Loon kicks off the episode by reflecting on how fame impacts loyalty and relationships, sharing his thoughts on the pressures of public perception and what it takes to navigate those challenges (1:00). The discussion opens with an in-depth look at the shocking breakup of hip-hop’s iconic couple, Remy Ma and Papoose. The crew breaks down their "Black Love" journey, exploring the allegations of infidelity and the public fallout that has fans questioning the couple's once unshakable bond (3:15). "Marriage on Pause" Remy Ma & Papoose Breakup Shakes Hip-Hop | Jay-Z’s Genius Move to Handle Explosive Allegations As the conversation heats up, Loon and the team shift focus to a major controversy involving Jay-Z and Sean "Diddy" Combs. They examine the recent lawsuit that accuses the two hip-hop moguls of misconduct with a 13-year-old girl in 2000. The crew analyzes inconsistencies in the accuser’s story and how Jay-Z’s legal team, led by Tony Buzbee, is preparing to address the allegations head-on. Loon delves into the strategic approach Jay-Z has taken to manage the crisis while protecting his legacy (27:20). Next, Loon shares his perspective on how these scandals shape the public’s perception of hip-hop icons, touching on the cultural ripple effects and the importance of maintaining credibility in the face of adversity (35:10). The conversation then expands to discuss how fame amplifies personal challenges and the unique difficulties celebrities face when trying to sustain authentic relationships (45:00). The episode doesn’t stop there! Loon reflects on the broader themes of loyalty, trust, and betrayal in relationships, inviting listeners to consider how these dynamics play out not just for celebrities, but in their own lives as well. With a mix of thought-provoking insights, candid opinions, and engaging commentary, this episode dives deep into the human side of hip-hop’s biggest stories. Whether you’re here for the celebrity drama, the cultural analysis, or Loon’s unfiltered take, this episode has something for everyone. Stick around for audience Q&A as Loon answers burning questions about the challenges of love and loyalty in today’s world (1:05:00), and much more! \ 00:00:00 - Explosive Start 00:00:29 - Big Moves Coming 00:04:46 - Love Gone Wrong 00:05:32 - Remy & Papoose’s Messy Truth 00:08:09 - Social Media Meltdown 00:10:51 - Battle Rap Bombshell 00:12:09 - Bugged Cars & Betrayals 00:13:39 - The “Trick Bag” Trap 00:15:38 - Loyalty Under Fire 00:19:15 - Remy Ma Exposed 00:20:49 - Fake Fights & Sneak Attacks 00:22:39 - Was It All a Setup? 00:25:03 - Papoose’s Pain 00:27:20 - Hair, Drama & Betrayal 00:30:32 - Online Clapbacks 00:33:27 - Embarrassed by Love 00:37:26 - Remy Ma vs. Clarissa Shields?! 00:41:49 - Love & Family First 00:43:28 - Jay-Z Accused! 00:46:45 - Jay-Z Fights Back 00:50:34 - Exposing Lies 00:54:48 - Jay-Z’s Legacy at Risk 01:03:47 - False Allegations 01:07:35 - Canceled or Cleared? 01:10:48 - Trump Meets Hip-Hop 01:17:10 - Drake’s Billion-Dollar Moves Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO
And I'm gonna tell y'all how we knew? So you mean, so Howie knew? Is that y'all? That's y'all think that's so thirl?
He put a recording device and Remy's card.
A recording device is crazy action boss, And a recording device is over the top crazy. Do you actually think on shit back and watch seventeen years ago down to dre Do you know what kind of food I.
Think he's looking?
Man, I'm gonna put out recording devices. Man, I got an AD tag in the car, man exucis.
So I'm just I'm gonna say, under under the circumstances that I was in, I was under the I was under everything that basically that already split up already, like living on two separate get the houses and all of that shit like that two separate stages of the houses.
I really ain't take nobody from nobody. I really did, seriously, I was. You know what I'm saying like that, I'll really be like, Yo.
The idea that you've been convinced to let her still live in the household while me and you in the relationship with he was married to for seventeen years shows me you made lack experience as it pertains to relationship etiquette. If you cannot move that woman out of that house, were not ready for a relationship until you can move out of that house with another car. You were married to and been with for seventeen years.
What happened was to be is an through the situation with a mask on, and he got past somehow he got past.
The security guard. Oh and literally he literally sneaked me. He do sneak me, He do sneak me.
And that's where the two cool jaws come into the head. He do sneak But when I never fell, never was in no fetal position.
I never touched the ground ever. When I got back to turn the law to the sand.
Can you see it, pull out all the tricks, you lucky? He and hit you with a ninja star. When he's seen pull out all the tricks for the wife he been with seventeen years, he you lucky, He'll pop out of that mask and boom, hit you with a ninja star.
Because what see You gotta.
Remember what he doing when he coming in and attacking you. He trying to put you in a situation where your dignity won't allow you to be with her, but you gonna continue to accept because you think it's love and you love her.
He read shit like that to me.
I told him, I think the security has something to do with it because it comes with a full blow mask. Your security's not gonna allow in the building. But the only out he allows it go through the four if he lifts his mask up and it says like, yo, this is him.
I keep telling y'all, no, why bro, we ain't playing man new wayans and make you put that pencil on the way in.
Man.
We can rumble right now about my wife. You're gonna rumble me about my wife? Is you on the internet telling me you're gonna rumble me about my wife, A lady I've been with seventeen years.
You're gonna rumble me about her? Bringing this looks so easy. All your other podcast can tease me, no, no.
Marking. This looks so easy.
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But I'm in this discovery mode where people are come across the content without any context, and they'll say things that they think will capture my confidence. And so anytime you think you in the scenario to capture my confidence, you're done to enter the wrong room. Right, because I'm shielded, I'm covered. I try to keep a good defense for a bad offense, and the negativity is a bad offense.
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Some people don't understand what that means in.
This game, and I understand, But there's a niche of people that need that information to understand how effective what I'm doing is.
Right.
There's a niche of people that I speak to when I turn.
Off the road right quick, and I go over here in this lane and I go to talking that podcast talk, that industry talk.
It's a few niche community that can get that.
And then I veer back over in the lane where I'm speaking to everybody. But I'm always trying to leave trails, leave footprints in the sand because where I come from, where I'm gone, where I intend on't going. You see what I'm saying, and so it's important for me to leave something.
Today. We're going to talk about a few different things. Man.
I appreciate y'all for being here. What we've been able to do and what we look forward to doing in twenty twenty five should be great. Hopefully you guys enjoy it. Hopefully I see you at a live show. Hopefully we involve some kind of way. I thank you guys for being here. I want to start to show off today speaking about about love. You know, love is a very strange place, man. It's like Disneyland that can turn into a nightmare. It's unfortunate because it's crucial. Love is Love is so crucial for a human experience. As a young you don't know the difference between love and sex, but as you get older, you appreciate the boundaries that love put on you, the expectations that come along with love, the indicators that love gives you, the directions that love gives you, right, and so at that point you clarify that there is a difference between fornication and being in love. Today, we're gonna talk about Remy Mind pet Pools. Over the last year or so, there's been communications in the industry and even amongst the casual fan that remy Mind had been in a scenario where she wanted to move away from pet Pools. And of course I'm using these people's name as an example, but I'm a broaden the conversation as soon as I lay the context, because I like to stay away from these people individually and deal with the context of the subject.
There's been chatter.
