James talks to immigration lawyer Kirsten Zittlau about the end of the asylum system as we knew it, detentions in courthouses, and the case of Primrose from the Darién Gap series. 

Donate to Primrose's legal fees: venmo.com/u/kirsten-zittla

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James talks to immigration lawyer Kirsten Zittlau about the end of the asylum system as we knew it, detentions in courthouses, and the case of Primrose from the Dari&eacute;n Gap series.&nbsp; Donate to Primrose's legal fees: <a href="venmo.com/u/kirsten-zittlau" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="80793bd8-e0ae-4f51-9642-d4d169be557e">venmo.com/u/kirsten-zittla</a>
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose">https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose</a>

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

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What's Happening in Immigration Court

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Mia tells Molly about monopsony and how economists conspired to bury the theories that explain your wages.

Sources:


https://archive.org/details/bnarchives_0333

https://strangematters.coop/frederic-s-lee-profile-part-one/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/29769757?if_data=e30%3D&seq=1

https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2026/04/14/g-s1-117075/the-labor-economics-of-alien-and-its-lessons-for-inequality-on-earth

https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2026/04/21/g-s1-118071/the-hidden-power-keeping-wages-low

Mia tells Molly about monopsony and how economists conspired to bury the theories that explain your wages.
Sources: 
https://archive.org/details/bnarchives_0333
https://strangematters.coop/frederic-s-lee-profile-part-one/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/29769757?if_data=e30%3D&amp;seq=1
https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2026/04/14/g-s1-117075/the-labor-economics-of-alien-and-its-lessons-for-inequality-on-earth
https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2026/04/21/g-s1-118071/the-hidden-power-keeping-wages-low

Monopsony, or How You Get Underpaid

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James is joined by Molly to discuss how the Bureau of Land Management is quietly changing its approach to public land management and what it means for approximately 900 bison in Central Montana.

Sources:
https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/810541893_202412_990_2025073023621659.pdf 

https://gov.mt.gov/_docs/governor/AmericanPrairieProposedDecisionJanuary162026.pdf 

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-17537.pdf 

https://www.mtpr.org/montana-news/2026-01-21/blm-cancels-bison-grazing-permits-for-montana-nature-reserve

https://news.mt.gov/Governors-Office/Governor_Gianforte_Appeals_Judges_APR_Bison_Grazing_Decision#:~:text=Following%20the%20judge's%20order%2C%20DNRC,appeal%20may%20be%20found%20here. 

https://t.co/HUAyMUnOVi 

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/local/2015/06/18/business-leaders-provide-green-behind-conservation-effort/28960843/ 

https://www.blm.gov/press-release/blm-revokes-american-prairie-bison-grazing-permit

https://www.citizen.org/wp-content/uploads/estatetaxfinal.pdf 

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/12/2026-09386/rescission-of-conservation-and-landscape-health-rule  

https://www.blm.gov/about/laws-and-regulations/conservation-and-landscape-health-rule 

https://largetribes.org/2026/02/affirmative-action-for-cattle-tribes-challenge-feds-plan-to-revoke-bison-grazing-leases-on-public-land-media-share/

James is joined by Molly to discuss how the Bureau of Land Management is quietly changing its approach to public land management and what it means for approximately 900 bison in Central Montana.
Sources: <a href="https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/810541893_202412_990_2025073023621659.pdf">https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/810541893_202412_990_2025073023621659.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://gov.mt.gov/_docs/governor/AmericanPrairieProposedDecisionJanuary162026.pdf">https://gov.mt.gov/_docs/governor/AmericanPrairieProposedDecisionJanuary162026.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-17537.pdf">https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-17537.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.mtpr.org/montana-news/2026-01-21/blm-cancels-bison-grazing-permits-for-montana-nature-reserve">https://www.mtpr.org/montana-news/2026-01-21/blm-cancels-bison-grazing-permits-for-montana-nature-reserve</a>
<a href="https://news.mt.gov/Governors-Office/Governor_Gianforte_Appeals_Judges_APR_Bison_Grazing_Decision#:~:text=Following%20the%20judge's%20order%2C%20DNRC,appeal%20may%20be%20found%20here">https://news.mt.gov/Governors-Office/Governor_Gianforte_Appeals_Judges_APR_Bison_Grazing_Decision#:~:text=Following%20the%20judge's%20order%2C%20DNRC,appeal%20may%20be%20found%20here</a>.&nbsp;
<a href="https://t.co/HUAyMUnOVi">https://t.co/HUAyMUnOVi</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/local/2015/06/18/business-leaders-provide-green-behind-conservation-effort/28960843/">https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/local/2015/06/18/business-leaders-provide-green-behind-conservation-effort/28960843/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.blm.gov/press-release/blm-revokes-american-prairie-bison-grazing-permit">https://www.blm.gov/press-release/blm-revokes-american-prairie-bison-grazing-permit</a> 
<a href="https://www.citizen.org/wp-content/uploads/estatetaxfinal.pdf">https://www.citizen.org/wp-content/uploads/estatetaxfinal.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/12/2026-09386/rescission-of-conservation-and-landscape-health-rule">https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/12/2026-09386/rescission-of-conservation-and-landscape-health-rule</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.blm.gov/about/laws-and-regulations/conservation-and-landscape-health-rule">https://www.blm.gov/about/laws-and-regulations/conservation-and-landscape-health-rule</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://largetribes.org/2026/02/affirmative-action-for-cattle-tribes-challenge-feds-plan-to-revoke-bison-grazing-leases-on-public-land-media-share/">https://largetribes.org/2026/02/affirmative-action-for-cattle-tribes-challenge-feds-plan-to-revoke-bison-grazing-leases-on-public-land-media-share/</a>

Did Donald Trump Ban Buffalo?

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Garrison talks with James about FBI arrests for illegal voting and Trump’s efforts to seize state voter rolls to investigate election officials and restrict voting. 

Sources:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/multiple-aliens-charged-illegally-voting-federal-elections-and-making-false-statements 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439301/dl?inline

https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439296/dl?inline


https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439291/dl?inline


https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439286/dl?inline


https://www.michigan.gov/ag/-/media/Project/Websites/AG/releases/2026/April/DOJ-Letter-to-Wayne-County.pdf


https://www.brennancenter.org/media/15517/download/ri-hearing-transcript-2026-03-26.pdf?inline=1


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/26/us/politics/minnesota-trump-voter-rolls.html

https://www.ksat.com/news/politics/2026/05/06/justice-department-can-keep-2020-election-ballots-seized-from-georgias-fulton-county-judge-rules/ 

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/tracker-justice-department-requests-voter-information 

Garrison talks with James about FBI arrests for illegal voting and Trump&rsquo;s efforts to seize state voter rolls to investigate election officials and restrict voting.&nbsp;
Sources:
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/multiple-aliens-charged-illegally-voting-federal-elections-and-making-false-statements">https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/multiple-aliens-charged-illegally-voting-federal-elections-and-making-false-statements</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439301/dl?inline">https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439301/dl?inline</a> 
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439296/dl?inline">https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439296/dl?inline </a><a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439291/dl?inline"></a>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439291/dl?inline">https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439291/dl?inline </a><a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439286/dl?inline"></a>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439286/dl?inline">https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/media/1439286/dl?inline</a> <a href="https://www.michigan.gov/ag/-/media/Project/Websites/AG/releases/2026/April/DOJ-Letter-to-Wayne-County.pdf"></a>
<a href="https://www.michigan.gov/ag/-/media/Project/Websites/AG/releases/2026/April/DOJ-Letter-to-Wayne-County.pdf">https://www.michigan.gov/ag/-/media/Project/Websites/AG/releases/2026/April/DOJ-Letter-to-Wayne-County.pdf</a> <a href="https://www.brennancenter.org/media/15517/download/ri-hearing-transcript-2026-03-26.pdf?inline=1"></a>
<a href="https://www.brennancenter.org/media/15517/download/ri-hearing-transcript-2026-03-26.pdf?inline=1">https://www.brennancenter.org/media/15517/download/ri-hearing-transcript-2026-03-26.pdf?inline=1 </a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/26/us/politics/minnesota-trump-voter-rolls.html"></a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/26/us/politics/minnesota-trump-voter-rolls.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/26/us/politics/minnesota-trump-voter-rolls.html</a>
<a href="https://www.ksat.com/news/politics/2026/05/06/justice-department-can-keep-2020-election-ballots-seized-from-georgias-fulton-county-judge-rules/">https://www.ksat.com/news/politics/2026/05/06/justice-department-can-keep-2020-election-ballots-seized-from-georgias-fulton-county-judge-rules/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/tracker-justice-department-requests-voter-information">https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/tracker-justice-department-requests-voter-information</a>&nbsp;

How Trump is Using Election Fraud Claims to Restrict Voting

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