*This episode mentions abuse and may be triggering for some listeners.* 

This week, we hear from Chris Edmonds, who shares the story of his father, World War II hero Roddie Edmonds, who was honored with the Medal of Honor for saving hundreds of Jewish American soldiers in a Nazi POW camp.

Next, we’ll hear from Caleb Altmeyer, founder of Helping Captives, who will tell us about a childhood friend’s tragic story, which eventually led him and his family into the fight against sex trafficking.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Jochen Wurfl

Upcoming interview: Giavani Cairo

 

Chris Edmonds

Roddie Edmonds

Battle of the Bulge

Stalag IX-A

Isaiah 26:12

www.roddieedmonds.com

No Surrender

 

Caleb Altmeyer

Helping Captives

Union Gospel Mission

 

Interview Quotes:

“From the moment [Dad] surrendered to Christ as a teenager at Vestal United Methodist Church in South Knoxville, God’s Word became his marching orders. And I think that’s what gave him the moral clarity he needed in the worst conditions, because he really understood life from a biblical perspective, and it sealed his moral code to where he wanted to live by that clarity.” - Chris Edmonds 

“Dad saved his Jewish men because a Jewish man named Jesus had saved him, had redeemed his life, and redeemed him from his inhumanity to where he could actually be who God wanted him to be.” - Chris Edmonds

“When you stop and think about it, that’s all God expects for us—to do what’s right for Him, for the Lord first, and then for others. If we do what’s right for the Lord, then we’re going to do what’s right for others.” - Chris Edmonds

“Dad being saved in that camp and all of his boys getting out safe—that’s all the Lord’s doing. And then for it to be buried in the ashes of the Holocaust for seventy years before it ever comes to light, that’s all the Lord’s doing. And I think it’s for such a time as this, when we so desperately need to start treating people with the highest respect and honor that God calls us to.” - Chris Edmonds 

“When we esteem others better than ourselves, we take people to the place where God resides, for that unconditional love—regardless of who they are, regardless of what we think about them, regardless of how they think about us, we love them with the love of Christ. And that is a love that’s beyond this world, but it’s a love that we have to share through the power of Christ.” - Chris Edmonds 

“I shouldn’t be here. My family shouldn’t be here. A lot of those Jewish guys and the POWs in that camp should have been killed, but [Dad] talked the Nazi down and told him the truth and he told him in love. I hope someday in heaven when I’m there with Dad, that the old Nazi’s there and we get to celebrate that we’re all one in the Lord. - Chris Edmonds 

“I think, unfortunately, sometimes the movies just help us reiterate in our head, Oh, this is kids in shipping containers, and this happens overseas, when the reality is that a lot of human trafficking is happening in your own community.” - Caleb Altmeyer

“Traffickers exploit unmet needs. And I think one of the greatest needs that we all have is belonging.” - Caleb Altmeyer 

“If you have a relationship with your kids, and you’re actively parenting them, and you have a good relationship and know who they’re talking to, the chances of them being trafficked are much lower. I can’t say this enough: build relationships with vulnerable young people. Traffickers are really good at finding vulnerable people. The church should be better at finding them first.” - Caleb Altmeyer 

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Audio Interviews: https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Video Interviews: https://bit.ly/4f79RAW 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx 

Scripture Series: https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU 

Celebrity Readings: https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ 

Video Devotionals: https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb 

Sleep Meditations: https://bit.ly/4w0xu37
Shorts: https://bit.ly/3RHFubh 

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*This episode mentions abuse and may be triggering for some listeners.*&nbsp;
This week, we hear from <a href="https://www.roddieedmonds.com/">Chris Edmonds</a>, who shares the story of his father, World War II hero Roddie Edmonds, who was honored with the Medal of Honor for saving hundreds of Jewish American soldiers in a Nazi POW camp.
Next, we&rsquo;ll hear from <a href="https://calebaltmeyer.com/">Caleb Altmeyer</a>, founder of <a href="https://helpingcaptives.org/">Helping Captives</a>, who will tell us about a childhood friend&rsquo;s tragic story, which eventually led him and his family into the fight against sex trafficking.
&nbsp;
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/surviving-the-shadows-jochen-wurfls-escape-from-the-holocaust-and-holly-maries-unexpected-family-mystery/">Jochen Wurfl</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4544348/">Giavani Cairo</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.roddieedmonds.com/">Chris Edmonds</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roddie_Edmonds">Roddie Edmonds</a>
<a href="https://www.army.mil/botb/">Battle of the Bulge</a>
<a href="https://uswarmemorials.org/html/monument_details.php?SiteID=3501&amp;MemID=4883">Stalag IX-A</a>
<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isaiah%2026%3A12&amp;version=NIV">Isaiah 26:12</a>
<a href="http://www.roddieedmonds.com">www.roddieedmonds.com</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062905015">No Surrender</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://calebaltmeyer.com/">Caleb Altmeyer</a>
<a href="https://helpingcaptives.org/">Helping Captives</a>
<a href="https://www.uniongospelmission.org/">Union Gospel Mission</a>
&nbsp;
Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;From the moment [Dad] surrendered to Christ as a teenager at Vestal United Methodist Church in South Knoxville, God&rsquo;s Word became his marching orders. And I think that&rsquo;s what gave him the moral clarity he needed in the worst conditions, because he really understood life from a biblical perspective, and it sealed his moral code to where he wanted to live by that clarity.&rdquo; - Chris Edmonds&nbsp;
&ldquo;Dad saved his Jewish men because a Jewish man named Jesus had saved him, had redeemed his life, and redeemed him from his inhumanity to where he could actually be who God wanted him to be.&rdquo; - Chris Edmonds
&ldquo;When you stop and think about it, that&rsquo;s all God expects for us&mdash;to do what&rsquo;s right for Him, for the Lord first, and then for others. If we do what&rsquo;s right for the Lord, then we&rsquo;re going to do what&rsquo;s right for others.&rdquo; - Chris Edmonds
&ldquo;Dad being saved in that camp and all of his boys getting out safe&mdash;that&rsquo;s all the Lord&rsquo;s doing. And then for it to be buried in the ashes of the Holocaust for seventy years before it ever comes to light, that&rsquo;s all the Lord&rsquo;s doing. And I think it&rsquo;s for such a time as this, when we so desperately need to start treating people with the highest respect and honor that God calls us to.&rdquo; - Chris Edmonds&nbsp;
&ldquo;When we esteem others better than ourselves, we take people to the place where God resides, for that unconditional love&mdash;regardless of who they are, regardless of what we think about them, regardless of how they think about us, we love them with the love of Christ. And that is a love that&rsquo;s beyond this world, but it&rsquo;s a love that we have to share through the power of Christ.&rdquo; - Chris Edmonds&nbsp;
&ldquo;I shouldn&rsquo;t be here. My family shouldn&rsquo;t be here. A lot of those Jewish guys and the POWs in that camp should have been killed, but [Dad] talked the Nazi down and told him the truth and he told him in love. I hope someday in heaven when I&rsquo;m there with Dad, that the old Nazi&rsquo;s there and we get to celebrate that we&rsquo;re all one in the Lord. - Chris Edmonds&nbsp;
&ldquo;I think, unfortunately, sometimes the movies just help us reiterate in our head, Oh, this is kids in shipping containers, and this happens overseas, when the reality is that a lot of human trafficking is happening in your own community.&rdquo; - Caleb Altmeyer
&ldquo;Traffickers exploit unmet needs. And I think one of the greatest needs that we all have is belonging.&rdquo; - Caleb Altmeyer&nbsp;
&ldquo;If you have a relationship with your kids, and you&rsquo;re actively parenting them, and you have a good relationship and know who they&rsquo;re talking to, the chances of them being trafficked are much lower. I can&rsquo;t say this enough: build relationships with vulnerable young people. Traffickers are really good at finding vulnerable people. The church should be better at finding them first.&rdquo; - Caleb Altmeyer&nbsp;
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Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Video Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/4f79RAW">https://bit.ly/4f79RAW</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: <a href="https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx">https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx</a>&nbsp;
Scripture Series: <a href="https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU">https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU</a>&nbsp;
Celebrity Readings: <a href="https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ">https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ</a>&nbsp;
Video Devotionals: <a href="https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb">https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb</a>&nbsp;
Sleep Meditations: <a href="https://bit.ly/4w0xu37">https://bit.ly/4w0xu37</a> Shorts: <a href="https://bit.ly/3RHFubh">https://bit.ly/3RHFubh</a>&nbsp;
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Courage in the Face of Darkness: Chris Edmonds & Caleb Altmeyer

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This week, we hear from hockey playing brothers Jaccob and Josiah Slavin—Jaccob a veteran defenseman for the Carolina Hurricanes and Josiah now playing for the Chicago Wolves in the same organization. They share about the night they finally played in an NHL game together after dreaming about it since childhood, and how they keep their personal convictions strong in a challenging environment.

Next, we’ll hear from Sara McDaniel, whose marriage fell apart around age thirty-two, leaving her angry at God. She shares how a cottage in Minden, Louisiana—and the social media account she started to document its transformation—became a place to talk about her story, and how she held on to hope through her father’s death and the health scare and job loss that followed.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Jenny Marrs

Upcoming interview: Chris Edmonds

Jesus Calling: Harvest of Blessings

 

Jaccob and Josiah Slavin

Jaccob’s NHL Profile

Josiah’s NHL Profile 

Carolina Hurricanes

Chicago Wolves

 

Sara McDaniel

Simply Southern Cottage

Better Homes and Gardens

Southern Living Magazine 

Cottages and Bungalows 

Hometown Kickstart with HGTV

In With the Old on Magnolia Network

Romans 8:28

Ephesians 3:20

The Bright Side of the Other Side

 

Interview Quotes:

“Our dad, every morning before school, would be at the table in the same spot every single day, just reading his Bible in front of us. As a little boy or a teenage boy growing up, you just wanted to be like your dad, and you wanted to pull out your Bible and read next to him. I think that was the biggest way that faith stuck in my life.” - Josiah Slavin 

“It was an awesome moment that God just kindly gave us [to play hockey together], and we were just able to enjoy it and be able to be out on the ice for a couple shifts together and kill a couple penalties together. I mean, [it was] just what we both dreamed about growing up.” - Jaccob Slavin 

“I was realizing that there was a very strong parallel between the renovation of this house and the restoration of my life post-divorce. I began opening up about my story, and when I would talk about slowly putting the house back together, I would draw this parallel about how the Lord was healing my heart and slowly putting me back together also.” - Sara McDaniel 

“I could not believe that this little girl from Louisiana who’s doing these renovations caught the attention of magazines that noted, national interior designers are a part of, but then just realizing that the Lord was increasing my platform so that I could continue to tell the story of restoration, grace, hope, mercy, and redemption—and how He can take beauty from ashes.” - Sara McDaniel 

“It was very hard to cling to hope through all of these trials.I was very upset with God for letting my marriage fall apart, thinking my life was never going to be happy again. But the further I got away from that situation and the more that I leaned into Him and His plan for my life and the promise of Romans 8:28—that He is going to work all things for good—I started to realize that there is a bright side on the other side of this pain.” - Sara McDaniel

________________________

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Audio Interviews: https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Video Interviews: https://bit.ly/4f79RAW 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx 

Scripture Series: https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU 

Celebrity Readings: https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ 

Video Devotionals: https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb 

Sleep Meditations: https://bit.ly/4w0xu37
Shorts: https://bit.ly/3RHFubh 

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This week, we hear from hockey playing brothers <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jslavin74/">Jaccob</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jslavin7/">Josiah Slavin</a>&mdash;Jaccob a veteran defenseman for the Carolina Hurricanes and Josiah now playing for the Chicago Wolves in the same organization. They share about the night they finally played in an NHL game together after dreaming about it since childhood, and how they keep their personal convictions strong in a challenging environment.
Next, we&rsquo;ll hear from <a href="https://simplysoutherncottage.com/">Sara McDaniel</a>, whose marriage fell apart around age thirty-two, leaving her angry at God. She shares how a cottage in Minden, Louisiana&mdash;and the social media account she started to document its transformation&mdash;became a place to talk about her story, and how she held on to hope through her father&rsquo;s death and the health scare and job loss that followed.
&nbsp;
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/jenny-marrs-and-struggle-jennings-when-life-breaks-you-god-rebuilds-you/">Jenny Marrs</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://www.roddieedmonds.com/">Chris Edmonds</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-calling-harvest-of-blessings/">Jesus Calling: Harvest of Blessings</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/jslavin74/">Jaccob</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jslavin7/">Josiah Slavin</a>
<a href="https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/player/jaccob-slavin-8476958/stats">Jaccob&rsquo;s NHL Profile</a>
<a href="https://www.nhl.com/player/josiah-slavin-8481004/stats">Josiah&rsquo;s NHL Profile&nbsp;</a>
<a href="https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/">Carolina Hurricanes</a>
<a href="https://www.chicagowolves.com/">Chicago Wolves</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://simplysoutherncottage.com/">Sara McDaniel</a>
<a href="https://simplysoutherncottage.com/">Simply Southern Cottage</a>
<a href="https://www.bhg.com/">Better Homes and Gardens</a>
<a href="https://www.southernliving.com/">Southern Living Magazine</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cottagesandbungalowsmag.com/">Cottages and Bungalows</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.hgtv.com/shows/home-town-kickstart-presented-by-people">Hometown Kickstart with HGTV</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@magnolianetwork">In With the Old on Magnolia Network</a>
<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%208%3A28&amp;version=NIV">Romans 8:28</a>
<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%203%3A20&amp;version=NIV">Ephesians 3:20</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GRG7SV73">The Bright Side of the Other Side</a>
&nbsp;
Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;Our dad, every morning before school, would be at the table in the same spot every single day, just reading his Bible in front of us. As a little boy or a teenage boy growing up, you just wanted to be like your dad, and you wanted to pull out your Bible and read next to him. I think that was the biggest way that faith stuck in my life.&rdquo; - Josiah Slavin&nbsp;
&ldquo;It was an awesome moment that God just kindly gave us [to play hockey together], and we were just able to enjoy it and be able to be out on the ice for a couple shifts together and kill a couple penalties together. I mean, [it was] just what we both dreamed about growing up.&rdquo; - Jaccob Slavin&nbsp;
&ldquo;I was realizing that there was a very strong parallel between the renovation of this house and the restoration of my life post-divorce. I began opening up about my story, and when I would talk about slowly putting the house back together, I would draw this parallel about how the Lord was healing my heart and slowly putting me back together also.&rdquo; - Sara McDaniel&nbsp;
&ldquo;I could not believe that this little girl from Louisiana who&rsquo;s doing these renovations caught the attention of magazines that noted, national interior designers are a part of, but then just realizing that the Lord was increasing my platform so that I could continue to tell the story of restoration, grace, hope, mercy, and redemption&mdash;and how He can take beauty from ashes.&rdquo; - Sara McDaniel&nbsp;
&ldquo;It was very hard to cling to hope through all of these trials. I was very upset with God for letting my marriage fall apart, thinking my life was never going to be happy again. But the further I got away from that situation and the more that I leaned into Him and His plan for my life and the promise of Romans 8:28&mdash;that He is going to work all things for good&mdash;I started to realize that there is a bright side on the other side of this pain.&rdquo; - Sara McDaniel
________________________
Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Video Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/4f79RAW">https://bit.ly/4f79RAW</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: <a href="https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx">https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx</a>&nbsp;
Scripture Series: <a href="https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU">https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU</a>&nbsp;
Celebrity Readings: <a href="https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ">https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ</a>&nbsp;
Video Devotionals: <a href="https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb">https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb</a>&nbsp;
Sleep Meditations: <a href="https://bit.ly/4w0xu37">https://bit.ly/4w0xu37</a> Shorts: <a href="https://bit.ly/3RHFubh">https://bit.ly/3RHFubh</a>&nbsp;
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The Bright Side of Life’s Many Detours: Jaccob and Josiah Slavin & Sara McDaniel

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In this episode of Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer, Susie McEntire sits down with author, actor, and filmmaker Nathan Clarkson for an honest conversation about letting go of perfectionism and embracing a faith rooted in grace. Nathan also talks about his new book, I’m the Worst, and the redemption journey that inspired it.