Online that remy Mind has been involved with a battle rap guy. A lot of people say he's an off brand pat poos. You know, today, I'm gonna get into some of these things, right, We're gonna have fun with the conversation. Of course, we're gonna try to report the scenario. But also there's a layer of this that is serious. Right when we deal with someone that has been in a relationship for seventeen years, and Pat Poosse had rolled in a scenario when remy Mar had been locked up and did six seven years, and he went there every single week, according to remy Ma. And we'll get into why I believe that's so important, but before we do any of that, I kind of want to start at the end.
Though.
If you're watching this, you probably already know what remy Mar has posted. Let me see if I got it on. So if you're looking on the screen right now, you can see where remy Mar had posted that she came into her house. Pat poos was on the phone with one of the greatest female boxes of all time, Claricious Shields, and they had been in a relationship for some time and dealing with each other, according to remy Ma.
Allegedly, remy May had went in.
The phone and seen some communication between the two individuals and things went from there. I want you guys to keep in mind that it has already been alleged that remy Ma has been in another relationship. And so as you see, this is a barrage of tweets and Instagram posts that have come from remy mind, which she has she has went in the phone of Pat Poos and screenshot at his communications with one of the greatest female boxes of all time, and then she continues to post, Hey, missus Shills, I'm a one boyfriend woman the same way I was a one husband woman. Now I ain't even gonna read the rest, miss Shills. I'm a one boyfriend woman the same way I was a one husband woman.
And I'm a good woman at that.
Hence who I pos won't just go on And he's never gonna buy you anything because he thinks he's the prize.
He's a taker, not a giver. Plus I'm the one with the bag. Lol. Please stop playing with me because I'm not the enemy you want. I'm not even mad.
Actually I'm very happy, and that's why your boyfriend is mad. Oh and I know you said you feel stupid. You look stupid too. Pat poofs then tweets I will never get anyone arrested. Once again, you align it can be easily verified you're the one that played with the police. Line about history that unfolded in front the world is pathetic. Falsifying text message that you claim are from a decade ago just to create a false narrative and justify cheating. It's narcissistic behavior. Remy Ma pet Poos fell asleep on the phone with Clarissa Shields. Again, this is how this fight between Pat Poofs and remy Ma, who a still married. I want this to be let the record reflect still married took place. He fell asleep on the phone with her, laying in my house and refuses to leave. I want you guys to keep all of this in context. As Clarisha Shield's response, this cannot be serious. You have two boyfriends. How can a woman with two boyfriends be mad that he has a girlfriend. All right, this is what's going on between the two unfortunate I think context is important. We gotta remember that rem and Mand is still married to Pat Pools. I think that's one of the more important elements in this. And there's a seventeen year history, and so let's make sure we keep things in the historical context when we talk about these two people. Now insert easy to Block Captain, which is a battle rapper. Now, what I do want to say about easy to Block Captain is that, man, I'm gonna be honest. When Breakfast Club and these other platforms talk about easier to Block Captain.
Man, they go.
Get one of the most horriblest pictures. Man, I'm talking about Man. I know rem and Man be sitting back Man, Remy, Man, if that's gonna be it? Man, you got the yo hit Charlemagne one of them. Hey, Man, use a better picture when you talk about him.
Now.
I'm all in with him now. Now, y'all gonna use better pictures when you to man, go fix him up? Now, Remy, you all in now. Shit, it's seventeen years on the line. Shit, if it's who you're gonna right. But I'm just joking. But so when we talk about Pat Pooles finding out about the relationship, I want to skip to the end again. We're gonna start at the end and kind of talk about it all as we moved through. Easy to Block Captain responded to all of this that's going on online because Pat Pools had let the world know that, Yo, the guy you were cheating with, that you spent Christmas with, I knocked him out when I seen him, I knocked him out. He was in a fetal position. That was the last time I saw him. Easy the Block Captain comes out to defend his honor and in battle rap fashion, he goes and responds with what he believes to be bass.
Let's take a look at some of it.
No, already, I know he up there trying to play victim and all of that shit. But they knew it knew two years ago. I ain't gonna lie if me don't, don't let it up. They knew, they knew, And I'm gonna tell y'all how how we knew? So you mean, so, how we knew? Is that y'all? That's y'all think that's so thorough? He put a record in device and Remy's car, so THEO how he knew is he was bugging her car acusations, false atuation. And I'm gonna tell y'all how we knew? So you mean, so how we knew? Is that?
Y'all?
That's y'all think that's so thorough? He put a record in device and Remy's car.
A recording device is crazy.
Actuations, false auation, and a recording device is over the top crazy.
But I ain't gonna lie.
He got seventeen years, He got seventeen years. Tired of that, pull out all the stops trying to figure out if seventeen years going down to drain do you actually think on shit back and watch seventeen years ago.
Down to Drake. Do you know what kind of fool I think he looking?
Man gonna pull out recording devices, he gonna sneak in, he gonna try to figure out what's going on.
Man, I just went and seeing this girl every two weeks for six years straight.
Man, I got seventeen years tired into this dude.
Man, I got an air tag in the car.
Mantuation false a youation.
They don't put the young the trick bag see rimming them, they older folks, man, and put the young the trick bag man, you know. And and I ain't disrespecting him, you know what I'm saying. This is his relationship, But that's the old I'm trying to give him a little advice. You probably ain't the one she gonna, you know what I mean, be with forever though, But you right now, the old shine though, you probably ain't gonna be with all fever.
You probably thinking like that. But it's too mess.
It's too much going on, Like you know what I'm saying, Like they got they We'll get into a little bit of that in a minute.
Pay attention.
So the how he knew is he was bugging her car, So like that's how new They're a weird off from you know what I'm saying like that, when keep it a dollar a head? You know what I'm saying like that, he bugged the car and you couldn't really hear me on the other side, but you can hear her talking to me. So that's how he knew. And it's not cap I got all the crowd. So so when he says cab, I'm sure I'm just kicking a dollar head.
You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying like that. So I'm just I'm gonna say, under under the circumstances that.
I was in, I was under the I was under everything that basically that already split up already like living on two separate you see the houses and all of that ship like that, two separate stages in the houses with each other doing them doing them. So like that's how I got so technically, So when I tell you I will he ain't take nobody from nobody. I really be did Seriously, I really don't you know what I'm saying like that, I really be like, yo, I really ain't take nobody I'm saying like that.
Can I be honest right here for a second, and I mean no disrespect to the young I'm hoping to give him some game. You know what I'm saying as I'm putting it down. But check this out. If you if you have to deal with a wo woman of that caliber in that scenario, you can't date that woman if you can't move her out of that house. But you young, so you don't really know the vibration, right, Can't no woman tell you that she been married to some teen years and they staying on two different sides of the house. Number one, As the young boy, I understand you accept it, but I understand pet pooss man, he done lost faith in this shit man, So you're gonna accept it.
Can't even move you out the crib.
