse investigative skills to crack down on cyber crime - including the criminals targeting children online. Dr Dennis Desmond specialises in international and state sponsored cyber threats - and his research is finding that the processes used by criminals to launder cryptocurrencies on the dark net are now being used increasingly for online child abuse. He tells us how platforms such as Reddit and Twitch are being used to groom and recruit  young people into criminal underworlds and even terrorist groups, and what parents should do about this dangerous trend. That includes the danger signs parents should look out for and what strategies they can use to counter this, particularly - as he describes it - how parents should actively become their child’s first line of defence.

It’s time for difficult conversations to shine light on this hidden topic. This podcast talks openly about child abuse, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation and harmful sexual behaviours. 

Each episode of this series will feature practical insights on how to teach your child safety in the world today. 

REMINDER: As Denise says in the podcast - Take care when listening. Please contact Lifeline if you need support after listening to this, on 13 1114 or you can call 1800 Respect.

GET IN TOUCH

This podcast is produced by Nance Haxton with production assistance from Michael Adams. To get in touch with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation about any of the information shared in this podcast, go to https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/ or phone 1300 326 435

CREDITS

Host: Nance Haxton 

With thanks to Dr Dennis Desmond


ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:

The Daniel Morcombe Foundation - 1300 326 435 or https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/

This is the 21st episode of Keeping Kids Safe - A Bright Futures podcast by the Daniel Morcombe Foundation, featuring Bruce and Denise Morcombe.   In this episode we’re going to find out how a former counterintelligence special agent for the US Army and the FBI is now using his diverse investigative skills to crack down on cyber crime - including the criminals targeting children online. Dr Dennis Desmond specialises in international and state sponsored cyber threats - and his research is finding that the processes used by criminals to launder cryptocurrencies on the dark net are now being used increasingly for online child abuse. He tells us how platforms such as Reddit and Twitch are being used to groom and recruit  young people into criminal underworlds and even terrorist groups, and what parents should do about this dangerous trend. That includes the danger signs parents should look out for and what strategies they can use to counter this, particularly - as he describes it - how parents should actively become their child’s first line of defence.
It’s time for difficult conversations to shine light on this hidden topic. This podcast talks openly about child abuse, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation and harmful sexual behaviours.    Each episode of this series will feature practical insights on how to teach your child safety in the world today.    REMINDER: As Denise says in the podcast - Take care when listening. Please contact Lifeline if you need support after listening to this, on 13 1114 or you can call 1800 Respect.   GET IN TOUCH   This podcast is produced by Nance Haxton with production assistance from Michael Adams. To get in touch with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation about any of the information shared in this podcast, go to https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/ or phone 1300 326 435
CREDITS   Host: Nance Haxton    With thanks to Dr Dennis Desmond
  ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:
The Daniel Morcombe Foundation - 1300 326 435 or <a href="https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/">https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/</a>

Brought to you by the Daniel Morcombe Foundation

Brought to you by the Daniel Morcombe Foundation

Keeping Kids Safe

The hidden dangers to children in online gaming with Dr Dennis Desmond

This is the 30th episode of Keeping Kids Safe - A Bright Futures podcast by the Daniel Morcombe Foundation, featuring Bruce and Denise Morcombe.

Today we hear from a researcher who has single-handedly revolutionised worldwide thinking of the best approaches to keeping children safe from harm.

Professor Carlene Firmin from Durham University in the UK is known internationally for her work in what she has termed “contextual safeguarding”, which describes a vision for improving responses to young people at risk that goes beyond the current focus on their family homes. 

Her work has transformed the response of child welfare systems in the UK and beyond, and shown a need for a complete overhaul of child-protection systems around the world. 

Professor Firmin has researched young people’s experiences of community and group-based violence since 2008, finding that many public spaces are inherently unsafe for children, and that more comprehensive approaches are needed as a society to protect them.

She argues that exploitation, peer-abuse and street-based violence directly affecting young people shows a need to look beyond parents and families, if we want to protect children from the risks they face outside their front doors.

It's time for difficult conversations to shine light on this hidden topic. This podcast talks openly about child abuse, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation and harmful sexual behaviours.

Each episode of this series will feature practical insights on how to teach your child safety in the world today. 

REMINDER:

As Denise says in the podcast - Take care when listening. Please contact Lifeline if you need support after listening to this, on 13 1114 or you can call 1800 Respect.

GET IN TOUCH:

This podcast is produced by Nance Haxton with production assistance from Michael Adams. To get in touch with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation about any of the information shared in this podcast, go to https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/ or phone 1300 326 435

CREDIT:

Host: Nance Haxton 

With thanks to Professor Carlene Firmin

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:

The Daniel Morcombe Foundation - 1300 326 435 or https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/

This is the 30th episode of Keeping Kids Safe - A Bright Futures podcast by the Daniel Morcombe Foundation, featuring Bruce and Denise Morcombe.
Today we hear from a researcher who has single-handedly revolutionised worldwide thinking of the best approaches to keeping children safe from harm.
Professor Carlene Firmin from Durham University in the UK is known internationally for her work in what she has termed “contextual safeguarding”, which describes a vision for improving responses to young people at risk that goes beyond the current focus on their family homes. 
Her work has transformed the response of child welfare systems in the UK and beyond, and shown a need for a complete overhaul of child-protection systems around the world. 
Professor Firmin has researched young people’s experiences of community and group-based violence since 2008, finding that many public spaces are inherently unsafe for children, and that more comprehensive approaches are needed as a society to protect them.
She argues that exploitation, peer-abuse and street-based violence directly affecting young people shows a need to look beyond parents and families, if we want to protect children from the risks they face outside their front doors.
It's time for difficult conversations to shine light on this hidden topic. This podcast talks openly about child abuse, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation and harmful sexual behaviours.
Each episode of this series will feature practical insights on how to teach your child safety in the world today.    REMINDER:
As Denise says in the podcast - Take care when listening. Please contact Lifeline if you need support after listening to this, on 13 1114 or you can call 1800 Respect.   GET IN TOUCH:   This podcast is produced by Nance Haxton with production assistance from Michael Adams. To get in touch with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation about any of the information shared in this podcast, go to https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/ or phone 1300 326 435   CREDIT:
Host: Nance Haxton    With thanks to Professor Carlene Firmin
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:
The Daniel Morcombe Foundation - 1300 326 435 or <a href="https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/">https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/</a>

Child protection beyond the family home: Contextual safeguarding with Carlene Firmin

Today on Keeping Kids Safe - A Bright Futures podcast for the Daniel Morcombe Foundation - we’re going to deep dive into how to help young people overcome harmful sexual behaviours.

In this episode we go to Adelaide, to the Daniel Morcombe Foundation’s Bright Futures forum, to hear the latest research from four experts in this field, and what parents and carers need to be aware of.

Firstly we hear from Alan Jenkins who has worked in the space of addressing violence and abusive behaviour for more than 35 years. He was the director of NADA consulting - an independent service that provides intervention in family abuse and workplace harassment.

We also hear from Professor Dale Tolliday, an internationally renowned researcher and practitioner, who has more than three decades of experience working with people who have sexually harmed others and was awarded an Order of Australia medal in 2014 in recognition of this work.

We then go to Dr Deirdre Thompson who is the director of therapeutic and support services at Bravehearts. She was instrumental in developing the Turning Corners program which provides early intervention for young people around harmful sexual behaviours.

And finally we hear from DrTessa Opie who is the founder of `inyourskin’ and an advocate for healthy consenting relationships, working as an expert consultant for several Education Departments helping young people navigate best practice consent education and preventing sexual assault.

It's time for difficult conversations to shine light on this hidden topic. This podcast talks openly about child abuse, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation and harmful sexual behaviours. 

Each episode of this series will feature practical insights on how to teach your child safety in the world today. 

REMINDER: As Denise says in the podcast - Take care when listening. Please contact Lifeline if you need support after listening to this, on 13 1114 or you can call 1800 Respect.

GET IN TOUCH

This podcast is produced by Nance Haxton with production assistance from Michael Adams. To get in touch with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation about any of the information shared in this podcast, go to https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/ or phone 1300 326 435

CREDITS

Host: Nance Haxton 

With thanks to Alan Jenkins, Professor Dale Tolliday, Dr Deirdre Thompson and Dr Tessa Opie


ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:

The Daniel Morcombe Foundation - 1300 326 435 or https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/