 

Guest’s Links
Facebook: @nathanclarksoncreations

Instagram: @nathanjclarkson 



Watch this interview on our YouTube channel! https://bit.ly/4cmdgKD 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

In this episode of Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer, Susie McEntire sits down with author, actor, and filmmaker Nathan Clarkson for an honest conversation about letting go of perfectionism and embracing a faith rooted in grace. Nathan also talks about his new book, I&rsquo;m the Worst, and the redemption journey that inspired it.
&nbsp;
Guest&rsquo;s Links Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nathanclarksoncreations/">@nathanclarksoncreations</a>
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nathanjclarkson/?hl=en">@nathanjclarkson </a>
Watch this interview on our YouTube channel! <a href="https://bit.ly/4cmdgKD">https://bit.ly/4cmdgKD</a>&nbsp;
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[JESUS LISTENS MONTHLY SERIES] Where Does Grace Begin When I’m At My Worst? ft. Nathan Clarkson

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This week, we hear from bestselling author Francine Rivers, who has been married to her husband, Rick, for fifty-six years. She shares how a home Bible study helped carry them from the edge of divorce, what caring for Rick—a Vietnam Marine with Parkinson’s—looks like now, and why she sees death as a beginning.

Next, Bible teacher and speaker Whitney Capps offers profound insight into the process of dying and holding fast to faith in the midst of questions, pain, and suffering. Her story touches on confronting her mortality daily, finding comfort in a supportive community, and experiencing deep peace through uncertainty. 

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Esther Fleece Allen

Upcoming interview: Jaccob and Josiah Slavin

Jesus Calling: Harvest of Blessings

 

Francine Rivers

PTSD from the Vietnam War

Parkinson’s Disease

www.francinerivers.com

The Woman Between

 

Whitney Capps

small bowel adenocarcinoma

2 Corinthians

Romans 8

The Melody of Grace Bible Study

 

Interview Quotes:

“I think you start out with this passionate love for each other, it doesn’t die away, but your love grows and changes and matures.” - Francine Rivers 

“You’re growing all the time. Things are changing, your life is changing, and you have a lot of different phases. And it’s worth the work.The love deepens, I think, as time goes by.” - Francine Rivers 

“I’m in the Word every morning, and I think that’s really important to set the course for the day. I notice that when I don’t do that, for whatever reason, something happens and my day doesn’t go nearly as well.It’s a way to make sure God is in control of your day.” - Francine Rivers 

“The way I look at death, you don’t really know what it’s going to be like, but you know what’s on the other side is joy that God’s promised us. So we kind of focus on that more than anything—what’s beyond, not necessarily the difficulties right now.” - Francine Rivers 

“We have an embarrassment of riches in terms of community. The Lord’s kindness is not lost on me.” - Whitney Capps

“I’m really grateful that [God] was kind enough to superintend and go, ‘No, you don’t have to wait for a story to make a difference in ministry. Just being in the Word is enough.’” - Whitney Capps

“I think we should show up with our pain because whatever story we’ve been asked to steward can be heavy, it can be hard, and it shouldn’t be compared to somebody else’s hard. Whatever we’ve been asked to steward, those are stories that are worth talking about in the church.” - Whitney Capps 

“I’ve followed the doctor’s protocols and we really have followed every avenue that the Lord gave us as an option. But the thing that I’ve discovered, more than any of those gifts of grace, is that He is the chief gift of grace. His presence is the thing that I want more than anything else, and His presence is the only thing that gives me any sense of control.” - Whitney Capps 

“The reality is, when I see Jesus face-to-face, it’ll be the most alive I’ve ever been. Cancer cannot steal one day from me. We rest in the sovereign plan of God. He knows my final day before I was born, and cancer doesn’t have the authority to change God’s plan.” - Whitney Capps

“I know that [God] can heal me, and yet He chooses not to. I don’t think we talk about that enough—the spiritual kind of barrenness of going, I have not doubted for one day that God could miraculously heal me. And we pray for miraculous healing, but there is a wrestling that happens when His answer is no.” - Whitney Capps 

“I have had to shift what the goodness of God looks like to me. I can’t think about it as ease or comfort. The goodness of God is being with me in the days of suffering. He is with me in the messy middle.” - Whitney Capps

“This has been a hard story, and there’ve been lots of tears shed as I think about the possibility of not being here for my boys, not being there for my husband. Those are some of the things I wrestle with. Ultimately, our family has chosen to just say, ‘Why not us? We have been incredibly blessed. So why not us? Why not a hard story, and what can we do with this story that makes much of Jesus?’” - Whitney Capps

“I think it’s so kind of our God to allow us lament, that He doesn’t expect us to hide our pain from Him. I find great comfort in that, that He’s not offended by our sorrow or our pain—that He entered into it, in the person of Jesus Christ, but even before the incarnate Christ, He allowed His people the space for our souls to cry out.” - Whitney Capps

________________________

Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!

Audio Interviews: https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Video Interviews: https://bit.ly/4f79RAW 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx 