This can't even right, man, Listen, And I don't like this kind of scenario. But if the scenario presents itself and you end up in that you got the she if she ready to break loose from then and you accepting her, you gotta take her from that household. The idea that you've been convinced to let her still live in the household while me and you in the relationship with you was married to for seventeen years shows me you may lack experience as it pertains to relationship etiquette and what and what love truly looks like and feels like in my opinion, right, I'm not saying I'm then know all, be y'all, but if you cannot move that woman out of that house, were not ready for a relationship until you can move out of that house with another cause you were married to and been with for seventeen years. See, I got too much bravado. I've been une told Pat Poole's hey, you can have a house, young shine, Hey, sign over all that shit that's over with. Let him take whatever he got, Let him take it. I got you as matter of fact, go put something in your name, not even my name, right, so get out of that put it because you done took somebody's wife dingger even if she laying in your lap and you said let's do it. The wedding dress still got the cans tied on it. You can this shit come with shit dragging behind it. I'm not sure that a woman who has not left her husband in its entirety is ready to commit to you in a real way. Y'all had to explain that to me. How you gonna be with that dude? Seventeen years? Y'all been married six seven years, and you're gonna convince me. Y'all living on two separate sides of the house. Y'all hate each other, gus like that man, we posed to be balling enough. We finna get you out of that house. Man, take the shit you want out of that house.
Let's go.
But they done convince the young boy that they even try to convince him to jump on Live with Pat Poole's money. This let me know how far Hollywood and this rap shit and entertainment of goal to kind of keep shit here and keep shit look in a certain way. They asked this young get on the Live with pet Pools to speak the pet Pools and act like they cool just for the image sake. Ain't no woman ever bought nothing like that to my doorstep. I'm gonna leave that right there. I don't know how to take that.
Right. The young boy, he in the hell of a situation.
You gotta roll with the punches, right rem Is she the big player, She the big boss ud, So y'all gotta kind of go with what she says, especially the young because first thing she gonna say, my marriage just got seventeen years. I just that's the first thing she gonna pull out the hat.
You done bid out more than you can chew, young.
That's why I didn't understand why he was laughing and joking like it was some kind of game. Taking a knife ain't no game. And really, you finna be with a knife? Who you took his wife? That ain't no joke, homie. They come with a whole bunch of shit. They come with a whole bunch of shit. She know it, She know what it feels like and what it's gonna look like. Really to separate this thing. Now the time to prove it, because it was just funny games. As long as I can convince everybody shut their mouth. Matter of fact, round of applause for rem and Ma. She had chad the mouth for the sake of the image. She told her, Ya to jump on line with my husband and act like, y'all cool man. You know, I'm trying to make sure that bad keep rolling in y'all playing. He done snuck in there and knocked you out. Let's listen to him explain this scenario.
It got there.
So when it got there, I say, Yo, I gotta let a few of my know that this no because it might go Ye say Michael a lot, because we got to in New York. I got a battle hit Man in New York. This ship started before before y'all even knew. It just started before that. It just started before that mean cross the World ship. So the so when when we got to the hit Man battle and all started around there.
When we got to the hit Man battle, Mike already knew that this knew that went to the event and watched me battle bro knowing that that that ship was a dull foot boy like he knew that right then and there he knew that. He wasn't like he wasn't you, I mean like drawn and ship like that. He always he already knew. So you mean like I'm just here to I'm just here to to to basically, you mean, let y'all know what happened of the the fake ass fight ship here and I'm gonna keep it a dollar.
So you mean like gus I did, I did live, but I was I came on all live and I said it ain't shit happened. So in the back of the war. It's easy. It was wyoey. It's Yoshi and her security guard. That's in the back of the room. It was only forty in the back of the room the whole time, right, So what happened was to be is a going through the situation with a mask on, and.
He got past somehow he got past.
The security guard. I don't know how.
No, we're not gonna speculate here. I don't know how he got with a mask on. I don't know how he got past the security guard. But he got past the security guard.
The walls.
It's an l shape.
I'm on the wall, and literally he literally sneaked me. He does sneak me.
He does sneak me, and that's where the two col jaws come into the hand. He does sneak me box or when I never fell, never was in no fetal position.
I never touched the growl ever. And when I got back to turn the round to the he ran and shit like that to me.
I told him, I think the security has something to do with it, because it comes with a full blow mask. Your security is not going to allow in the building. But the only out he allows it to go through the four if he lifts his mask up and it says like, yo, this is him.
You get what I'm saying.
So he gets in there boo, and then he leaves the same way. He can't so to me, I always think that it was a line up.
What you hear what Easy says say?
Yo?
He crep in with a mask on. You know, he let his mask up and say, man, you know Remy know I'm here. I'm supposed to pop out for the battle. He go fire, k just stay out the way. He might have gained somebody, some of anything, but anyway, he pop in there. So he get in there and he hit the other two of them bamboom pop right, he tried to knock fire from him now caughting to pat Pools. He knocks him out, caughting, Easy to Block Captain. He never hit the ground, but he did take a punch. Now, what I find interesting about this number one is, of course there's a fight happening, right, there's a fight happening. Does a girl involved. A dude got a lot of time tied in his family. His family for dude, he said he had a relationship with easy to Block Captain. The next thing, you know, easy hitting Remy I do believe he should have gave a boy pharaoh though. If you're gonna hit him, get a boy phara one. I wouldn't have gave him a pharaoh. But you give him a pharaoh, and if you're gonna hit the man, pat Pooles, that's the right thing to do. Give that dude to pharaoh. I wouldn't have me and my people, we wouldn't have gave him a phara one. I gotta keep it real, but I'm gonna let you know, give him a phara one. If you're gonna hit him like that. You dig what I'm saying, because you know, I think his pride and ego is hurt behind that. But I still find it interested in every think that Rim had enough player rhythm to make him to even ask that dude to go out and say, yo, man, go go out in public and act like that. This altercation never took place. Man, What I'm still helping? What I'm still helping for?
Man?
What are you talking about?
What?
You still asking me to hip him? What are you talking about? You want me to hip your husband? Man?
Y'all folks asked me too much. Y'all, don't want to ask him too much. Gone back home. If I'm Pat Pools, you gotta think really risked his life. Somebody could have seen a mass man just hit a battle rap and gunned him down. And now that dude risked his life to come in there and get do the two piece. You dig what I'm saying. Man, they bore all in the dude still laughing like it's a joke. Yo, I don't think it's a joke. I think crash on out about the girl before they wiel the money. So while you play with an eirly, it's all funny game. A man, I don't seen always left about the woman. Man, right, So you got to really be paying attention.
Now.
If I'm Pat Pools, he probably looking at it like Lord tain't perfection. See a lot of times as women to think that Lord tis perfection. Lord his preservation. I'm just trying to preserve us. I'm gonna do things that's in our best interest. I'm gonna do things that elevate us. That don't mean I'm always get it right. That don't mean you're gonna always get it right. We gotta hold space for people to make mistakes, right. So I don't think that it's foul for him to have been going up there to see women for all that time, and for anyone to even utter anything as it pertains to what he had did outside of that, what I expect the woman to do the same. I'm gonna say no, but i'ma hold space for a woman that does do the same. I'm gonna hold the same space for her. But why would you ask me to get on live and act like something didn't happen? This is one thing about women. They say men have a type, but women have a tradition. They tend to treat all the men the same way, or try to use the same tendencies on the men. If I had to look at this and being unbiased, I'm saying Remy is making the same mistakes you want us to believe she made with Pat Pools.
What is that mistake?
What she's saying that Pet Pools wasn't as good as she made him look. And she's coming in on the front end with this easy to block captain, making him lie and make him look a different way than what's truly boa y'all do with that what you want, I ain't even gott to finish that. You see what I'm saying you don't continue to make the same mistakes because that's not learning, right. But I think Remy at some point gonna have to have a really, really, really deep conversation with herself. This seventeen years you're throwing away for it. Like if I'm Pat Pools, I'm sitting back looking at this thing.
Man, they ow'n man. They put the beard on anybody, man, then put the beard.
Man.