Today on Keeping Kids Safe - A Bright Futures podcast for the Daniel Morcombe Foundation - we’re going to deep dive into how to help young people overcome harmful sexual behaviours.
In this episode we go to Adelaide, to the Daniel Morcombe Foundation’s Bright Futures forum, to hear the latest research from four experts in this field, and what parents and carers need to be aware of.
Firstly we hear from Alan Jenkins who has worked in the space of addressing violence and abusive behaviour for more than 35 years. He was the director of NADA consulting - an independent service that provides intervention in family abuse and workplace harassment.
We also hear from Professor Dale Tolliday, an internationally renowned researcher and practitioner, who has more than three decades of experience working with people who have sexually harmed others and was awarded an Order of Australia medal in 2014 in recognition of this work.
We then go to Dr Deirdre Thompson who is the director of therapeutic and support services at Bravehearts. She was instrumental in developing the Turning Corners program which provides early intervention for young people around harmful sexual behaviours.
And finally we hear from Dr Tessa Opie who is the founder of `inyourskin’ and an advocate for healthy consenting relationships, working as an expert consultant for several Education Departments helping young people navigate best practice consent education and preventing sexual assault.
It's time for difficult conversations to shine light on this hidden topic. This podcast talks openly about child abuse, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation and harmful sexual behaviours.    Each episode of this series will feature practical insights on how to teach your child safety in the world today.    REMINDER: As Denise says in the podcast - Take care when listening. Please contact Lifeline if you need support after listening to this, on 13 1114 or you can call 1800 Respect.   GET IN TOUCH   This podcast is produced by Nance Haxton with production assistance from Michael Adams. To get in touch with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation about any of the information shared in this podcast, go to https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/ or phone 1300 326 435   CREDITS   Host: Nance Haxton    With thanks to Alan Jenkins, Professor Dale Tolliday, Dr Deirdre Thompson and Dr Tessa Opie
  ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:
The Daniel Morcombe Foundation - 1300 326 435 or <a href="https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/">https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/</a>

How to help young people overcome harmful sexual behaviours - an expert panel

Australian author Alice Perle is a courageous voice in a growing global conversation about Sibling Sexual Abuse. 

As a survivor of Sibling Sexual Abuse herself, Alice has now written about her experiences and combined that with the latest scientific research showing how the problem is far more widespread than many in society realise. 

Sibling Sexual Abuse is the most common form of child sexual abuse in families - at least three times more common than incest between a parent and child. 

However discussing the topic is one of society’s last taboos. That’s something that Alice Perle hopes to change on today’s episode of Keeping Kids Safe - A Bright Futures podcast.

By shining a light on Sibling Sexual Abuse, she hopes to  prevent more children from becoming victims, as well as take away the stigma and shame that so many survivors feel, so they can seek the help they need.

It’s time for difficult conversations to shine light on this hidden topic. This podcast talks openly about child abuse, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation and harmful sexual behaviours. 

Each episode of this series will feature practical insights on how to teach your child safety in the world today. 

REMINDER: As Denise says in the podcast - Take care when listening. Please contact Lifeline if you need support after listening to this, on 13 1114 or you can call 1800 Respect.

GET IN TOUCH

This podcast is produced by Nance Haxton with production assistance from Michael Adams. To get in touch with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation about any of the information shared in this podcast, go to https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/ or phone 1300 326 435

CREDITS

Host: Nance Haxton 

With thanks to Alice Perle 


ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:

The Daniel Morcombe Foundation - 1300 326 435 or https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/
5Waves Inc in the USA is 100% focused on sibling sexual abuse (SSA), by five women who are survivors of SSA or parents of siblings affected by SSA. They offer education, support and resources for every person affected, including those who abused their sibling in childhood. You’ll find them at both www.5waves.org and www.siblingsexualtrauma.com
5Waves also has a Facebook group: Parents Coping with Sibling Sexual Trauma and Abuse:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/siblingtrauma
www.EmpowerSurvivors.net in the USA has a podcast and two peer support groups on Facebook: Peer Support Group for Survivors of Sibling Childhood Sexual Abuse: https://www.facebook.com/groups/646423866554980
Innocence Lost – Adult Survivors of Childhood Trauma & Abuse: https://www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredtogether
www.IncestAware.org in the USA is an alliance of survivors, advocates, activists and support volunteers working to raise awareness. It offers services, education, and survivor stories.
Nancy Morris, a SSA survivor, psychology researcher and founder of #siblingstoo in Canada, began the annual international #Siblingstoo Day two years ago. Go to her website: www.siblingstoo.com where you can share your story anonymously, find events and a podcast. Nancy’s 2024 #SiblingsToo Day Resources Pack can be downloaded – with links to interviews with survivors, researchers and professionals working in the field of SSA.

