Johnny Gannon grew up in Maroubra in the Bra Boys era, when you did not talk about your problems and showing any weakness put you at the bottom of the pile. He has spent the last 25 years on the jiu-jitsu mats, took nearly 20 years to earn his black belt, and now runs eight-week health challenges with chapters right across Australia. At 54 he still trains most days, teaches his three kids, and is as curious as he has ever been. We were stoked to get him in.

In this episode, we discuss how training became his way of coping, why he reckons you have to look after number one before you can look after anyone else, and the mate who told him to respect himself. He explains his wheel of health, the eight-week challenge that has people quitting the drink for good, and learning to hold his breath for three and a half minutes on an empty lung by getting curious instead of scared. We also get into the Bra Boys years, the grit that came out of them, and what he wants for his own kids instead.

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