Scripture Series: https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU 

Celebrity Readings: https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ 

Video Devotionals: https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb 

Sleep Meditations: https://bit.ly/4w0xu37
Shorts: https://bit.ly/3RHFubh 

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This week, we hear from <a href="https://francinerivers.com/">bestselling author Francine Rivers</a>, who has been married to her husband, Rick, for fifty-six years. She shares how a home Bible study helped carry them from the edge of divorce, what caring for Rick&mdash;a Vietnam Marine with Parkinson&rsquo;s&mdash;looks like now, and why she sees death as a beginning.
Next, Bible teacher and speaker <a href="https://www.whitneycapps.com/">Whitney Capps</a> offers profound insight into the process of dying and holding fast to faith in the midst of questions, pain, and suffering. Her story touches on confronting her mortality daily, finding comfort in a supportive community, and experiencing deep peace through uncertainty.&nbsp;
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Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/who-are-we-really-beth-mccord-esther-fleece-allen-show-us-god-knows/">Esther Fleece Allen</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/news/family-ties-slavin-continues-to-follow-footsteps-at-development-camp-335149274">Jaccob and Josiah Slavin</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-calling-harvest-of-blessings/">Jesus Calling: Harvest of Blessings</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://francinerivers.com/">Francine Rivers</a>
<a href="https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/publications/agent-orange/agent-orange-summer-2015/nvvls.asp">PTSD from the Vietnam War</a>
<a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/parkinsons-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20376055">Parkinson&rsquo;s Disease</a>
<a href="http://www.francinerivers.com">www.francinerivers.com</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Woman-Between-Novel-Francine-Rivers/dp/B0H575VDP9/">The Woman Between</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.whitneycapps.com/">Whitney Capps</a>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8918997/">small bowel adenocarcinoma</a>
<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%201&amp;version=NIV">2 Corinthians</a>
<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%208&amp;version=NIV">Romans 8</a>
<a href="https://www.lifeway.com/en/product-family/the-melody-of-grace-bible-study">The Melody of Grace Bible Study</a>
&nbsp;
Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;I think you start out with this passionate love for each other, it doesn&rsquo;t die away, but your love grows and changes and matures.&rdquo; - Francine Rivers&nbsp;
&ldquo;You&rsquo;re growing all the time. Things are changing, your life is changing, and you have a lot of different phases. And it&rsquo;s worth the work. The love deepens, I think, as time goes by.&rdquo; - Francine Rivers&nbsp;
&ldquo;I&rsquo;m in the Word every morning, and I think that&rsquo;s really important to set the course for the day. I notice that when I don&rsquo;t do that, for whatever reason, something happens and my day doesn&rsquo;t go nearly as well. It&rsquo;s a way to make sure God is in control of your day.&rdquo; - Francine Rivers&nbsp;
&ldquo;The way I look at death, you don&rsquo;t really know what it&rsquo;s going to be like, but you know what&rsquo;s on the other side is joy that God&rsquo;s promised us. So we kind of focus on that more than anything&mdash;what&rsquo;s beyond, not necessarily the difficulties right now.&rdquo; - Francine Rivers&nbsp;
&ldquo;We have an embarrassment of riches in terms of community. The Lord&rsquo;s kindness is not lost on me.&rdquo; - Whitney Capps
&ldquo;I&rsquo;m really grateful that [God] was kind enough to superintend and go, &lsquo;No, you don&rsquo;t have to wait for a story to make a difference in ministry. Just being in the Word is enough.&rsquo;&rdquo; - Whitney Capps
&ldquo;I think we should show up with our pain because whatever story we&rsquo;ve been asked to steward can be heavy, it can be hard, and it shouldn&rsquo;t be compared to somebody else&rsquo;s hard. Whatever we&rsquo;ve been asked to steward, those are stories that are worth talking about in the church.&rdquo; - Whitney Capps&nbsp;
&ldquo;I&rsquo;ve followed the doctor&rsquo;s protocols and we really have followed every avenue that the Lord gave us as an option. But the thing that I&rsquo;ve discovered, more than any of those gifts of grace, is that He is the chief gift of grace. His presence is the thing that I want more than anything else, and His presence is the only thing that gives me any sense of control.&rdquo; - Whitney Capps&nbsp;
&ldquo;The reality is, when I see Jesus face-to-face, it&rsquo;ll be the most alive I&rsquo;ve ever been. Cancer cannot steal one day from me. We rest in the sovereign plan of God. He knows my final day before I was born, and cancer doesn&rsquo;t have the authority to change God&rsquo;s plan.&rdquo; - Whitney Capps
&ldquo;I know that [God] can heal me, and yet He chooses not to. I don&rsquo;t think we talk about that enough&mdash;the spiritual kind of barrenness of going, I have not doubted for one day that God could miraculously heal me. And we pray for miraculous healing, but there is a wrestling that happens when His answer is no.&rdquo; - Whitney Capps&nbsp;
&ldquo;I have had to shift what the goodness of God looks like to me. I can&rsquo;t think about it as ease or comfort. The goodness of God is being with me in the days of suffering. He is with me in the messy middle.&rdquo; - Whitney Capps
&ldquo;This has been a hard story, and there&rsquo;ve been lots of tears shed as I think about the possibility of not being here for my boys, not being there for my husband. Those are some of the things I wrestle with. Ultimately, our family has chosen to just say, &lsquo;Why not us? We have been incredibly blessed. So why not us? Why not a hard story, and what can we do with this story that makes much of Jesus?&rsquo;&rdquo; - Whitney Capps
&ldquo;I think it&rsquo;s so kind of our God to allow us lament, that He doesn&rsquo;t expect us to hide our pain from Him. I find great comfort in that, that He&rsquo;s not offended by our sorrow or our pain&mdash;that He entered into it, in the person of Jesus Christ, but even before the incarnate Christ, He allowed His people the space for our souls to cry out.&rdquo; - Whitney Capps
________________________
Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Video Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/4f79RAW">https://bit.ly/4f79RAW</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: <a href="https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx">https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx</a>&nbsp;
Scripture Series: <a href="https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU">https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU</a>&nbsp;
Celebrity Readings: <a href="https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ">https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ</a>&nbsp;
Video Devotionals: <a href="https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb">https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb</a>&nbsp;
Sleep Meditations: <a href="https://bit.ly/4w0xu37">https://bit.ly/4w0xu37</a> Shorts: <a href="https://bit.ly/3RHFubh">https://bit.ly/3RHFubh</a>&nbsp;
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Walking With God in All of Our Days to Life’s Final Moments: Francine Rivers & Whitney Capps

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Welcome to a special scripture-focused bonus episode of the Jesus Calling Podcast, where we hear from Italian journalist and author Aldo Cazzullo. Aldo walks us through the Song of Solomon, a book of deeply passionate and romantic poetry which celebrates love the way God designed it: to reflect His creative power. 

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

 

Aldo Cazzullo

Song of Solomon

The God of Our Fathers





Interview Quotes:

“The Song of Solomon is a mystery, a text speaking about spiritual love but also physical love. When you open the Song of Solomon, you encounter a collection of deeply passionate, romantic poetry, unlike anything else in the Bible.” - Aldo Cazzullo

“The Song of Solomon stands out because it doesn’t impose rules. Its verses are among the most beautiful ever written, anchored by the assertion that love is as strong as death.” - Aldo Cazzullo

“This book stands as a triumphant ode because it does not shy away from the physical and emotional realities of human love, presenting it as a reflection of the divine image in which we are created.” - Aldo Cazzullo

“The boundary between physical and spiritual love is not as rigid as we imagine. By embracing both, the Song of Solomon shows us that at their best, our human connections can provide a glimpse of how devoted and loving our relationship with God might be.” - Aldo Cazzullo

“God values not only our spiritual life, but also our emotional and physical experience. The Song of Solomon teaches that the human body, desire, and intimacy are not separated from the divine, but in fact reflect God’s creative power.” - Aldo Cazzullo 

“Daily connection with God and with Jesus is not about grand gestures, but about the small acts that remind us of our place in a story much larger than ourselves.” - Aldo Cazzullo 

“The Song of Solomon reminds us that our capacity for love and deep affection is itself sacred, blessed by God. Our relationships can and should be places where the divine is present.” - Aldo Cazzullo 

“In a world that sometimes feels disconnected, transactional, or superficial, I believe the Song of Solomon urges us to invest more fully in the bonds that matter, and to seek the presence of beauty in our everyday lives. The Song of Solomon teaches us to live boldly, sincerely, joyfully, and in doing so, to discover something eternal in each other.” - Aldo Cazzullo

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

Welcome to a special scripture-focused bonus episode of the Jesus Calling Podcast, where we hear from Italian journalist and author Aldo Cazzullo. Aldo walks us through the Song of Solomon, a book of deeply passionate and romantic poetry which celebrates love the way God designed it: to reflect His creative power.&nbsp;
&nbsp;
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/cazzulloaldo/?hl=en">Aldo Cazzullo</a>
<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song%20of%20Songs%201&amp;version=NIV">Song of Solomon</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Our-Fathers-Great-Stories/dp/0063489082/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XZT125MMZSYZ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AmRwOnzHVGXK23iX93tI_lcBKSHzQ1XUfCGlmhjmyzk.TGDlKW5gsn0wxiLfjQsLX_hsrpiJos3T12JmXnLIzo0&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+god+of+our+fathers+aldo+cazzullo&amp;qid=1775056835&amp;sprefix=the+god+of+our+fathers+aldo+cazzullo%2Caps%2C138&amp;sr=8-1">The God of Our Fathers</a>
 
Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;The Song of Solomon is a mystery, a text speaking about spiritual love but also physical love. When you open the Song of Solomon, you encounter a collection of deeply passionate, romantic poetry, unlike anything else in the Bible.&rdquo; - Aldo Cazzullo
&ldquo;The Song of Solomon stands out because it doesn&rsquo;t impose rules. Its verses are among the most beautiful ever written, anchored by the assertion that love is as strong as death.&rdquo; - Aldo Cazzullo
&ldquo;This book stands as a triumphant ode because it does not shy away from the physical and emotional realities of human love, presenting it as a reflection of the divine image in which we are created.&rdquo; - Aldo Cazzullo
&ldquo;The boundary between physical and spiritual love is not as rigid as we imagine. By embracing both, the Song of Solomon shows us that at their best, our human connections can provide a glimpse of how devoted and loving our relationship with God might be.&rdquo; - Aldo Cazzullo
&ldquo;God values not only our spiritual life, but also our emotional and physical experience. The Song of Solomon teaches that the human body, desire, and intimacy are not separated from the divine, but in fact reflect God&rsquo;s creative power.&rdquo; - Aldo Cazzullo&nbsp;
&ldquo;Daily connection with God and with Jesus is not about grand gestures, but about the small acts that remind us of our place in a story much larger than ourselves.&rdquo; - Aldo Cazzullo&nbsp;
&ldquo;The Song of Solomon reminds us that our capacity for love and deep affection is itself sacred, blessed by God. Our relationships can and should be places where the divine is present.&rdquo; - Aldo Cazzullo&nbsp;
&ldquo;In a world that sometimes feels disconnected, transactional, or superficial, I believe the Song of Solomon urges us to invest more fully in the bonds that matter, and to seek the presence of beauty in our everyday lives. The Song of Solomon teaches us to live boldly, sincerely, joyfully, and in doing so, to discover something eternal in each other.&rdquo; - Aldo Cazzullo
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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

Jesus Calling Scripture Study: The Song of Solomon with Aldo Cazzullo

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/1823c001-3f43-474a-b664-b4c000f52ed7/transcript

This week, we’ll hear from writer and producer Brian Bird, whose decades-long career in film and television includes When Calls the Heart and Touched by an Angel. Brian shares how he discovered his gift for writing through others who championed for him and how he uses his ability for storytelling to bring positive change to the world.

Next, we’ll hear from Alister McGrath, a former atheist who became an Oxford trained scientist and theologian, who tries to bridge the divide between faith and science and desires to show the world that belief in God is more than just a set of ideas; it’s about a relationship.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Josh McDowell

Upcoming interview: Josiah and Jaccob Slavin

Jesus Calling: Harvest of Blessings

 

Brian Bird

When Calls the Heart 

Touched by an Angel

The Story of Everything

www.thestoryofeverything.film

 

Alister McGrath

Atheism

Christianity

C.S. Lewis

Matthew 7 

Rethinking Christianity

 

Interview Quotes:

“When I mentor young people, one of the things that I tell them is that they have to identify the one thing that God made them to do. Find three people like me to identify what you’re good at. Get into the symphony, don’t just be in a garage band.” - Brian Bird

“I found that just by being a friend maker as a Christian—and not trying to preach at people, but just loving people—they want to know why I am the way I am. They want to know why I have peace in my life, why I am content. You have to earn the right to share your faith with people. It’s not handing them a tract, it’s handing them a life, it’s handing them a relationship.” - Brian Bird

“I think in the world today, there’s so much cynical content out there that people are starved to death for content that is not cynical; content that is even idealistic, that inspires them to reach for their higher selves, that helps them feel like they’re part of something bigger than themselves.” - Brian Bird

“I found myself at a turning point in my life where I loved science and still believed my future might lie in science, but at the same time, I was having this real longing to immerse myself deeply in Christian thinking, deeply in the Bible, in really understanding what this was all about.” - Alister McGrath 

“I loved studying Christianity and I wanted to make connections with science, but I also began to realize there was a need to be able to connect up with people beyond the church, to be able to deal with the questions that they had about faith, as indeed I had as an atheist.” - Alister McGrath 

“What I’m finding in my many conversations with people is this growing realization that Christianity has this ability to really set out a worldview that is not going to disappear tomorrow. And it also seems to have this deep ability to make sense of life and give us a sense of personal identity and personal stability.” - Alister McGrath 

“Apologetics, I think, is moving in a new direction. We need to be able to reassure people Christianity is true, but we also need to show them it really transforms life. It’s a trustworthy truth that transforms us.” - Alister McGrath

“I think one of the things I didn’t really fully appreciate was that Christianity was giving me more than just a kind of intellectual framework. It was strongly relational. This is about a friendship, a relationship with a living God who journeys with you as your Shepherd through life wherever you are going.” - Alister McGrath

________________________

Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!

Audio Interviews: https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Video Interviews: https://bit.ly/4f79RAW 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx 

Scripture Series: https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU 

Celebrity Readings: https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ 

Video Devotionals: https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb 

Sleep Meditations: https://bit.ly/4w0xu37
Shorts: https://bit.ly/3RHFubh 

________________________ 

Connect with Jesus Calling

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Twitter

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This week, we&rsquo;ll hear from <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0083349/">writer and producer Brian Bird</a>, whose decades-long career in film and television includes <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2874692/">When Calls the Heart</a> and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108968/">Touched by an Angel</a>. Brian shares how he discovered his gift for writing through others who championed for him and how he uses his ability for storytelling to bring positive change to the world.
Next, we&rsquo;ll hear from <a href="https://www.theology.ox.ac.uk/people/professor-alister-mcgrath">Alister McGrath</a>, a former atheist who became an Oxford trained scientist and theologian, who tries to bridge the divide between faith and science and desires to show the world that belief in God is more than just a set of ideas; it&rsquo;s about a relationship.
&nbsp;
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.cru.org/us/en/how-to-know-god/my-story-a-life-changed/my-story-josh-mcdowell.html">Josh McDowell</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jslavin7/">Josiah</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jslavin74/">Jaccob Slavin</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-calling-harvest-of-blessings/">Jesus Calling: Harvest of Blessings</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0083349/">Brian Bird</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2874692/">When Calls the Heart</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108968/">Touched by an Angel</a>
<a href="https://www.thestoryofeverything.film/">The Story of Everything</a>
<a href="http://www.thestoryofeverything.film">www.thestoryofeverything.film</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.theology.ox.ac.uk/people/professor-alister-mcgrath">Alister McGrath</a>
<a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/atheism">Atheism</a>
<a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Christianity">Christianity</a>
<a href="https://www.cslewisinstitute.org/c-s-lewis-life-works/">C.S. Lewis</a>
<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207%20&amp;version=NIV">Matthew 7</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GRGJGH5X">Rethinking Christianity</a>
&nbsp;
Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;When I mentor young people, one of the things that I tell them is that they have to identify the one thing that God made them to do. Find three people like me to identify what you&rsquo;re good at. Get into the symphony, don&rsquo;t just be in a garage band.&rdquo; - Brian Bird
&ldquo;I found that just by being a friend maker as a Christian&mdash;and not trying to preach at people, but just loving people&mdash;they want to know why I am the way I am. They want to know why I have peace in my life, why I am content. You have to earn the right to share your faith with people. It&rsquo;s not handing them a tract, it&rsquo;s handing them a life, it&rsquo;s handing them a relationship.&rdquo; - Brian Bird
&ldquo;I think in the world today, there&rsquo;s so much cynical content out there that people are starved to death for content that is not cynical; content that is even idealistic, that inspires them to reach for their higher selves, that helps them feel like they&rsquo;re part of something bigger than themselves.&rdquo; - Brian Bird
&ldquo;I found myself at a turning point in my life where I loved science and still believed my future might lie in science, but at the same time, I was having this real longing to immerse myself deeply in Christian thinking, deeply in the Bible, in really understanding what this was all about.&rdquo; - Alister McGrath&nbsp;
&ldquo;I loved studying Christianity and I wanted to make connections with science, but I also began to realize there was a need to be able to connect up with people beyond the church, to be able to deal with the questions that they had about faith, as indeed I had as an atheist.&rdquo; - Alister McGrath&nbsp;
&ldquo;What I&rsquo;m finding in my many conversations with people is this growing realization that Christianity has this ability to really set out a worldview that is not going to disappear tomorrow. And it also seems to have this deep ability to make sense of life and give us a sense of personal identity and personal stability.&rdquo; - Alister McGrath&nbsp;
&ldquo;Apologetics, I think, is moving in a new direction. We need to be able to reassure people Christianity is true, but we also need to show them it really transforms life. It&rsquo;s a trustworthy truth that transforms us.&rdquo; - Alister McGrath
&ldquo;I think one of the things I didn&rsquo;t really fully appreciate was that Christianity was giving me more than just a kind of intellectual framework. It was strongly relational. This is about a friendship, a relationship with a living God who journeys with you as your Shepherd through life wherever you are going.&rdquo; - Alister McGrath
________________________
Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Video Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/4f79RAW">https://bit.ly/4f79RAW</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: <a href="https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx">https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx</a>&nbsp;
Scripture Series: <a href="https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU">https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU</a>&nbsp;
Celebrity Readings: <a href="https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ">https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ</a>&nbsp;
Video Devotionals: <a href="https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb">https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb</a>&nbsp;
Sleep Meditations: <a href="https://bit.ly/4w0xu37">https://bit.ly/4w0xu37</a> Shorts: <a href="https://bit.ly/3RHFubh">https://bit.ly/3RHFubh</a>&nbsp;
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What Difference Does Knowing God Make? with Brian Bird & Alister McGrath

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This week, we hear from TV host and podcaster Kelly Rizzo, who shares about the sudden loss of her husband, comedian Bob Saget, and how she views grief and coping in the aftermath of losing a partner. 