Listen, man, they go to the barber shop. Man, give me naked all the way to the bottom. Then put plenty in hond. I'm talking about nickeked all way to the bottom, plenty hair. I get the murder one. That's penitentiary rulesing, but niked all way to the bottom with plenty of hair at the bottom.
Man.
Listen, man, everybody came away that you got to have a certain head, your ball Some of y'all it be ragging with the ball head, ragly head. You know, little spots and dogs, shit and all kinds. Yo, take care of your ball head. Let's listen to a little more of this.
We get in the car, We get in the car, I go outside.
You know what I'm saying.
Another situation happened which I'm not gonna say, but it could have got dark for people.
Right.
We get in the car, I get a text Musha, let's say, yo, get out the car. She just lounched you. So I'm looking.
I'm literally in the couse. It's like ten minutes after the whole situation. It was like, Yo, I get a text from my phone and say, Yo, get out the car. She just linch you. So I'm looking at the text. I'm mad as shit already. By Tom your mean hos come he come up.
The preople, the people who text me again like Yo, if you're still in the car, Yo, Yo, get out the car.
She just lines you.
I show her the text.
I still have it.
I still have That's what I.
Still have the text. So so so so it's like, so when y'all see me after like the recording, is the fact that I don't know what at the end of the day.
It's like, what this is a ninja? You know what I'm saying like I've never seen and that turnill me a couple of times and now turn around.
This is gone, like what is this?
Like you know what I'm saying like that, Like it's like it's at the end of the day, is mayke it seem like yo. He walked up to me boom boom bang dang not with up he started going outside like yeah, who w elks about something after the situation, right after after after the situation we caused it, say, yo, meet us at any situation, I will rumble with you.
I haven't rumble three four times bro like you.
I'm saying like that. He denies them all the time. We can rumble right now, like you know what I'm saying, like, we can rumble right now at the end of the day. Is I didn't think that it was nothing crazy because technical.
Man, I am me young? Hey, why man?
Then picturing me somewhere and it's a young telling me we can rumble right now about your wife. I keep telling y'all them, why enns bro, we ain't playing man new Wayians and make you put that pistol on the yenn Man. We can rumble right now about my wife. You're gonna rumble me about my wife? Is you on the internet telling me you're gonna rumble me about my wife? A lady I've been with seventeen years. You're gonna rumble me about her? Many yiens man keep telling y'all. Man, easy, yo, you bugging out? Man, you are bugging out with that.
I get it.
You gotta relax, but to be on line tell me we can rumble right now. But I get it because you've been hit, You've been attacked, so he owe you a fair one.
I ain't gonna lie. I truly believe that, but I just think it come off.
Hell, you get awaii in to get online and say, man, I'll rumble you about Gail Man, your woman, been with her twenty years. I'll rumble you about her. It's crazy, you going to a dog wood with an old wife. Boy, you see it, pull out all the tricks, you lucky, he and hit you with a ninja star.
When he's seen pull out all the tricks for a wife he been with seventeen years. He you lucky.
He pop out of that mask and boom, hit you with a ninja star because what see you gotta remember what he doing when he coming in and attacking you. He trying to put you in a situation where your dignity won't allow you to be with her. But you gonna continue to accept it because you think it's love and you love her. But whole time he looking at his wife. Lo it was in all confidence center because he said, oh, you will take that, except this.
I doesn't hit him.
He's still with you, knowing you living in the house with me and you just telling them that we living on two different sides of like we don't never talk like I ain't never crept in there, like it ain't never been two in the morning and it was cold, like we ain't never made a reason to catch a movie at night together, me and a woman I've been around seventeen years. Y'all do it that what you may, but I'm gonna take it off them. But if I'm a dude, that's when I be I'm disappointed in you. It ain't even that you moving on as you moving down, Yo, where's the dignity?
Man?
He letting you stay and you got the shower win here, we gotta see each other. He really think that me and my wife, he got that little respect for my pimpin He think me and my wife still living together.
Ain't ain't nothing going on.
I believe that her reaction shows you that still emotions tied two. It is seventeen years, but I know what it feels like. I like to feel disgusted. I can't unseen the choices you made. It's hard for me to unsee that you went that way with this, that you handled it that way.
I can never unsee that.
It ain't even that I lost you, is I can't unsee the choices and the way I lost you. If I'm a man that's put so much time in the most embarrassing thing for me to feel like is that I overpaid with my lord. To see I overpay with Lord t and that hurt me every single time I get disappointed in people more and more, and I have no faith in human kind. Sometimes I believe that, no matter who it is, something about them gonna deter me from funing with them in a way that I can truly with them.
And part of that is me, and part of that is how I've been treated.
But if I'm a man dealing with a woman in that kind of scenario, the first thing, I'm a hope and praise man. Don't embarrass me like this man, don't tell me seventeen years. Don't tell me I ain't catch this smart as I am, Like you know, I think I'm one of the colons ever walk through Earth. Every time I get in with a woman and something happened. I said, no, don't tell him I miss that. Ain't no way I miss that. I don't miss things. I ain't a misser. I don't miss nothing. But love is blind, and so you will miss and ignore things. You'll try to deal and cope with things to try to make it to the next step.
Let's listen to a little more.
Like you know what I'm saying, like we could rumble right now at the end of the day, is I didn't think that it was nothing crazy because technically she really wasn't cheating on for real, for real, like I wasn't with each other. You know what I'm saying, Like that, there's so much shit more than I can say what I got to say, because I can't wait for to say sauce I really could botherms.
I'm like, they'll call it so.
Every time I say every time, I just be like, yo, tell this that we can meet anywhere. He won't meet, he could bring I could bring up if he got some shit to be like, let's.
Rumble men who could go anywhere?
And lin who could rumble that that offered them out three four fuck in times, bro, it's been out with the nigga even.
My thoughts, this nigga ain't even a big nigga.
And no, no, no, and listen, and I'm gonna tell you how real it is for y'all.
Y'all can act.
Sug because Sug hit me up about a rumble. I'm like, Yo, if you can get this to rumble, I do it.
Adds them.
I done reached out to three four get this from you.
Know what I'm saying, like, Yo, got document all that ship is documented, Rob, you're saying like that because that ship to me, it ain't third. It was just like all right, bro, like yeah, it's just like you act like you really did something. You snuck it and then brand you's a pussy. For real, there was in some real ship like you. What I'm saying like, like.
The rumble is around any given time.
The rumble is around any given time for real.
It's been documented from different to reach out to tell him little, I want.
Rumble these battle rappings.
Not shake that shit that this dude even talk like he's battle rapping. It's documented the way I want to rumble. You can ask sure got try to get him in the room with pep pousse. It's like, Yo, you dig what I'm saying, But he can't shake that batle rap talk. That batterle rap talk, the battle rap shit is embedded in these individuals. I want to move on from what he's saying, right because basically he just doubles down there that a fight could have took place, should have took place, and he's been inviting a fight to Pat Poos, which I think still sounds crazy, but I do have to put in context that Pat Poos has already put his hands on him, so you know, I understand him fitling like that. But the idea that you are online calling me out to fight me about someone that is my wife that ain't even divorce me. These folks ain't even divorced, you dig, I think you got to take that in consideration. You don't want to be the one looking dumb when they fix that easy to block Captain. Always got to remember that is a scenario where them two can fix that and you on the outside looking dun You got what you got, and I expect you to clout chase after that, But any event that they fixed that, you will be on the outside looking in. Because you really have to ask yourself if you're easy to block, Captain. What has Remy really put on the line. I mean, now she's been forced to expose it, either fix it or go all in with this easy guy. And I still think her fixing it is not off the table. She has made no real commitment. You know, she just playing around with the dude, right they and they probably been around each other. She probably even love him, but she ain't went public. She making him play a role. I want to now insert Clarissa Shields because I think this is interesting. Clarissa Shields is the person that Pappoose allegedly was on the phone with the Cordner rem and man on the screenshots that she shared. Rem and Mar and her ended up going back and forth online with rem and Ma is inviting her to some sort of I mean where it ends up. Clarissa is inviting Remy Mar to crash out and fight her. Listen, rem and Ma talks extremely tough, and I truly believe.
