Welcome to a special bonus episode of the Jesus Calling Podcast. Today, we’ll hear from a number of guests who have previously appeared on the show, giving us their insights and guidance about what helps them when they experience fear and uncertainty in their lives—including Curtis Chang, Jennie Finch, Dr. Michelle Bengston, Dr. Henry Cloud, and Jesse Hutch. 

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

 

Curtis Chang

Jennie Finch

Dr. Michelle Bengston

Dr. Henry Cloud

Jesse Hutch

 

For more interviews like this, check out the Peace for Uncertain Times series on the Jesus Calling YouTube channel: https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

Welcome to a special bonus episode of the Jesus Calling Podcast. Today, we&rsquo;ll hear from a number of guests who have previously appeared on the show, giving us their insights and guidance about what helps them when they experience fear and uncertainty in their lives&mdash;including Curtis Chang, Jennie Finch, Dr. Michelle Bengston, Dr. Henry Cloud, and Jesse Hutch.&nbsp;
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Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
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<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/what-anxiety-can-teach-us-about-god-curtis-chang-kim-gravel/">Curtis Chang</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrcZ4z2-HlE&amp;list=PLyTBJOX8CfX7GxaX3L6hlrwgsxtgOohT_&amp;index=12">Jennie Finch</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkVu6gQX6MU&amp;list=PLyTBJOX8CfX7GxaX3L6hlrwgsxtgOohT_&amp;index=14">Dr. Michelle Bengston</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpbFwgDhkY8&amp;list=PLyTBJOX8CfX7GxaX3L6hlrwgsxtgOohT_&amp;index=2">Dr. Henry Cloud</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/navigating-lifes-dark-valleys-jesse-hutch-randy-frazee/">Jesse Hutch</a>
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For more interviews like this, check out the Peace for Uncertain Times series on the Jesus Calling YouTube channel: <a href="https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u">https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u</a>&nbsp;
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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

Millions have been encouraged and inspired by the words of the #1 best-selling 365-day devotional "Jesus Calling." Listen to real-life stories of faith as told by those who have experienced the power of living in His presence.

Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith

Millions have been encouraged and inspired by the words of the #1 best-selling 365-day devotional "Jesus Calling." Listen to real-life stories of faith as told by those who have experienced the power of living in His presence.

Jesus Calling

[BONUS] Coping with Uncertainty and Fear

This week, we’re joined by author and speaker John O’Leary. John shares the story of a joyful Midwestern childhood that was forever changed at age nine by a devastating house fire that doctors said he would not survive. Through the unwavering love of his parents, the kindness of unexpected heroes, and a hard-fought choice to live, John’s life became a testimony to hope rising from unimaginable pain. 

Later in the episode, we’ll hear from finance executive and advisor Athanase Kadita Tshibaka, known as A.T., who was born in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. A.T. shares a journey shaped by poverty, displacement, and profound loss, and the faith that sustained him through imprisonment, injustice, and life-threatening trials.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Alice Marie Johnson

Upcoming interview: Ed Newton

 

John O’Leary

Soul on Fire

Jack Buck

www.johnolearyinspires.com

 

Athanase Kadita Tshibaka

Son of the Congo

 

This episode is sponsored by Trinity Debt Management. If you are struggling with debt, call Trinity today. Trinity’s counselors have the knowledge and resources to make a difference. Our intention is to help people become debt-free, and most importantly, remain debt-free for keeps! Call us at 1-800-793-8548 | https://trinitycredit.org

TrinityCredit – Call us at 1-800-793-8548. Whether we’re helping people pay off their unsecured debt or offering assistance to those behind in their mortgage payments, Trinity has the knowledge and resources to make a difference.https://trinitycredit.org

 

Interview Quotes:

“The heroes show up, and none of them wear tights. None of them wear capes. They just look like ordinary friends who faithfully live out the message of Jesus in life.” - John O’Leary

“I think when we get burned in life, whatever that looks like for all of us, we can become bitter about it and wonder where God is in our mess. Or you can recognize that God is all over this mess with you and that you can reveal that goodness and that grace and that mercy to others through your life.” - John O’Leary 