Next, we’ll hear from Dominique Jones, also known as DOE. She grew up leading worship in her father’s church before joining her family’s group, Forever Jones. After experiencing both success and setbacks in the music industry, she eventually stepped out as a solo artist and began finding the freedom to tell her own story through music.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Stacy Henagan

Upcoming interview: Brian Bird

Jesus Calling: Harvest of Blessings

 

Kelly Rizzo

Bob Saget

Eat Travel Rock

TMZ

www.Kelly-Rizzo.com

www.ComfortClubOnline.com

 

Dominique Jones

Forever Jones

www.doejonesmusic.com

Shiloh

 

Interview Quotes:

“In the very, very early stages of grief—like day one or week one—you can’t possibly think about moving forward or anything in those very early stages. You can only focus on ten seconds at a time, maybe a minute, maybe an hour. You can’t even think about next week.” - Kelly Rizzo 

“After a sudden loss, you’re just so disoriented and you’re in such a spiral and everything feels like a foggy dream and like this can’t be real. And the only thing that can get you through it is just literally focusing on today.” - Kelly Rizzo 

“I’m not saying I understand what His plan is, and I’m not saying I totally get it, and I am not saying that I’m happy with this situation, but I’m certainly not thinking even for a second that there is no God now because something bad happened to me.” - Kelly Rizzo

“For me, loving deeply but grieving deeply, is still continuing to share Bob with the world and sharing his message of love and laughter and just caring about people.” - Kelly Rizzo

“God speaks more than English. He doesn’t just speak English, He speaks heart. There’s a reason why I can communicate something through a note, and someone can understand and hear what my heart is saying to them without me using words.” - DOE 

“Every life experience, every failure, and every success—everyone has something to say and speak to concerning the fabric of our faith, the story of our faith.” - DOE

“When I was able to tell the truth and live the truth, I was actually able to find healing.” - DOE

“I think there’s room for my humanity in my relationship with God and my anguish and my pain.” - DOE

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Audio Interviews: https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Video Interviews: https://bit.ly/4f79RAW 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx 

Scripture Series: https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU 

Celebrity Readings: https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ 

Video Devotionals: https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb 

Sleep Meditations: https://bit.ly/4w0xu37
Shorts: https://bit.ly/3RHFubh 

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This week, we hear from <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5544019/">TV host and podcaster Kelly Rizzo</a>, who shares about the sudden loss of her husband, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0756114/">comedian Bob Saget</a>, and how she views grief and coping in the aftermath of losing a partner. Next, we&rsquo;ll hear from <a href="https://www.doejonesmusic.com/">Dominique Jones</a>, also known as DOE. She grew up leading worship in her father&rsquo;s church before joining her family&rsquo;s group, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever_Jones">Forever Jones</a>. After experiencing both success and setbacks in the music industry, she eventually stepped out as a solo artist and began finding the freedom to tell her own story through music.
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Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/video/growing-our-faith-through-our-grief/">Stacy Henagan</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0083349/">Brian Bird</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-calling-harvest-of-blessings/">Jesus Calling: Harvest of Blessings</a>
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<a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5544019/">Kelly Rizzo</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0756114/">Bob Saget</a>
<a href="https://eattravelrock.com/">Eat Travel Rock</a>
<a href="https://www.tmz.com/">TMZ</a>
<a href="http://www.kelly-rizzo.com">www.Kelly-Rizzo.com</a>
<a href="http://www.comfortclubonline.com">www.ComfortClubOnline.com</a>
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<a href="https://www.doejonesmusic.com/">Dominique Jones</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever_Jones">Forever Jones</a>
<a href="https://www.doejonesmusic.com/">www.doejonesmusic.com</a>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/2DFBA9YX4pCrGdTGpaxdhZ">Shiloh</a>
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Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;In the very, very early stages of grief&mdash;like day one or week one&mdash;you can&rsquo;t possibly think about moving forward or anything in those very early stages. You can only focus on ten seconds at a time, maybe a minute, maybe an hour. You can&rsquo;t even think about next week.&rdquo; - Kelly Rizzo&nbsp;
&ldquo;After a sudden loss, you&rsquo;re just so disoriented and you&rsquo;re in such a spiral and everything feels like a foggy dream and like this can&rsquo;t be real. And the only thing that can get you through it is just literally focusing on today.&rdquo; - Kelly Rizzo&nbsp;
&ldquo;I&rsquo;m not saying I understand what His plan is, and I&rsquo;m not saying I totally get it, and I am not saying that I&rsquo;m happy with this situation, but I&rsquo;m certainly not thinking even for a second that there is no God now because something bad happened to me.&rdquo; - Kelly Rizzo
&ldquo;For me, loving deeply but grieving deeply, is still continuing to share Bob with the world and sharing his message of love and laughter and just caring about people.&rdquo; - Kelly Rizzo
&ldquo;God speaks more than English. He doesn&rsquo;t just speak English, He speaks heart. There&rsquo;s a reason why I can communicate something through a note, and someone can understand and hear what my heart is saying to them without me using words.&rdquo; - DOE&nbsp;
&ldquo;Every life experience, every failure, and every success&mdash;everyone has something to say and speak to concerning the fabric of our faith, the story of our faith.&rdquo; - DOE
&ldquo;When I was able to tell the truth and live the truth, I was actually able to find healing.&rdquo; - DOE
&ldquo;I think there&rsquo;s room for my humanity in my relationship with God and my anguish and my pain.&rdquo; - DOE
________________________
Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Video Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/4f79RAW">https://bit.ly/4f79RAW</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: <a href="https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx">https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx</a>&nbsp;
Scripture Series: <a href="https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU">https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU</a>&nbsp;
Celebrity Readings: <a href="https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ">https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ</a>&nbsp;
Video Devotionals: <a href="https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb">https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb</a>&nbsp;
Sleep Meditations: <a href="https://bit.ly/4w0xu37">https://bit.ly/4w0xu37</a> Shorts: <a href="https://bit.ly/3RHFubh">https://bit.ly/3RHFubh</a>&nbsp;
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From Heartbreak to Healing: Kelly Rizzo & DOE

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This week, we hear from legendary husband and wife songwriting team Bill and Gloria Gaither, who went from teaching school in a small Indiana town to writing some of the most sung hymns and songs in the modern church, including “Because He Lives” and “He Touched Me.” They’ll talk about the lessons they’ve learned about failure, success, and how one of their most famous songs came from a time when the world around them felt anything but stable.