Alice’s own calls to action are:

- Purchase a copy of Resolve, available in paperback, Kindle eBook, and audiobook formats on Amazon and all other online book and audiobook stores. You can also purchase signed copies of Resolve from the author if you live in Australia via www.aliceperle.com.au.

- Share Resolve with someone you know who may benefit from its insights and perspectives.

- Recommend Resolve to your local library, bricks-and-mortar bookstore, school or  other educational institutions, and community organisations to increase awareness and support for survivors of sibling sexual abuse.

- Invite Alice to speak on your podcast or radio show, at your school, workplace or event to educate others about the impact of sibling sexual abuse and how we can support and empower survivors.

- Host an Alice Perle Resolve discussion group or book club and invite Alice to facilitate or participate in the conversation.

- Leave a review: If Resolve resonated with you or provided valuable insights, consider leaving a review on Amazon, Audible, and Goodreads or sending it via email to Alice directly for her to share on social media or in her weekly blog, anonymously or otherwise: hello@aliceperle.com.au. Your feedback helps amplify the message and reach other survivors, allies, and advocates who may benefit from this resource.

- Follow Alice on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/resolvebyaliceperle

Australian author Alice Perle is a courageous voice in a growing global conversation about Sibling Sexual Abuse. 
As a survivor of Sibling Sexual Abuse herself, Alice has now written about her experiences and combined that with the latest scientific research showing how the problem is far more widespread than many in society realise. 
Sibling Sexual Abuse is the most common form of child sexual abuse in families - at least three times more common than incest between a parent and child. 
However discussing the topic is one of society’s last taboos. That’s something that Alice Perle hopes to change on today’s episode of Keeping Kids Safe - A Bright Futures podcast.
By shining a light on Sibling Sexual Abuse, she hopes to  prevent more children from becoming victims, as well as take away the stigma and shame that so many survivors feel, so they can seek the help they need.
It’s time for difficult conversations to shine light on this hidden topic. This podcast talks openly about child abuse, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation and harmful sexual behaviours.    Each episode of this series will feature practical insights on how to teach your child safety in the world today.    REMINDER: As Denise says in the podcast - Take care when listening. Please contact Lifeline if you need support after listening to this, on 13 1114 or you can call 1800 Respect.   GET IN TOUCH   This podcast is produced by Nance Haxton with production assistance from Michael Adams. To get in touch with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation about any of the information shared in this podcast, go to https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/ or phone 1300 326 435   CREDITS   Host: Nance Haxton    With thanks to Alice Perle 
  ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:
The Daniel Morcombe Foundation - 1300 326 435 or <a href="https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/">https://danielmorcombe.com.au/bright-futures/</a>
<ul>
<li>5Waves Inc in the USA is 100% focused on sibling sexual abuse (SSA), by five women who are survivors of SSA or parents of siblings affected by SSA. They offer education, support and resources for every person affected, including those who abused their sibling in childhood. You’ll find them at both <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http:/www.5waves.org___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6YjVjZDo0MjYyMjczNmQzYjEwZjIwOTU0ODQ1MGRiNWZhM2ZhZDk0ZGJmNDUyMWMwNzIyZTZjNjFmMzc2YjA1NTgyMjU0Omg6VDpO">www.5waves.org</a> and <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http:/www.siblingsexualtrauma.com___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6YjE3NDpkMDM4ODk0OTQyM2Y0NmRhODMzZTYzM2IwOWRkMWM1Y2FkNTg3MTY5MDRkMzcxNzdiZDYyNGE2ZDQ4YzlkZmJkOmg6VDpO">www.siblingsexualtrauma.com</a> </li>