“I think when you go through a [difficult] event, at any age, it’s easy to really quickly decide whether I will be a victim or a victor to this. Even if you feel like you have no talent, your life is a precious, priceless gift. You have one job, to say yes to being used for good.” - John O’Leary

“Your life, in spite of what you’ve been through or done, can be used in mighty ways.” - John O’Leary 

“Even though we were essentially living in poverty… [my mother] had to struggle, she had to really work hard. But even with her very meager means, my mom showed me the value of hospitality and the value of generosity. There was never an instant where some strangers came and she let them just go hungry. Above it all, God’s grace.” - Athanase Kadita Tshibaka 

“When I decided to accept Christ as Lord and Savior, I had nobody pushing me, I had nobody influencing me except that very still voice, very gentle, saying that was my day of decision.” - Athanse Kadita Tshibaka

“Like most people, I am a cracked pot, a leaking vessel, and I need to be refilled by His Holy Spirit daily. Reading the Bible and being attentive to the promptings of the Holy Spirit helps keep us growing.” - Athanase Kadita Tshibaka

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Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!

Audio Episodes:     https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Bonus Podcasts:     https://bit.ly/3vfLlGw 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer:  https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C 

Peace for Everyday Life:     https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj 

Peace in Uncertain Times:     https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u 

What’s Good?     https://bit.ly/3vc2cKj 

Enneagram:     https://bit.ly/3hzRCCY 

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This week, we&rsquo;re joined by author and speaker <a href="https://johnolearyinspires.com/johns-story/">John O&rsquo;Leary</a>. John shares the story of a joyful Midwestern childhood that was forever changed at age nine by a devastating house fire that doctors said he would not survive. Through the unwavering love of his parents, the kindness of unexpected heroes, and a hard-fought choice to live, John&rsquo;s life became a testimony to hope rising from unimaginable pain.&nbsp;
Later in the episode, we&rsquo;ll hear from finance executive and advisor <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kadita-tshibaka-7b04aa13">Athanase Kadita Tshibaka</a>, known as A.T., who was born in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. A.T. shares a journey shaped by poverty, displacement, and profound loss, and the faith that sustained him through imprisonment, injustice, and life-threatening trials.
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Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/god-can-bring-hope-and-healing-to-anyone-alice-marie-johnson-christina-zorich/">Alice Marie Johnson</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://www.communitybible.com/pastor-ed">Ed Newton</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://johnolearyinspires.com/johns-story/">John O&rsquo;Leary</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28078628/">Soul on Fire</a>
<a href="https://historicmissourians.shsmo.org/jack-buck/">Jack Buck</a>
<a href="http://www.johnolearyinspires.com">www.johnolearyinspires.com</a>
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<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kadita-tshibaka-7b04aa13">Athanase Kadita Tshibaka</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Son-Congo-Journey-Tragedy-Transformation/dp/163763479X">Son of the Congo</a>
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This episode is sponsored by Trinity Debt Management. If you are struggling with debt, call Trinity today. Trinity&rsquo;s counselors have the knowledge and resources to make a difference. Our intention is to help people become debt-free, and most importantly, remain debt-free for keeps! Call us at 1-800-793-8548 | <a href="https://trinitycredit.org/">https://trinitycredit.org</a>
TrinityCredit &ndash; Call us at 1-800-793-8548. Whether we&rsquo;re helping people pay off their unsecured debt or offering assistance to those behind in their mortgage payments, Trinity has the knowledge and resources to make a difference. <a href="https://trinitycredit.org/">https://trinitycredit.org</a>
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Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;The heroes show up, and none of them wear tights. None of them wear capes. They just look like ordinary friends who faithfully live out the message of Jesus in life.&rdquo; - John O&rsquo;Leary
&ldquo;I think when we get burned in life, whatever that looks like for all of us, we can become bitter about it and wonder where God is in our mess. Or you can recognize that God is all over this mess with you and that you can reveal that goodness and that grace and that mercy to others through your life.&rdquo; - John O&rsquo;Leary&nbsp;
&ldquo;I think when you go through a [difficult] event, at any age, it&rsquo;s easy to really quickly decide whether I will be a victim or a victor to this. Even if you feel like you have no talent, your life is a precious, priceless gift. You have one job, to say yes to being used for good.&rdquo; - John O&rsquo;Leary
&ldquo;Your life, in spite of what you&rsquo;ve been through or done, can be used in mighty ways.&rdquo; - John O&rsquo;Leary&nbsp;
&ldquo;Even though we were essentially living in poverty&hellip; [my mother] had to struggle, she had to really work hard. But even with her very meager means, my mom showed me the value of hospitality and the value of generosity. There was never an instant where some strangers came and she let them just go hungry. Above it all, God&rsquo;s grace.&rdquo; - Athanase Kadita Tshibaka&nbsp;
&ldquo;When I decided to accept Christ as Lord and Savior, I had nobody pushing me, I had nobody influencing me except that very still voice, very gentle, saying that was my day of decision.&rdquo; - Athanse Kadita Tshibaka
&ldquo;Like most people, I am a cracked pot, a leaking vessel, and I need to be refilled by His Holy Spirit daily. Reading the Bible and being attentive to the promptings of the Holy Spirit helps keep us growing.&rdquo; - Athanase Kadita Tshibaka
________________________
Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Episodes: &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Bonus Podcasts: &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3vfLlGw">https://bit.ly/3vfLlGw</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer:&nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C">https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C</a>&nbsp;
Peace for Everyday Life: &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj">https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj</a>&nbsp;
Peace in Uncertain Times: &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u">https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u</a>&nbsp;
What&rsquo;s Good? &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3vc2cKj">https://bit.ly/3vc2cKj</a>&nbsp;
Enneagram: &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3hzRCCY">https://bit.ly/3hzRCCY</a>&nbsp;
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Choosing Victory Over Victimhood: John O’Leary & Athanase Kadita Tshibaka

