Alexi Pappas is an Olympian who holds the Greek national record over 10,000m, an author, poet, filmmaker, and a guide alongside her blind teammate Lisa together running many of the World Marathon Majors. She's spent her whole life refusing to be just one thing.

We talked about why she believes your fears are really just cares, and how she traced all of hers back to one core fear before solving it with a single phone call to three friends. Picturing fear as a passenger in the car you're driving instead of something to outrun. Guiding Lisa through five Boston Marathons, learning to talk through tension in the tether so the conversation could be about feelings instead of left and right, and the time they fell clipped into a tandem bike in traffic while training for their first triathlon. Why she thinks shortcuts are poison, and how you can stand next to someone on a start line and feel whether they earned it. Keeping athlete and artist in separate rooms for years, then seeing her own handwriting on a wall at Boston. And why, after solving that one fear, she feels more fearless than she ever has.

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