<li>5Waves also has a Facebook group: Parents Coping with Sibling Sexual Trauma and Abuse:  <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/www.facebook.com/groups/siblingtrauma___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6YzJmNTplZjc2MWE2OTQwMDU0YmRmM2ZiYjc0NzI2NmIyNDE4ZWQwZTQ3ZjY3Y2IwMWJkZTI0ZDg1YjY5OGY1NDYzMzU3Omg6VDpO">https://www.facebook.com/groups/siblingtrauma</a></li>
<li><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http:/www.EmpowerSurvivors.net___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6NWVkODo5NWE2Y2M4MGNmMTA1MTE5ZThkZmZkM2RlOWExMWY4NmQ1MTlkNzkzNGIzNmUzZmEyNGE0NDcwMjUyZmEyNTUxOmg6VDpO">www.EmpowerSurvivors.net</a> in the USA has a podcast and two peer support groups on Facebook: Peer Support Group for Survivors of Sibling Childhood Sexual Abuse: <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/www.facebook.com/groups/646423866554980___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6MDgzOToyMTRkZWI3M2E2YjYyMjQxYjk3NDY1YmQ4Nzk0ZjJlYWM3NWQ4ZWUxOTVmZGE1Zjc1ZmYzNTg3OWY2YTM2ODRkOmg6VDpO">https://www.facebook.com/groups/646423866554980</a></li>
<li>Innocence Lost – Adult Survivors of Childhood Trauma &amp; Abuse: <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredtogether___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6M2Q2Zjo3ODk1MDg0NjQxN2VlYmQ3NTMxMDY0OWExYjkzYTNkMDRiNTg1YmI3MmQ4MmVlYzZhYzRhZjY1YTYzY2MyNDczOmg6VDpO">https://www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredtogether</a></li>
<li><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http:/www.IncestAware.org___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6MWVhMjo5NGRlN2UyY2U5MGNmZDFkZjNiNWMxZjM2MzlkNGFlZGMwYTAxMmU0ZmIyZmM3YmE3ODJhNGM3N2NlMmNkNzQzOmg6VDpO">www.IncestAware.org</a> in the USA is an alliance of survivors, advocates, activists and support volunteers working to raise awareness. It offers services, education, and survivor stories.</li>
<li>Nancy Morris, a SSA survivor, psychology researcher and founder of #siblingstoo in Canada, began the annual international #Siblingstoo Day two years ago. Go to her website: <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http:/www.siblingstoo.com___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6MTdmNjpmMmUwNTI4ZjgzYmEwZDQ5NTliZmRkNzBkMGE3NWM3ZDJiZmU1MDU3OTdiYTdlYTNjMmNkM2ZmMjhhYzk3NmRlOmg6VDpO">www.siblingstoo.com</a> where you can share your story anonymously, find events and a podcast. Nancy’s 2024 #SiblingsToo Day Resources Pack can be downloaded – with links to interviews with survivors, researchers and professionals working in the field of SSA.</li>
</ul>
Alice’s own calls to action are:
- Purchase a copy of Resolve, available in paperback, Kindle eBook, and audiobook formats on Amazon and all other online book and audiobook stores. You can also purchase signed copies of Resolve from the author if you live in Australia via <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http:/www.aliceperle.com.au___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6NjE5YzpkOThlMTQ0ODRlMzdiNjg4ZjZkMGFlNWZkNDJjNmE4M2VmNTc0MGFmZDU1N2YzMGRlMTY4NDZkNGU4YzhlYmJkOmg6VDpO">www.aliceperle.com.au</a>.
- Share Resolve with someone you know who may benefit from its insights and perspectives.
- Recommend Resolve to your local library, bricks-and-mortar bookstore, school or  other educational institutions, and community organisations to increase awareness and support for survivors of sibling sexual abuse.
- Invite Alice to speak on your podcast or radio show, at your school, workplace or event to educate others about the impact of sibling sexual abuse and how we can support and empower survivors.
- Host an Alice Perle Resolve discussion group or book club and invite Alice to facilitate or participate in the conversation.
- Leave a review: If Resolve resonated with you or provided valuable insights, consider leaving a review on Amazon, Audible, and Goodreads or sending it via email to Alice directly for her to share on social media or in her weekly blog, anonymously or otherwise: <a href="mailto:hello@aliceperle.com.au">hello@aliceperle.com.au</a>. Your feedback helps amplify the message and reach other survivors, allies, and advocates who may benefit from this resource.
- Follow Alice on Instagram <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/www.instagram.com/resolvebyaliceperle___.YXAxZTpkbWY6YTpvOmEwOWM5MzkzYTJlNDdkMjg5NDZiMDNkNjBhNjg1NWJmOjY6NmQwZDpjNWVjMTVkM2FhY2RiMjZlYjJlZWYzMjBjODE2MjkxYzNiZDRlZDJjODg5MzcyM2I1ODdhMDk4NDE2ZTk0MDQzOmg6VDpO">https://www.instagram.com/resolvebyaliceperle</a>

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