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/f589dfe2-e453-4cd4-a551-b3f4012fc435/transcript

What if the struggles in your marriage aren’t just about today, but about untold stories from long ago? In this episode of “Jesus Listens,” Dr. Dan Allender and Dr. Steve Call explore how past wounds, unspoken patterns, and even everyday tones of contempt shape our relationships more than we realize. The themes discussed are found in their new book “The Deep-Rooted Marriage.” 

Guest’s Links
YouTube: @AllenderCenter
Facebook: @allendercenter

Instagram: @reconnectmarriage | @allendercenter

 

Watch this interview on our YouTube channel! https://bit.ly/4pqVSZ4 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

What if the struggles in your marriage aren&rsquo;t just about today, but about untold stories from long ago? In this episode of &ldquo;Jesus Listens,&rdquo; Dr. Dan Allender and Dr. Steve Call explore how past wounds, unspoken patterns, and even everyday tones of contempt shape our relationships more than we realize. The themes discussed are found in their new book &ldquo;The Deep-Rooted Marriage.&rdquo;&nbsp;
Guest&rsquo;s Links YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AllenderCenter">@AllenderCenter </a>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/allendercenter">@allendercenter</a>
Instagram:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reconnectmarriage">@reconnectmarriage</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/allendercenter">@allendercenter</a>
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Watch this interview on our YouTube channel! <a href="https://bit.ly/4pqVSZ4">https://bit.ly/4pqVSZ4</a>&nbsp;
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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

[JESUS LISTENS MONTHLY SERIES] How Do We Heal Past Wounds in Marriage? Part 1 with Dr. Dan Allender & Dr. Steve Call

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/3f14bbd6-9591-451a-9e4f-b3df013ccbf3/transcript

This week, we’re thrilled to be celebrating our 500th podcast episode with actor Sarah Drew, known for her roles in Grey’s Anatomy and Everwood. Sarah shares how her faith shaped her career from a pastor’s kid who found joy in acting to eventually navigating the pressures of Hollywood. She discusses the rewarding challenge of developing her Grey’s Anatomy character, April Kepner, into an honest portrayal of a person of faith, including the storyline of April’s crisis of faith and her eventual return. Later in the episode, we’ll hear from actor Janine Turner. Janine recounts her own tumultuous path to Hollywood, characterized by countless rejections and setbacks. She shares the story of her darkest period, when she had only eight dollars and felt entirely alone, right before landing her breakthrough, unexpected role as a bush pilot in Northern Exposure. Janine’s experience with closed doors taught her to wait on unexpected, better opportunities—proving that perseverance, even through black holes of despair, can take us to where we’re meant to be.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview:Erin Hicks Moon