Her to be a gangster.
But there is no chance she will get knocked out with Clarissa Shields. There's no chance that she can do anything but be knocked out by Clarissa Shields. And I say that respectfully to rem and Man and her gangsterism. I don't even like looking at women like gangster, so I don't give much credence to now one of them being no gangster, because I don't even appreciate the women gangster, especially the black woman gangster. Loan don't appreciate that. I know it exists and I don't shun it, but I don't appreciate it, you understand. So any event that they even talking about vibe listen, I think they do a disservice to us as a whole. But I have a job to do to report the news. There should not be a fight between Remy and Clarissa Shields because Remy will get hurt. You see the different reactions between Easy and Clarissa. Clarissa bagged up a little bit because she understands that YO. Neither one of these individuals and I'm speaking about pet Poos and Remy have made any real commitment as it pertains to not being together in the future, as it pertains to not bring his family back as a whole. Now, what I do want to say is that Remy then went to try to expose pet poofs and say that he's hit her, He's did a bunch of different things, and it's her fault that she's made him look better than he truly has been. I want to lend some credence to that because I do know. Number one, I want to say, salute the pet pools because I saw him hold it down. You can't fake the results that he gave. I seen him going up there all the time online. He will post things and you seem to be someone that got more business than a lot of people that I know. And in the scenario where someone is doing that, that ought to be appreciated on all to the highest regard and revered in a way that we can see that you appreciate that. But I do want to speak to the fact that I do know black women that will inflate the man's ego and I think that unfortunately, and I hope this doesn't come off wrong, but unfortunately, a lot of women's worth is tied to how their man treats them. And there's even a subsection of women that even how their man treats them isn't enough. It's how other people see that their man treats them. And those are the dangerous ones, because those are the ones that will inflate a man's position in their lives. Those are the ones that will pass the card under the table, knowing that they're working sixty hours a week busting their ass and you're just picking them up in the car. But she's paying for the meal, but you doing it with her car. Those are the ones that get a key to their apartment made for you while you have no what to stay right. These are the ones who will prop you up sometimes and make you look like that you are the king of the castle when you can't even put the throne together. Now again, I think that part of that is because their worth is tied to how people view that their man is treating them. She never got specific to what she was speaking about when she spoke about her inflating his contributions to her life. At this point, it just needs to be a doubleheader, right, we got two million on it, right, rem and Maut versus Clarissa Shields, Papoos versus easy to Block Captain. It's only two fights on the card. It will be for sale two million, right, there's an offer. I'm sure there's plenty offers out there, but they at this point they can just do a doublehead and get some money off of it. I hate that they're going through this, right, you know, prayers to their family. Hopefully they can figure whatever out they need to figure out, you know, for the sake of the child. You know, they got the young boy Easy involved, right, Remy, you know, have him be quiet and sit back for a minute. That's seventeen years involved. You don't want to make a decision for something that you don't even know in seventeen years from now, if you'll even be in the same head space to want to even be in the scenario that you currently are entertaining, I would employ you guys to try to sit at the round table and see if there's any way to save those seventeen years that y'all already contributed to each other, whether you've inflated his contributions in your life or not. I think that you'll be few and far in between to find people who are willing to stay around for seventeen years. And I mean no disrespect to Remy's relationship with Easy to Block Captain. I think that you know, whether or not they love each other is for them and that's their business. Right for me, I have too much bravado to even want a love a woman that still has a husband. Right, You almost can't even be my woman if you've been married before.
Right.
And I say that respectfully to the women who are interested in me who may have been married, But you really can't be mine if you had been married before.
Right.
It's interesting I say that because I don't think that applies to the man, and so that's a double standard that I live with that I'm willing to speak to anyone about. So you guys who have a different understanding than that, we can have that conversation. I sent a salute to Patpoos, Remy Clarissa and Easy to Block Captain. I pray that you guys find your way and put yourself in a scenario to do what it's best for your family.
Biggest up there podcast. Let's move on.
So I want to talk about jay Z's accusations that has been in the public eye for the last couple of weeks. Took all of about five or six days for them to not only address it, but to appear with an interview from an accuser who went by Jane Doe when the lawsuit was filed.
So for people who do.
Not know there's a lawyer by the name of Tony Bunsby who has named Sean Carter jay Z in the lawsuit with Diddy.
So the first thing.
We're gonna do is we're gonna look at a video of the accuser, alleged accuser who has came out with this lawsuit with this lawyer and accused jay Z of these things. Jay Z quickly and promptly responded in a direct Instagram post, and I'll read some of it here. I'm not gonna read the entire response from jay Z to the allegations. Of course, he denied him. He says it's a money grab. He says his lawyer received a blackmail attempt from this strange lawyer.
These are quotes from jay Z.
I have no idea how you come to be such a deplorable human, but I promise you I've seen your time many times over. I'm more than prepared to deal with your type. You claim to be a marine. You have neither honor or dignity. My only heartbreak is for my family. My wife and I would have to sit our children down. This is very heartbreaking, especially if these allegations are not true. But this is an interesting dynamic. We'll get to here in a second, he says, one of whom is the aide where her friends will surely see the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims. And he says, you have made a terrible error in judgment thinking that all celebrities are the same. I'm not from your world. I'm a young man who made it out of the projects of Brooklyn. We don't play these type of games. We have very strict codes in honor. We protect children. You seem to exploit people for personal game. Only your network of conspiracy theories and fake physics will believe it. Idiotic claims you have levied against me. If not for the seriousness surrounding harm to kids, they would be laughable. I look forward to showing you how different I am. And this is jay Z responding to the gross allegations that him and Diddy was amongst a thirteen year old girl and had some sort of sexual relationship with her. Listen, I can't even wrap my mind around it. Like you know, I'm one of the people that you hear behind this mic who will never have these allegations. They cannot be a scenario where you can have any kind of proof that can have me tied in anything like this. It's one of the more strange behaviors of humans that I've yet to understand on any kind of level. And so for me, it's unfortunate to hit these claims levied against j But we are in the climate where Diddy is sitting in jail. I want us to remember that, and this same lawyer is involved with trying to go after Diddy as well. Shortly after the response from jay Z, you start to see the ball rolling because again jay Z and his entourage and lawyers, his handlers, his connections, corporate tized. They don't just make these dry threats. They don't just make these empty promises, in particular when you're dealing with the guy who is the forefront, the flagship of the entire operation. And so you start to see the ball rolling. People start to say that you know, they're reaching out, they're trying to get information, and what they're doing is investigating. Right, you levy a very serious accusation against a man under the guise of a Jane Doe. With that response, the lawyer responds and then he flips the response and says, oh, he's very emotional That's exactly how an attacker would act. That's how someone that's guilty would act. They play this game, as lawyers were. If they don't ask for amount of money, they don't really view it as extortion. And so what you will hear the lawyer references, Yo, all we did was asked to have a conversation with him, and he went off like that, Right man, this is high level game.
