How long do you actually need to spend in nature to feel the effects on your mental health? And once you do, how long does it last?

In this episode, Dr Megan Lee breaks down the research behind green and blue spaces - what they are, why they work, and what's actually happening in your body when you step onto sand barefoot or dive under a wave. We talk about the COVID study that changed the field, why social connection is consistently the number one predictor of wellbeing across all of her research, and why nature ties together all five pillars of wellbeing without you even trying.

For more just like this, listen to Megan's first episode; "#121 Dr Megan Lee: How to be Happy".
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How long do you actually need to spend in nature to feel the effects on your mental health? And once you do, how long does it last?
In this episode, Dr Megan Lee breaks down the research behind green and blue spaces - what they are, why they work, and what's actually happening in your body when you step onto sand barefoot or dive under a wave. We talk about the COVID study that changed the field, why social connection is consistently the number one predictor of wellbeing across all of her research, and why nature ties together all five pillars of wellbeing without you even trying.
For more just like this, listen to Megan's first episode; "#121 Dr Megan Lee: How to be Happy". <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0LHMO0odO3xozfpQrjp3AN?si=-0uQbEfgSHe9LZF1vS83kA">Spotify</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/121-dr-megan-lee-how-to-be-happy/id1695873736?i=1000724228539">Apple Podcasts</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhtXXVS7gAg">YouTube</a>
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Ever wondered what drives the world’s top athletes beyond the scoreboard?

Former professional NRL player Keegan Hipgrave uncovers the untold truths about mental health, resilience, and redefining success - one candid conversation at a time.

Ever wondered what drives the world&rsquo;s top athletes beyond the scoreboard?
Former professional NRL player Keegan Hipgrave uncovers the untold truths about mental health, resilience, and redefining success - one candid conversation at a time.

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#169 The Psychology of Green & Blue Spaces w/ Dr Megan Lee | Why Nature Changes Your Brain

Grace Grove is a paediatrics doctor, a marathon runner preparing for London Marathon, and a content creator who's built a community by just being herself. We talked about burning out in 2025 trying to do it all, why she's doing less this year and doing it with more intention. Going from serial people-pleaser to showing up as her true self. What working in paediatrics has taught her about giving people grace. The LSKD 10-year vision exercise that made her cry. Sitting on the bathroom floor before Sydney Marathon with pre-race nerves so bad she was convinced she had food poisoning. And why becoming a mum is the one thing she'd give everything else up for. 

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Grace Grove is a paediatrics doctor, a marathon runner preparing for London Marathon, and a content creator who's built a community by just being herself. We talked about burning out in 2025 trying to do it all, why she's doing less this year and doing it with more intention. Going from serial people-pleaser to showing up as her true self. What working in paediatrics has taught her about giving people grace. The LSKD 10-year vision exercise that made her cry. Sitting on the bathroom floor before Sydney Marathon with pre-race nerves so bad she was convinced she had food poisoning. And why becoming a mum is the one thing she'd give everything else up for. 
If you enjoyed this episode check out these similar episodes: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0wUkdsaf0VYpKn0xPmdzzv?si=dZYb3uRPSR-0kflG6BPiWw">#106 Mary Fowler</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0xPzhzViAFZI5dQMEZ8j5r?si=XDzqZ3yiRueorm8jdb1zLQ">#91 Montana Farah-Seaton</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/51H363S25GLmIiyzNufT2p?si=C_sADl6rTO-Aco2ngRrVGg">#166 Katie Martin</a> Follow Grace: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/graceegrove">Instagram</a> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@graceegrove">TikTok</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@UC5cRtIaMzXS4lPsR7ik7Alg">YouTube</a>&nbsp;

#170 Grace Grove: Doctor, Runner & Content Creator | Being Yourself & Ditching Toxic Productivity

"Do I actually believe I can be a world champion?" That's the question Molly Picklum had to sit with before anything else. Last year at 22 she became the WSL Women's World Champion and in this conversation she opens up about the mental shift that got her there.

We talk about getting cut from tour and hating the sport she loved, the "Just Admit It" list she writes the night before every comp, the moment she stopped saying "I'm trying my best" and finally said "this is the year," and what flashed through her mind three minutes before she won it all.

We also discuss the balance between being soft as a person and hard as a professional, having good people in your corner, and why the pace of nature is slow but everything gets done.

If you enjoyed this episode check this one out next: 
#124 Mark Mathews: Recreate the Fear 
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"Do I actually believe I can be a world champion?" That's the question Molly Picklum had to sit with before anything else. Last year at 22 she became the WSL Women's World Champion and in this conversation she opens up about the mental shift that got her there.
We talk about getting cut from tour and hating the sport she loved, the "Just Admit It" list she writes the night before every comp, the moment she stopped saying "I'm trying my best" and finally said "this is the year," and what flashed through her mind three minutes before she won it all.
We also discuss the balance between being soft as a person and hard as a professional, having good people in your corner, and why the pace of nature is slow but everything gets done.
If you enjoyed this episode check this one out next:&nbsp; #124 Mark Mathews: Recreate the Fear <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1PKgG4wEwsCbZ6MLplRUZF?si=KtKzk1g4TvaMBLX9h_Z0vg">Spotify</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/124-mark-mathews-recreate-the-fear/id1695873736?i=1000727700138">Apple Podcasts</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTE6rK-HTuU">YouTube</a>
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#168 World Champion Surfer Molly Picklum: How I Stopped Letting Fear Make My Decisions

The average Australian spends 7 hours a day on a screen. But something is shifting. Gen Z is revolting against screens, hustle culture, and the pressure to be productive every waking moment. They're calling it the rise of whimsy.

Keegan sits down with Dr Megan Lee to unpack why young people are building "analog baskets," bricking their phones, and choosing imperfection over polished perfection. They get into why slowing down actually makes you better, how our lives have become performative, and why the things that make you feel the best are the ones nobody else sees.

For more just like this, listen to Megan's first episode; "#121 Dr Megan Lee: How to be Happy".
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/121-dr-megan-lee-how-to-be-happy/id1695873736?i=1000724228539
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The average Australian spends 7 hours a day on a screen. But something is shifting. Gen Z is revolting against screens, hustle culture, and the pressure to be productive every waking moment. They're calling it the rise of whimsy.
Keegan sits down with Dr Megan Lee to unpack why young people are building "analog baskets," bricking their phones, and choosing imperfection over polished perfection. They get into why slowing down actually makes you better, how our lives have become performative, and why the things that make you feel the best are the ones nobody else sees.
For more just like this, listen to Megan's first episode; "#121 Dr Megan Lee: How to be Happy". Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0LHMO0odO3xozfpQrjp3AN?si=-0uQbEfgSHe9LZF1vS83kA">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0LHMO0odO3xozfpQrjp3AN?si=-0uQbEfgSHe9LZF1vS83kA</a> Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/121-dr-megan-lee-how-to-be-happy/id1695873736?i=1000724228539">https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/121-dr-megan-lee-how-to-be-happy/id1695873736?i=1000724228539</a> YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhtXXVS7gAg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhtXXVS7gAg</a>
Listen and subscribe: Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4L7zyEBXeNYBDK4rRjBK0K">https://open.spotify.com/show/4L7zyEBXeNYBDK4rRjBK0K</a> Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/keegan-and-company/id1695873736">https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/keegan-and-company/id1695873736</a> YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Keeganandcompany">https://www.youtube.com/@Keeganandcompany</a>
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#169 The Psychology of Green & Blue Spaces w/ Dr Megan Lee | Why Nature Changes Your Brain

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