Upcoming interview: John O’Leary

Jesus Listens: Prayers for Every Season

Sarah Drew

Eric Liddell

Grey’s Anatomy

 

Janine Turner

Northern Exposure

Rocky

www.JanineTurner.com

Northern Disclosure

 

This episode is sponsored by Trinity Debt Management. If you are struggling with debt, call Trinity today. Trinity’s counselors have the knowledge and resources to make a difference. Our intention is to help people become debt-free, and most importantly, remain debt-free for keeps! Call us at 1-800-793-8548 | https://trinitycredit.org

TrinityCredit – Call us at 1-800-793-8548. Whether we’re helping people pay off their unsecured debt or offering assistance to those behind in their mortgage payments, Trinity has the knowledge and resources to make a difference.https://trinitycredit.org

 

Interview Quotes:

“The gift of having so many seasons to develop [a character] is you actually have time to sort of unpack and allow someone to take different turns and twists and upside downs. You get to experience a far more human life when you see someone on a series for a long period of time.” - Sarah Drew  

“If I don’t have the thing that rooted me and anchored me to the whole purpose of my life, if that somehow comes undone and is shaking under my feet, then what am I doing here? How do you keep breathing when you are so shaken to your core?” - Sarah Drew  

“So many people are suffering, so when they welcome a character [into their life], day after day, week after week, year after year, and really become kind of friends with this person who’s walked this path, they’re feeling through it with them.” - Sarah Drew 

“In every job I walk on to, I want the folks that I’m working with, the cast, crew, and everyone to really feel a sense of belonging and that they deserve to be there and that they are part of this community and we’re so happy that they’re here and we’re all in this together. I think that’s one of the biggest ways that I live out my faith.” - Sarah Drew 

“If God closes the door, He opens the window. There will be a window. There will be the right thing at the right time.” - Janine Turner

“I didn’t give up before the miracle because eighty percent of success is just showing up.” - Janine Turner 

“[Northern Exposure] became the most miraculous opportunity for me that I think also used my talents in such a way that were dignified, respected, and it had an impact that made people’s lives happier. Don’t let anybody put out your flame that God has given you or me, and don’t give up before that miracle.” - Janine Turner 

“I’ve hit this kind of, literally, sort of a wall of blackness where I’m desperate or I’m in a panic attack or I’m crying hysterically. I don’t see the light, I don’t see the hope, but there’s always been something that has kept me from going over that cliff. I believe it is my faith and it’s God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit. If I just stick with it, tomorrow will be a better day.” - Janine Turner

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Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!

Audio Episodes:     https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Bonus Podcasts:     https://bit.ly/3vfLlGw 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer:  https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C 

Peace for Everyday Life:     https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj 

Peace in Uncertain Times:     https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u 

What’s Good?     https://bit.ly/3vc2cKj 

Enneagram:     https://bit.ly/3hzRCCY 

________________________ 

Connect with Jesus Calling

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Twitter

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This week, we&rsquo;re thrilled to be celebrating our 500th podcast episode with actor <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0237711/">Sarah Drew</a>, known for her roles in Grey&rsquo;s Anatomy and Everwood. Sarah shares how her faith shaped her career from a pastor&rsquo;s kid who found joy in acting to eventually navigating the pressures of Hollywood. She discusses the rewarding challenge of developing her Grey&rsquo;s Anatomy character, April Kepner, into an honest portrayal of a person of faith, including the storyline of April&rsquo;s crisis of faith and her eventual return. Later in the episode, we&rsquo;ll hear from actor <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005508/">Janine Turner</a>. Janine recounts her own tumultuous path to Hollywood, characterized by countless rejections and setbacks. She shares the story of her darkest period, when she had only eight dollars and felt entirely alone, right before landing her breakthrough, unexpected role as a bush pilot in Northern Exposure. Janine&rsquo;s experience with closed doors taught her to wait on unexpected, better opportunities&mdash;proving that perseverance, even through black holes of despair, can take us to where we&rsquo;re meant to be.
&nbsp;
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/trusting-god-in-the-not-yet-and-the-what-if-dawnchere-wilkerson-erin-hicks-moon/">Erin Hicks Moon</a>
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://johnolearyinspires.com/johns-story/">John O&rsquo;Leary</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Listens-Prayers-365-Day-Illustrated/dp/1400254671">Jesus Listens: Prayers for Every Season</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0237711/">Sarah Drew</a>
<a href="https://ericliddell.org/about-eric-liddell/">Eric Liddell</a>
<a href="https://abc.com/show/b7d90f97-dbb2-4ab5-b141-f9cbeae53581">Grey&rsquo;s Anatomy</a>
&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005508/">Janine Turner</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098878/">Northern Exposure</a>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075148/">Rocky</a>
<a href="http://www.janineturner.com">www.JanineTurner.com</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NorthernDisclosurePodcast">Northern Disclosure</a>
&nbsp;
This episode is sponsored by Trinity Debt Management. If you are struggling with debt, call Trinity today. Trinity&rsquo;s counselors have the knowledge and resources to make a difference. Our intention is to help people become debt-free, and most importantly, remain debt-free for keeps! Call us at 1-800-793-8548 | <a href="https://trinitycredit.org/">https://trinitycredit.org</a>
TrinityCredit &ndash; Call us at 1-800-793-8548. Whether we&rsquo;re helping people pay off their unsecured debt or offering assistance to those behind in their mortgage payments, Trinity has the knowledge and resources to make a difference. <a href="https://trinitycredit.org/">https://trinitycredit.org</a>
&nbsp;
Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;The gift of having so many seasons to develop [a character] is you actually have time to sort of unpack and allow someone to take different turns and twists and upside downs. You get to experience a far more human life when you see someone on a series for a long period of time.&rdquo; - Sarah Drew&nbsp;&nbsp;
&ldquo;If I don&rsquo;t have the thing that rooted me and anchored me to the whole purpose of my life, if that somehow comes undone and is shaking under my feet, then what am I doing here? How do you keep breathing when you are so shaken to your core?&rdquo; - Sarah Drew&nbsp;&nbsp;
&ldquo;So many people are suffering, so when they welcome a character [into their life], day after day, week after week, year after year, and really become kind of friends with this person who&rsquo;s walked this path, they&rsquo;re feeling through it with them.&rdquo; - Sarah Drew&nbsp;
&ldquo;In every job I walk on to, I want the folks that I&rsquo;m working with, the cast, crew, and everyone to really feel a sense of belonging and that they deserve to be there and that they are part of this community and we&rsquo;re so happy that they&rsquo;re here and we&rsquo;re all in this together. I think that&rsquo;s one of the biggest ways that I live out my faith.&rdquo; - Sarah Drew&nbsp;
&ldquo;If God closes the door, He opens the window. There will be a window. There will be the right thing at the right time.&rdquo; - Janine Turner
&ldquo;I didn&rsquo;t give up before the miracle because eighty percent of success is just showing up.&rdquo; - Janine Turner&nbsp;
&ldquo;[Northern Exposure] became the most miraculous opportunity for me that I think also used my talents in such a way that were dignified, respected, and it had an impact that made people&rsquo;s lives happier. Don&rsquo;t let anybody put out your flame that God has given you or me, and don&rsquo;t give up before that miracle.&rdquo; - Janine Turner&nbsp;
&ldquo;I&rsquo;ve hit this kind of, literally, sort of a wall of blackness where I&rsquo;m desperate or I&rsquo;m in a panic attack or I&rsquo;m crying hysterically. I don&rsquo;t see the light, I don&rsquo;t see the hope, but there&rsquo;s always been something that has kept me from going over that cliff. I believe it is my faith and it&rsquo;s God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit. If I just stick with it, tomorrow will be a better day.&rdquo; - Janine Turner
________________________
Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Episodes: &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Bonus Podcasts: &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3vfLlGw">https://bit.ly/3vfLlGw</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer:&nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C">https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C</a>&nbsp;
Peace for Everyday Life: &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj">https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj</a>&nbsp;
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When You Hit a Wall, Lean on God: Sarah Drew & Janine Turner

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[BONUS] Coping with Uncertainty and Fear

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