Next, we’ll hear from The Voice season twelve winner Chris Blue, who initially turned down multiple opportunities to audition for The Voice. He’ll share how he eventually returned to his family’s gospel music roots after years of pursuing a different path.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Jordan Smith

Upcoming interview: Kelly Rizzo

 

Bill and Gloria Gaither

Dottie Rambo 

www.gaither.com

 

Chris Blue

The Voice season twelve

The Jackson 5

Foundations: The Hymns of My Heart

 

Interview Quotes:

“Jesus Himself was born into the most unstable of worlds. And so we go on with our life because the resurrection is true. It’s not just a one-time shot in history. The resurrection is built into every fiber of creation. It’s everywhere around us, and we can believe that because He lives, we can face tomorrow.” - Gloria Gaither 

“Be good to that gift that God has given you.” - Bill Gaither

“We’re constantly teaching, and one of the best teachers is failure. If you learn from failure, it makes you wise.” - Gloria Gaither

“If you get up in the morning with expectations, you are bound to be disappointed. But if you get up in the morning with expectancy, saying, ‘What is God going to do today?’ then you’re never disappointed, and you’re always in awe of what God does.” - Gloria Gaither

“The pines are green. The sky is blue. It’s a riotous circus of color. Now I can either just go about my business and not notice that, or I can take that in and realize that God is sending us love letters from His heart every minute of every day. It’s up to us whether we read them or not.” - Gloria Gaither 

“We have this moment to hold in our hands and to touch as it slips through our fingers like sand. Yesterday’s gone, and tomorrow may never come, but at least we have this moment today. And Jesus said, ‘I’ve come to bring you life more abundantly.’ And that is the abundant life—when you can use the God-given resources that He’s given to your mind and make the right choices on how you spend your time.” - Bill Gaither 

“I think it’s a wonderful gift that prayer is portable.” - Gloria Gaither

“When it came down to being selected [for The Voice] and being the last one, I thought, Man, I’m wasting my time. Jesus never called me to this. Maybe I heard wrong. But I didn’t. He was saving the first to be last and the last to be first.” - Chris Blue

“After you win, you get money, you get the accolades, you get the deal, you get different opportunities. But then it goes away. That was hard at first because my expectation was you win and you just keep climbing. But that wasn’t the reality for me. You have to really work. You have to continue grinding. You have to continue pushing as if you never won.” - Chris Blue 

“When Jesus called me to sing Christian music again, I knew that I needed to let the world know that sometimes you can stray away from your path, but like GPS, it’ll always recalculate and get you back on track.” - Chris Blue 

________________________

Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!

Audio Interviews: https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Video Interviews: https://bit.ly/4f79RAW 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx 

Scripture Series: https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU 

Celebrity Readings: https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ 

Video Devotionals: https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb 

Sleep Meditations: https://bit.ly/4w0xu37
Shorts: https://bit.ly/3RHFubh 

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This week, we hear from legendary husband and wife <a href="https://gaither.com/">songwriting team Bill and Gloria Gaither</a>, who went from teaching school in a small Indiana town to writing some of the most sung hymns and songs in the modern church, including &ldquo;Because He Lives&rdquo; and &ldquo;He Touched Me.&rdquo; They&rsquo;ll talk about the lessons they&rsquo;ve learned about failure, success, and how one of their most famous songs came from a time when the world around them felt anything but stable.
Next, we&rsquo;ll hear from <a href="https://www.chrisblue.com/">The Voice season twelve winner Chris Blue</a>, who initially turned down multiple opportunities to audition for The Voice. He&rsquo;ll share how he eventually returned to his family&rsquo;s gospel music roots after years of pursuing a different path.
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Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/singing-past-the-silence-jordan-smith-tyler-white/">Jordan Smith</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5544019/">Kelly Rizzo</a>
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<a href="https://gaither.com/">Bill and Gloria Gaither</a>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/1DhNazlhGxkLwfy0YGSnYP">Dottie Rambo</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://gaither.com/">www.gaither.com</a>
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<a href="https://www.chrisblue.com/">Chris Blue</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/news/ni61131114/">The Voice season twelve</a>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/2iE18Oxc8YSumAU232n4rW">The Jackson 5</a>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/7dxrQPOIvLQfegAnMet5c9">Foundations: The Hymns of My Heart</a>
&nbsp;
Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;Jesus Himself was born into the most unstable of worlds. And so we go on with our life because the resurrection is true. It&rsquo;s not just a one-time shot in history. The resurrection is built into every fiber of creation. It&rsquo;s everywhere around us, and we can believe that because He lives, we can face tomorrow.&rdquo; - Gloria Gaither&nbsp;
&ldquo;Be good to that gift that God has given you.&rdquo; - Bill Gaither
&ldquo;We&rsquo;re constantly teaching, and one of the best teachers is failure. If you learn from failure, it makes you wise.&rdquo; - Gloria Gaither
&ldquo;If you get up in the morning with expectations, you are bound to be disappointed. But if you get up in the morning with expectancy, saying, &lsquo;What is God going to do today?&rsquo; then you&rsquo;re never disappointed, and you&rsquo;re always in awe of what God does.&rdquo; - Gloria Gaither
&ldquo;The pines are green. The sky is blue. It&rsquo;s a riotous circus of color. Now I can either just go about my business and not notice that, or I can take that in and realize that God is sending us love letters from His heart every minute of every day. It&rsquo;s up to us whether we read them or not.&rdquo; - Gloria Gaither&nbsp;
&ldquo;We have this moment to hold in our hands and to touch as it slips through our fingers like sand. Yesterday&rsquo;s gone, and tomorrow may never come, but at least we have this moment today. And Jesus said, &lsquo;I&rsquo;ve come to bring you life more abundantly.&rsquo; And that is the abundant life&mdash;when you can use the God-given resources that He&rsquo;s given to your mind and make the right choices on how you spend your time.&rdquo; - Bill Gaither&nbsp;
&ldquo;I think it&rsquo;s a wonderful gift that prayer is portable.&rdquo; - Gloria Gaither
&ldquo;When it came down to being selected [for The Voice] and being the last one, I thought, Man, I&rsquo;m wasting my time. Jesus never called me to this. Maybe I heard wrong. But I didn&rsquo;t. He was saving the first to be last and the last to be first.&rdquo; - Chris Blue
&ldquo;After you win, you get money, you get the accolades, you get the deal, you get different opportunities. But then it goes away. That was hard at first because my expectation was you win and you just keep climbing. But that wasn&rsquo;t the reality for me. You have to really work. You have to continue grinding. You have to continue pushing as if you never won.&rdquo; - Chris Blue&nbsp;
&ldquo;When Jesus called me to sing Christian music again, I knew that I needed to let the world know that sometimes you can stray away from your path, but like GPS, it&rsquo;ll always recalculate and get you back on track.&rdquo; - Chris Blue&nbsp;
________________________
Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Video Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/4f79RAW">https://bit.ly/4f79RAW</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: <a href="https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx">https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx</a>&nbsp;
Scripture Series: <a href="https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU">https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU</a>&nbsp;
Celebrity Readings: <a href="https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ">https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ</a>&nbsp;
Video Devotionals: <a href="https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb">https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb</a>&nbsp;
Sleep Meditations: <a href="https://bit.ly/4w0xu37">https://bit.ly/4w0xu37</a> Shorts: <a href="https://bit.ly/3RHFubh">https://bit.ly/3RHFubh</a>&nbsp;
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Facing Tomorrow When the World Feels Unstable: Bill and Gloria Gaither & Chris Blue

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From his roots in Virginia to decades with the Statler Brothers and beyond, Jimmy Fortune has walked through seasons of success, heartache, and loss. In this episode of Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer, Jimmy shares how a praying mother and a Bible left open in a hotel room kept him seeking God, and why he continues to hold on to hope through every note and every trial.

 

Guest’s Links
Facebook: @JimmyFortuneMusic

Instagram: @jimmy.fortune

Watch this interview on our YouTube channel! https://bit.ly/3PIHsqI 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

From his roots in Virginia to decades with the Statler Brothers and beyond, Jimmy Fortune has walked through seasons of success, heartache, and loss. In this episode of Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer, Jimmy shares how a praying mother and a Bible left open in a hotel room kept him seeking God, and why he continues to hold on to hope through every note and every trial.
&nbsp;
Guest&rsquo;s Links Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/JimmyFortuneMusic/">@JimmyFortuneMusic</a>
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jimmy.fortune">@jimmy.fortune</a>
Watch this interview on our YouTube channel! <a href="https://bit.ly/3PIHsqI">https://bit.ly/3PIHsqI</a>&nbsp;
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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

[JESUS LISTENS MONTHLY SERIES] When Heartache Comes, Help Me Find Hope: Jimmy Fortune

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/434f4217-8faa-4d64-bbf7-b4c000ef245d/transcript

Best known for his role as Brick Heck on the hit NBC show The Middle, actor and YouTuber Atticus Shaffer shares the profound lessons learned from living with the chronic pain and the medical challenges of osteogenesis imperfecta. He also reflects on his moving caretaking journey, discussing the role reversal of supporting his mother through her own health struggles and how their shared hardships deepened his capacity for compassion.

Later, we speak with content creator Ariel Fitz-Patrick. Raised in a strict, rule-bound home, Ariel grew up hiding her mistakes out of shame. As an adult, she learned to run toward God instead of away, transforming her perspective on grace. Today, she leverages her social media platform to promote a healthy lifestyle for Gen Z.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Lisa Harper

Upcoming interview: Bill and Gloria Gaither

Jesus Listens: Prayers for Every Season

 

Atticus Shaffer 

osteogenesis imperfecta

The Class

The Middle

AtticusShafferVlog

 

Ariel Fitz-Patrick

Imma See for Myself

 

Interview Quotes:

“There are many times in this life where God does not give a direct answer immediately. Sometimes He doesn’t give a direct answer at all. But we as Christ followers are in need of still pursuing the upward call of Christ, despite what we may or may not understand, because we need to remember who God is and who His character is.” - Atticus Shaffer

“My respect for [my mom] as a nurturer, as a caretaker, and quite frankly, that of those who truly and genuinely are caretakers and have a nurturing spirit within them, has only quadrupled because of the work and the care and the dedication and the love that is truly had.” - Atticus Shaffer 

“I’m very grateful for all of the different things that I have been able to do in my life thus far, namely The Middle, and being able to be one of the leads on a now going-down-in-history family sitcom.” - Atticus Shaffer 

“I’m realizing every step of the way is important in developing who I am, my strength, and how I will be able to deal with the opportunities coming my way—making sure I don’t compromise, making sure that I know who I was before I even got on social media. It was all so necessary.” - Ariel Fitz-Patrick 

“It’s always been important to me, especially when I became a young adult, to humanize the Christian walk. Because the way I grew up, there’s this disconnect with reality.” - Ariel Fitz-Patrick

“Most of us know the message of forgiveness—you go to God, you confess your sins, He forgives you. But then we end up in this loop sometimes of being repeat offenders. And it’s kind of like, Well, if I’m a repeat offender, I can’t just keep going back to God because now He’s mad at me. And I think that’s what’s missing in so many of our walks. There’s nothing perfect about humans. The only thing that makes us perfect is when we are fully in Christ.” - Ariel Fitz-Patrick 

“I think it’s important for me, and creatives like me, to use our imaginations to paint the picture that the Bible is singing, because not everybody’s going to pick up [the Bible]. So I think that’s the importance of using social media and imagination and creativity to reach the generation that’s here now.” - Ariel Fitz-Patrick

________________________

Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!

Audio Interviews: https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Video Interviews: https://bit.ly/4f79RAW 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx 

Scripture Series: https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU 

Celebrity Readings: https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ 

Video Devotionals: https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb 

Sleep Meditations: https://bit.ly/4w0xu37 
Shorts: https://bit.ly/3RHFubh 

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Best known for his role as Brick Heck on the hit NBC show The Middle, actor and YouTuber <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2557831/">Atticus Shaffer</a> shares the profound lessons learned from living with the chronic pain and the medical challenges of <a href="https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/osteogenesis-imperfecta">osteogenesis imperfecta</a>. He also reflects on his moving caretaking journey, discussing the role reversal of supporting his mother through her own health struggles and how their shared hardships deepened his capacity for compassion.
Later, we speak with content creator <a href="https://www.arielfitzpatrick.com/">Ariel Fitz-Patrick</a>. Raised in a strict, rule-bound home, Ariel grew up hiding her mistakes out of shame. As an adult, she learned to run toward God instead of away, transforming her perspective on grace. Today, she leverages her social media platform to promote a healthy lifestyle for Gen Z.
&nbsp;
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/theres-hope-in-the-residue-of-our-heartache-lisa-harper-richard-gamble/">Lisa Harper</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://gaither.com/">Bill and Gloria Gaither</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400254671?lv=shuf&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback">Jesus Listens: Prayers for Every Season</a>
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<a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2557831/">Atticus Shaffer</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/osteogenesis-imperfecta">osteogenesis imperfecta</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2557831/">The Class</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442464/">The Middle</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AtticusShafferVlog">AtticusShafferVlog</a>
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<a href="https://www.arielfitzpatrick.com/">Ariel Fitz-Patrick</a>
<a href="https://us.amazon.com/Imma-See-Myself-Stubborn-Trusting-ebook/dp/B0G4LWX56W">Imma See for Myself</a>
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Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;There are many times in this life where God does not give a direct answer immediately. Sometimes He doesn&rsquo;t give a direct answer at all. But we as Christ followers are in need of still pursuing the upward call of Christ, despite what we may or may not understand, because we need to remember who God is and who His character is.&rdquo; - Atticus Shaffer
&ldquo;My respect for [my mom] as a nurturer, as a caretaker, and quite frankly, that of those who truly and genuinely are caretakers and have a nurturing spirit within them, has only quadrupled because of the work and the care and the dedication and the love that is truly had.&rdquo; - Atticus Shaffer&nbsp;
&ldquo;I&rsquo;m very grateful for all of the different things that I have been able to do in my life thus far, namely The Middle, and being able to be one of the leads on a now going-down-in-history family sitcom.&rdquo; - Atticus Shaffer&nbsp;
&ldquo;I&rsquo;m realizing every step of the way is important in developing who I am, my strength, and how I will be able to deal with the opportunities coming my way&mdash;making sure I don&rsquo;t compromise, making sure that I know who I was before I even got on social media. It was all so necessary.&rdquo; - Ariel Fitz-Patrick&nbsp;
&ldquo;It&rsquo;s always been important to me, especially when I became a young adult, to humanize the Christian walk. Because the way I grew up, there&rsquo;s this disconnect with reality.&rdquo; - Ariel Fitz-Patrick
&ldquo;Most of us know the message of forgiveness&mdash;you go to God, you confess your sins, He forgives you. But then we end up in this loop sometimes of being repeat offenders. And it&rsquo;s kind of like, Well, if I&rsquo;m a repeat offender, I can&rsquo;t just keep going back to God because now He&rsquo;s mad at me. And I think that&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s missing in so many of our walks. There&rsquo;s nothing perfect about humans. The only thing that makes us perfect is when we are fully in Christ.&rdquo; - Ariel Fitz-Patrick&nbsp;
&ldquo;I think it&rsquo;s important for me, and creatives like me, to use our imaginations to paint the picture that the Bible is singing, because not everybody&rsquo;s going to pick up [the Bible]. So I think that&rsquo;s the importance of using social media and imagination and creativity to reach the generation that&rsquo;s here now.&rdquo; - Ariel Fitz-Patrick
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Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Video Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/4f79RAW">https://bit.ly/4f79RAW</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: <a href="https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx">https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx</a>&nbsp;
Scripture Series: <a href="https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU">https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU</a>&nbsp;
Celebrity Readings: <a href="https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ">https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ</a>&nbsp;
Video Devotionals: <a href="https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb">https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb</a>&nbsp;
Sleep Meditations: <a href="https://bit.ly/4w0xu37">https://bit.ly/4w0xu37</a>&nbsp; Shorts: <a href="https://bit.ly/3RHFubh">https://bit.ly/3RHFubh</a>&nbsp;
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Choosing Authenticity in a Curated World: Atticus Shaffer & Ariel Fitz-Patrick

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Millions have been encouraged and inspired by the words of the #1 best-selling 365-day devotional "Jesus Calling." Listen to real-life stories of faith as told by those who have experienced the power of living in His presence.

Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith

Millions have been encouraged and inspired by the words of the #1 best-selling 365-day devotional "Jesus Calling." Listen to real-life stories of faith as told by those who have experienced the power of living in His presence.

Jesus Calling

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