Man.
We know how you play. We know that you're trying to ask for some money. Without asking for some money. What the conversation is gonna be about? I ain't never did this. There is no conversation to be had with me about a thirteen year old and some kind of weird night. There's no conversation to be had with me, right. I think the interesting part in this is jay Z has pardoner hisself with Kendrick Lamar, who has levied these kind of claims all year against Drake, right, And so for jay Z to be this serious about these claims, I think he understands what he's doing to Drake. And so it's interesting to see how Universe response to all of is. Now, this alleged accuser came out and this is what she said, on NBC.
Let's look at this.
You should always advocate for yourself and be a voice for yourself. You should never let what somebody else did run or run your life.
A thirty eight year old mother from Alabama who has filed a lawsuit accusing Sean Diddy, Combs, and Jay Z of raping.
Her, and be a voice for yourself. You should never let what somebody else did we're in or run your life.
A thirty eight year old mother from Alabama who has filed a lawsuit accusing Sean Diddycombs, and Jay Z of raping her when she was thirteen years old, is speaking out to NBC News for the first time. She asked us not to reveal her identity. What made you want to come forward and talk today?
Because I think that I've been quiet long enough about what I've been through, and it's been hard enough to be quiet. But it's a chapter of my life that I'd like to close.
An NBC News review of her account found inconsistencies with her allegations. She says that she went to the MTV Video Music Awards in two thousand to catch a glimpse of her favorite celebrities.
You weren't scared to be all low. No.
With having autism is is like feeling like you live your life in a shatter proof, dry rule ball.
The world's on fire. The fire is in.
Its inside the ball with you, but there's no way for you to get out.
In addition to having autism, the woman says she suffered a head injury the night of the two thousands VMA's. She says a friend drove her from Rochester, New York, to Manhattan, a more than five hour drive. Her attorney provided NBC News with the name of the friend, who has since died. The woman says she spoke to Colms's limo driver, who offered her a ride to an after party.
I stumbled upon Diddy's driver, who told me that I was exactly what Diddy was looking for.
What did you think when he said that to you?
I thought it ad meant that I was just pretty.
She went to a white house, she says, where she spoke to musicians Benji Madden and his brother.
I'm talking to Benji Madden about his tattoo, because you know, I have a really is about his tattoo. That's the last supper because I have a religious background, so it was just something to talk about.
In a statement to NBC News, a representative of the Maddens confirmed that they did not attend the two thousand VMAs and that they were on tour in the Midwest at the time. At the after party, she says she had a drink that made her feel woozy. Then she says Combs and Carter took turns raping her while a female celebrity watched.
Jacy comes in and raped me.
Well he's well he at that point, I was fighting, trying to get away from him, and he put his hand.
Over my mouth and told me to stop it. Cut yo, stoping cut.
The shop after So, when I first heard the accusations, of course, like everyone else, one of the first questions I had was, Yo, how did this child get to this venue?
Right?
What does this child live?
What's the proximity from house to whether the actual party took place where these gentlemen in the event, if we listen to what's been alleged, they want me to believe that there's a child walking around a Hollywood party, and no one finds that unreasonable. What's interesting about Jay is when you attack Jay, it kind of gets bigger than hip hop you kind of attack more than hip hop. You kind of get over into Hollywood and even in the corporate America. So it's interesting. I don't care who it is. If you're dealing with children in any kind of way, me and you got an issue. There's no circumstances where I can look over that, right. I don't care what who say, how they said, and what's going on. I don't care how much power, money, or fame you have. And so the idea that an unidentify fact kid can be walking around in Hollywood VMA after party sounds absurd. I'm not saying that it can't happen, but I do want to save in my opinion, if I'm around, those kind of things are just gonna stick out like a sore thumb. The allegation does damnaster jay Z. I want to be clear about that. I need people to understand that media thrives on engagement and nothing generates clicks like controversy. I think it's important that we always keep that in context. So the stories like something like this with jay Z, these allegations aren't there, aren't just reported.
They dealt with without raige.
And it was interesting because jay Z is one of the people that you see media have an adverse reaction to these rumors and allegations. Right, some people kind of try to walk the fence. They treated it much different than they treated Diddy.
Man.
I've seen people come out defending jay Z that did not even defend themselves. I've seen people come out defending jay Z and standing out on the heel for jay Z that didn't even defend themselves. I want to be clear, I don't believe that it was true either, and that's before the young lady came out and said some of the things that you've seen in this video, with some of the inconsistencies in her statements. Now here's what I also find interested. Although she has these inconsistencies, they have not dropped the case. I do understand that there will be some consequences for pulling out now because the damage is already done and you will be held accountable either way. So at this point, that lawyer is all in, because listen, Jay and this legal team is really gonna attack this in a way where you're gonna pay for the damages that you've caused. This gentleman that has lived on this certain constitution in front of the eyes of the public for so long. I don't even know how you quantify the emotional residue for something like this when I have a child, this age, when I'm dealing with so many different dynamics of life and being a leader of a culture in the way that some people look at jay Z. Again, it's interesting because if you are someone with two or three, four or five six hundred million dollars and you're a black dude that got it by way of hip hop, you start to look at it like, man, it's they trying to tell the roof off of hip hop when we deal with the black man as a whole. If we're being honest, a lot of these dudes is freakazoars. A lot of these dudes is hyper sexual, right, And so when you get money and you're able to be hyper sexual and you deal with women that are hyper sexual, man, you have some nights that are unforgettable. And so as you continue to climb the ladder, there's probably a lot of individuals just looking around and saying, man, I hope some of them knights don't come back to hunt me. Some of those things don't come back to hunt me. Some people don't come back and misrepresent some of the things we did four or five, six, seven years ago. I'm so intentional with my conversations that I usually don't land in a scenario where I shouldn't be. I understand that admiration isn't free, right, so I try not to give my attention to things that can suck me in.
Literally.
I also didn't understand why this victim Whinn had done that interview and why now? And why wouldn't the lawyer stop that? Like what is that about?
Right?
There was something interesting about this young lady doing the interview with a sheet tied up, or we're looking at your shadow, like what is this about? You're the person accusing jay Z. The lawsuit just went live, and you pop up with an interview when all of this is in question, you give an interview. And I do have to respect NBC and a young lady, you know, I have to give it up for Cloyd and NBC in this particular scenario, they handled this like they're dealing with one of their favorites. They didn't handle this in a way that they handled a lot of the other people, and I respect that.
Right.
A lot of times we are in the backdrop saying that black men don't get a fair shot no matter what, and you cannot be a favorite, you cannot be treated fairly in things of that nature. And so sometimes we know have those arguments. But again Jay is a token. He's like a unique scenario, and so you can just tell by how even NBC, instead of painting this as the juicy story, they pointed out the inconsistencies, and they did it in a way where they ran the story saying that, Yo, she is inconsistent, the lawyer still proceeds with the lawsuit.
I think that is a very interesting thing.
I think Jay to be cognizant of some of the games just being played, even as he watched Diddy drown. See, this is what's interesting. You spent your whole life getting out of that pool, man, and now they drowning you on your last lap, your last couple of laps. You know this pool like the back of your hand. The people you thought was the lifeguards jump off of the lifeguard post, proceed to try to drown you on your last few laps. And so I believe Jada no notice play. This is a very familiar play for some of these gentlemen. Right, we saw him doing with Michael Jackson. We saw him with the propaganda as it pertains, the prints and some of these other individuals that had leverage and were powerful black artists. I think it's easy to make a black artist look away, especially in the eyes of the casual fan in Middle America, because again, that's not enough storytellers. There's not enough people that's authentic enough to be able to tell our story and articulated in a way where Middle America.
Can digest it.
And so at some point you can identify why things like this, these allegations are being involved with children and being involved with the awe word, all these kind of allegations, you can understand why they are so hurtful.
They are so harmful.
You spent all your life life living on a certain constitution, living a certain waste, being to a certain drum, even if they're meant your life, and at the end of it, y'all gonna come and play and try to take me down with these kind of allegations without any merit. Because we're in a clip culture. You don't even need merit. They can tell your brand down just with voices. I continue to tell people that as the rap game is changing, and content is king. People are listening to us more than they listening to music. People are listening to us digest and dissect the music more than they're listening to the people that's involved with making the music.
Here's the thing.
Music has a special place in American culture, right. There's environments that are catered specifically to music. My next operation is start those environments. That's what you guessed it the learning verse. When you think about a concert, when you think about a juke bar, when you think about a club, when you think about some of these scenarios, well, what everything is centered around music? The next wave things are changing. You live your whole life on a constitution and going a certain way, and on the last lap they come and play with you like this here time at the time. The black man's wealth, even if it's not in question him keeping it, is always questionable. If he never make a mistake as it pertains to business, he still may end up fighting for his life and fighting for his wealth as he gets older.
I believe this is.
A scary scenario when you zoom out and look at it, especially from different cultures. Just think about how Michael Jeffries feel knowing that me and Diddy got the same case and they let me out. Yeah, there's a few fine details that are different, But think about how he feel let his house, thinking like, oh my goodness. That's why I think what Trump is doing sometimes it gets dangerous. And I know them to be smart enough to really understand that some of the stuff they're doing can be viewed as virtue signaling. Some people are having this conversation about Jordan Needley. When I see Trump embrace the guy that choked Jordan Needley, I think it's dangerous in particular because the IQ of some of the people that're seeing that can take that message in a certain way. When the conversation is still hot on the press that there's a divide in certain people, and there's even a conversation that people are thinking that this could be racially motivated, and then for you to celebrate it, I just think this is getting a little dangerous. But then I think about it and I say, listen, Trump doesn't have any lord to anybody on these last four years. I don't believe him to be someone that's interested in the political process after these four years. So I think whatever he does in these four years, he goes out in the blaze of glory. I don't think we see Trump coming back to run for governor, run for vice president, run for any other office. I believe him to go back into the private sector, take all the fame to clout the business, the information that he had as a president, milked at for the rest of his life because he is an older gentleman. He still has life in him, but he's an older gentleman, and so I think the last quarters of his life he lives talking about what he did while in office, being shot, being shot at while on the presidential campaign, Like you gotta think, man, when he get out of office, he got a movie, movie movie. Donald Trump has content for the next thirty five years. But let's get back to Jay. I think an interesting part of what Jay did right is Jay and Kendrick's relationship. When I look at that, I say, Yo, it feels like Jay kind of pours some gasoline on the fire right when Kendrick is kind of weaponized in public perception. And I think it's interesting how now that package comes to Jay Z's front door, but his infrastructure is so strong, like you can just see it, like you can just see how the media handles it with which, again I believe they should handle it that way, cause again I didn't believe that Jade was involved in that, and I still don't even though they're still moving along.
With the case.
But what I've seen in the past tells me that I need to hold space for complex scenarios. I always want to do that. Right, this one I still believe to be a bit far fetched. But I think what they're trying to do is trigger other stories to come out. They're trying to trigger, and he may got one in the hole. I think this lawyer Tony, this lawyer Tony Bunsby, I think he got one in the hole on jay Z. I think this is like when the cartels send the dummy packed through hoping to get caught. So the other one on the other side of it, while they're celebrating catching thirty bricks, we send ninety one bricks right through that same pathway on that same day, Right, So I think that he cannot be going at someone as powerful as jay Z and be vulnerable in this way, with this being just the only case that he really really only has. Again, I believe him to be trying to trigger other responses, so he can kind of do the same technique that they did the Diddy. And that's why jay Z is taking it so personal. I don't think that Jay coming out with that Instagram post was him just being nice about this. He taking his personal. He looking at what they did to did it. He taking this extremely personal. This is how it starts. He know that this is the starting line of them trying to assassinate me. If I'm jay Z, I'm looking at this lawyer like, man, he trying to assassinate me. Man, he trying to take me out. This is the start of it. This is blackmail, this is extortion, but this is also career suicide. They're trying to publicly that's to make my image so that when they lock me up, there's nobody that can fight for me. And then they put these charges on me to make me radioactive. When I'm radioactive, the people cannot support certain crimes that have merit to it. That's why Jay wanted to come out and smush it. But I still think it's interesting why this lady wanted to do this interview right now, why the lawyer didn't advise against her doing the interview. I do want applaud NBC for taking the content because again, as me being someone in content world, I understand the process of coming up with a title or a description. I understand the work that goes into that and how you viewing that right, So for them to lead with she was inconsistent in her approach in her entire interview. I think that is the favoritism that they give Jay, although it's true they could have ran that story in a different way. I'm telling you that, I'm not asking you that you dig what I'm saying. I'm interested in seeing how Jay and is Oh just handle this, right. I believe they should be this Barre man if they're weaponizing these unproven claims, I think they should be this bard right because these leave permanent stains man on people's legacy. Right, these kind of claims, they resonate with the audience so deeply that if it lives for too long, you really can't undo them.
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You know, I send prayers to Jay Beyonce, his family, and I hold space for any victims out there, right, I want to be clear about that. But as it pertains to this game, it's a nasty game when unproven claims can really ruin your career life, and legacy. And this is why I think that Jay should not let Kendrick Lamar go all the way to the super Bowl with that pedophile talk. I believe it's time to get off their pedophile talk as it pertains to someone like Drake, right, they playing the dangerous game. If you're someone in power, you look at this like an assassination attempt when they come at you with these kind of claims. Dog the people with these claims end up dead in jail, or they lose everything they got, they become radioactive. You look at Epstein, you look at any of these people, whether or not they've been convicted or otherwise clear of all charges of otherwise. The process that they go through is a public lynching and stripping of all of the assets. We are on the heels of the Me Too movement. And as much as they say, you know, Drake isn't a part of the culture, right, I get what they say. They can't tell me because I am the culture. None nobody can't tell me that ain't nobody can't tell me. I am the culture. And that's on everything, and that's stamped right. So what happens is, as much as we do want to say Drake isn't the culture. Drake is given more to the culture in certain aspects than a lot of the people that are in position. Let's keep it a buck, you know, the particulars of the business. Someone has to come on the show and let me really understand what those were, because I don't know. And I think that is a good question for people that has a song with Drake. What is the business of that record? Do you know he owns one hundred percent? You know, depending on who we're speaking with, depending on the timeframe, I think there's a conversation to be had about that. But always remember, admiration isn't free. Again, I talk about these things, I'm aiming to reach the people that seek clarity over chaos.
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Certain topics glowing the dog right, It's hard for me to speak about them because again I know that they're radioactive. But again, as I am a part of the coach and a part of the cycle of what feeds the narrative of what we call this beautiful thing of hip hop, I have to touch on certain topics and hopefully the people that's involved understand that, even if they don't have to continue to build a business and it's for the people, the fans. It's for the individuals that's out there that want to know exactly what's going on. And my Lord to lies with the fans as we report the truth, and it don't matter who it's against. And that's a fact I had a homegirl asked me, loom man my She said, my son he played these games with me.
He pulled at my heart strings, you know.
He he'll tell me depressed and things like that. One of my first questions to her was does he ever do that to the father. I'm not sure she understand where I was coming from, right, because it wasn't that I was down playing what he was going through. I was just trying to make sure he wasn't only going through it when he talked to her. Nowadays, you're dealing with children. It's got smart enough to know how to emotionally extort their parents. Nine times out of ten, they play on the mama, and particularly if the mother single and the father is and there, they know that she's over compensating and as holes that they understand it needs to be filled and they don't understand that because they're smart enough to understand the complexity is a parenthood or they have some kind of insight or they are dealing with some sort of intellect that lets them tap into what their mom is going through. What they understand is that certain times when I'm supposed to get in trouble, I don't get in trouble.
Before we get out of here.
Today, I want to talk about an unfortunate circumstance that I found myself in man as I'm getting older and getting further and further in my dreams, right, I sit down and I have to prepare myself for the moments that people don't see me for who I am, only for what I have, what I can offer. It's unfortunate because it'll put people you grew up with on covert operations. People all go undercover on missions. People you knew all your life with preordained destinations to get next to your bank roll and have you either invest, give them things, provide them opportunity that see. What people don't know about opportunity is that it's worth nothing without work. You can maximize your relationship when you can acknowledge the grind. The unfortunate thing about hip hop is people who watch the sleepless nights, the sacrifices they'll watch the moments when you have to choose between your dreams and the comfort of your family and nobody likes you, and til everybody likes you, and even when everybody likes you, nobody helps you. This is the loop that rap coach is in. Even when everybody likes you, nobody helps you. I remember one time when DJ Kelly that went viral and he was saying, Yo, I like what Drake like. I understand the for ness, right, I get it. Drake a big dog in the game. But I didn't respect that because I'm a game related that's handling business with game and I'm trying to always have peak respective. I would had just much rather seen ideas being pumped out in those conversations. I continue to be loud at the top of the mind. Say yo, four years ago, Kanye West was running around telling major companies he had three million emails.
Are y'all not listening?
As I got further and further into this game, I said, Oh, that's what Joe was doing at Patren. It's the emails, the oh you get some info? Oh this directed Oh they don't really get it.
Right. When I seen what Breakfast Club was doing, I said Oh, I get it. I get it.
Oh, that's why you heard me when I first came in and you continue to hear me speak about Yo, this is a media company. It looked like a podcast, and I say it's a media company, but it's really a tech company. If you pay attention to everything that I'm doing. I'm dealing with subscript I'm dealing with director consumer for real, y'all. Just talking, y'all, just talking. I'm really executing the game. There's holes in the game though. That's holes in the game. That's people you need to hire. That's avenues you need to go.
You know how.
They'll tell you in New York and get on the eight train. That's how you get to Like, you could be in New York all you want, but to get to this particular destination, you got to get on the eight train. Ain't nobody gotta take you, Ain't nobody got to assist you. If you can find your way to the eight train, it'll get you to exactly where the mother went. That win it got their honey million. But they're leading in ghost land in New York. Yeah, this industry, they're leading in ghost land. Just wondering, man, where you go from here the eight train. They ain't even telling you get to the eight train. How what's the name they'll get you to the eight train. They dealing with hundreds of millions. They ain't sharing the tax code with one another. They ain't introducing people to their connects on that level where they showing it how to wipe away twenty and thirty million and give it away and help these black folks business and donate two hundred thousand over to this media company because I'm gonna give it to Uncle Sam.
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When you understand business, you understand that you can move certain things around if you're paying attention. I remember a long time ago, I said, they want to shine. I always told people they don't want to struggle. They want to shine, like did it. They don't want a grind like puff. See I remember Puff. But what happens is in this industry they see the reward, so they want the reward. They don't understand that it's war. They don't understand, and as you get older, you don't explain yourself the people that don't understand. I'm one of the unique individuals man. You don't see me with a lot of people because I rather stay broke. I would have stayed broke for I got with some dislawyers. I would have literally stayed broke or stayed in the street. I would have stayed isolated because I'd rather eat by myself. My heartbeat and I be in too deep. You know, I'm a gangster. I got good recover speed. Really, ain't nothing I can't get over. Ain't nothing I can't overcome. But sucker shit hurt my hard, whether they come from an or male or female. If I'm dealing with sucker shit, just hurt my heart. That's why I try to stay out the proximity, because if I ain't around you, you can't put that sucker shit on me. You can't hear me with a sucker punch. The more you read, the more you find out. This solitude is sanctuary. I do well by myself, learn more by myself. It's good to interact with everybody, but I learned more by myself. I digest it better. I remember telling people, man, the rappers go through certain things because of the imagery. They're in a vicious cycle where they got to look like they got it way before they got it. I think it's inconsiderate because if you know anything about money, You know that money comes with expectation and comes with responsibility and different things. And so people without money don't know the difference between the imagery of having money and actually having money that look like he got it in the one that really have it. And so oftentimes you would deal with young gentlemen coming from the inner city that'll find themselves in beef because people who are asking for things don't understand they don't have it. But if they say they don't have it, then everything they've ever said seem to be questionable. For the sake of the image they got to continue they at least act like they got enough money to take care of things that they never took care of. You know, I do what I can for this always ain't enough. It always supposed to been more. It always could have been more. I always should have done more. It make you not want to do nothing. But when God has blessed you, you got to be stronger and fall a victim to your emotions and continue to try to help the people that deserve that extra push. If you got any kind of hard right, I think the industry will make you hardless and make you think that everything you touch. Is you doing a favor forgetting the times when you need a help, when you need a direction, when people open the door for you. I think that it's a nasty part of the game that take you through this men in black phase with somebody where it's almost like they flash you and you forget when you needed help. I don't think being vulnerable makes you less than a man. When I say, yo, somebody have to give me direct and I don't know what I mean. I'm lost in New York. I refuse to give my money to fifteen people before I find out which one is one.
I can't do it like that.
I think that the infrastructure of the industry already is in place. They should already be in position to say, go that way, tell that person that you need your shoes time, and then they'll send you to someone to get you a suit. Get there, go to the right. I just think that there's infrastructure. I don't understand why they just allow people like to run around the industry like Macaulay Culkin. I just don't get it. The interesting thing about having money, too is that you'll deal with people who be ungrateful and really don't know that they're ungrateful. I think there's a misunderstanding with what they deserve and what I give them, and they think that needs to coexist. What I give you and what you deserve don't have to coexist. The key word is what I gave you, not what you've earned and what you've earned and what you deserve. I think that's more close to a conversation that you can have with you and God. But far as what I give you and what you deserve, I don't really think that needs to coexist. If you didn't work for me. I'm talking about people that you do favors for, people that you look out for. You know, one hand wash the other both watched the face we'll get in a scenario. Man, well we'll forget that. I think it's dangerous man isolation in the business this big right, when you don't understand content is keen. Media is now taking over. We better understand that. That's a very very interesting conversation that needs to be had about how content has literally took the place of rap music and a lot of scenarios and a lot of a lot of car rides home to and from work, right, a lot of commutes, and that is a whole fact. But I just wanted to talk about that today.
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