Captain Tazaryach and Loon GO AT IT over IShowSpeed's Africa tour, Dr. Umar Johnson's Pan-African beliefs, Adin Ross and Blueface. Part 2 gets even more controversial. Captain Tazaryach returns for Part 2 of his conversation on It's Up There Podcast, and the disagreements reach an entirely different level. Loon challenges Captain after he argues that IShowSpeed should have focused on underserved Black communities in America rather than touring Africa. Captain goes further, directly criticizing Pan-Africanism and the beliefs associated with Dr. Umar Johnson. Why does Captain reject the idea of Black Americans identifying with Africa? And why does Loon disagree with the way he's presenting that argument? Then the discussion turns to the controversy involving Adin Ross, Blueface and Wack 100. Captain challenges the business model behind influencer boxing and explains why he believes Black entertainers are being exploited. Loon and Captain examine what happened between Blueface and Adin Ross, the questions surrounding money and contracts, and the responsibility artists have when entering these arrangements. But the conversation doesn't stop there. Captain discusses his confrontation with Charleston White's internet persona, his views on Druski and mainstream influence, and the unexpected opportunity Wack 100 gave him to interview Kanye West on Clubhouse. He also recounts what happened when the Clubhouse conversation with Ye suddenly ended, explains why he has tried to reach Kyrie Irving, and discusses the personal consequences of being associated with controversial beliefs. **MORE FROM PART 2** - IShowSpeed's Africa tour and the debate over Black American identity - Captain Tazaryach challenges Pan-Africanism and Dr. Umar Johnson's philosophy - Adin Ross, Blueface, Wack 100 and the influencer-boxing controversy - What Captain really thinks about Charleston White - Druski and the increasing visibility of Hebrew Israelite beliefs - The Kanye West Clubhouse conversation that unexpectedly ended This is a wide-ranging conversation about power, identity, religion, culture, exploitation and what happens when two people see the same world very differently. **WHO MADE THE STRONGER ARGUMENT — LOON OR CAPTAIN TAZARYACH?** Was Captain wrong about IShowSpeed's Africa tour? Do you agree with his criticism of Pan-Africanism? And is the business behind influencer boxing fair to the performers? Tell us what you think below. Watch Part 1 of the Captain Tazaryach interview: [INSERT PART 1 LINK] Subscribe to It's Up There Podcast for more full-length interviews and conversations with Loon. 00:00 Captain Tazaryach Responds to Charleston White 02:45 Charleston White, Wack 100 and Internet Fame 05:30 IShowSpeed's Africa Tour Sparks a Major Debate 08:30 Captain Challenges Pan-Africanism and Dr. Umar 11:30 Loon Questions Captain's Views on African Identity 14:30 Wack 100, Blueface and Adin Ross 17:15 Druski and the Rise of Hebrew Israelite Content 20:00 Captain Calls Out Adin Ross Over Blueface 22:45 Trump, Iran and Claims of Biblical Prophecy 25:30 The Epstein Files and Diddy Comparison 28:15 Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam and Religious Division 31:15 Captain Challenges Christian Beliefs 34:15 Ne-Yo's Three Partners and Polygamy in Church 37:00 Jamal Bryant and Cam Newton Discussion 39:45 Kanye West's Clubhouse Interview With Captain 42:45 Kyrie Irving, Fame and Controversial Beliefs 45:45 Captain Responds to Cult Leader Accusations 48:30 Claims of Government Scrutiny and Security Visits 51:15 Loon Challenges the Israelite Street Approach 54:15 The Jay-Z and Kaepernick Double Standard 57:15 Pooh Shiesty, Gucci Mane and Industry Contracts Exclusive content and early access: https://patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast The religious interpretations, historical assertions and allegations discussed in this episode represent the speakers' views and are not presented as independently established facts. #CaptainTazaryach #IShowSpeed #DrUmarJohnsonJoin Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast