Kate Smailes (Managing Partner, Havas Blvd & Chief Client Officer) takes us on her deeply personal IVF journey, sharing the raw reality of six pregnancies, multiple miscarriages, and finally welcoming twin girls. She reveals how Havas has transformed their HR policies, introducing miscarriage and fertility leave, and the profound impact this had.

Kate candidly discusses the mental load of returning to work with young twins, the challenges of daycare sickness, and her shift to a more empathetic leadership style. She advocates for open workplace conversations, building your "village," and crucial industry support for parents, including benefits like egg freezing. This is one emotional and important episode about what life is like when the journey to parenthood doesn’t fit in a neat box.

The Village 

It Takes A Village is hosted by Lauren Thornborough and Lou Wilson

Senior Producer Tina Matolov

Audio Editor and Sound Design Thom Lion

Recorded at the Mamamia studios