James talks to immigration lawyer Kirsten Zittlau about the end of the asylum system as we knew it, detentions in courthouses, and the case of Primrose from the Darién Gap series. 

Donate to Primrose's legal fees: venmo.com/u/kirsten-zittla

https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose

James talks to immigration lawyer Kirsten Zittlau about the end of the asylum system as we knew it, detentions in courthouses, and the case of Primrose from the Dari&eacute;n Gap series.&nbsp; Donate to Primrose's legal fees: <a href="venmo.com/u/kirsten-zittlau" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="80793bd8-e0ae-4f51-9642-d4d169be557e">venmo.com/u/kirsten-zittla</a>
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It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

What's Happening in Immigration Court

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The gang discuss the rescue of an US airman in Iran, ceasefire negotiations, a FEMA official who say he teleported to a Waffle House, and elections in Georgia and Wisconsin.

Cool Zone is nominated for 3 Webby Awards! Submit your votes by April 16th or we'll hunt down your family.  

Behind the Bastards - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation 

It Could Happen Here - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics 

Migrating to America - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary  

Sources:

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/08/trump-threatens-50-percent-tariffs-on-iran-arms-supplies-his-legal-path-is-murky-00863519

https://www.wisn.com/article/author-of-banned-book-calls-out-menomonee-falls-district/45840156

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-announces-50-tariffs-nations-supplying-iran-with-weapons-2026-04-08/

https://aomeara.com/section-338-and-the-ghost-of-smoot-hawley/

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF13006

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/08/trump-threatens-tariffs-countries-supplying-weapons-iran-ceasefire.html

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF11346

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/elections/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-polls.html

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-scores-f-accurate-pollster-11797710

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5819659-trump-approval-rating-democrats/

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5810850-trump-approval-hits-new-low/

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/08/nx-s1-5770114/democrats-wisconsin-georgia-election-shift-overperformance-trump

https://x.com/Kalshi/status/2041503849991516661?s=20


https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/polls/tx-primary


https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/impd-shots-fired-into-indianapolis-city-county-councilors-home/  

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041938354858582151?s=20

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/world/middleeast/shelly-kittleson-journalist-iraq.html

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=456810#text=Dignidad 

https://truthsocial.com/@greggphillips/posts/116329963429212640


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/us/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house-teleportation.html  

https://x.com/ElizLanders/status/2041878299454955640/photo/1

https://x.com/jonkarl/status/2041839012097229086?s=20 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-news-conference-iran/ 

https://www.cbsnews.com/projects/2026/us-military-rescue-iran/ 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/trump-says-us-armed-iranian-dissidents-via-kurds-kurdish-groups-deny-claim

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041422908166127898?s=20

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041429864335446102?s=20

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041073575273156670?s=20

https://theaviationist.com/2026/04/05/u-s-rescues-downed-f-15e-wso-deep-inside-iran/

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-threatens-jail-time-over-f-15-story-leak-260769349590

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116351998782539414


https://abcnews.com/US/fbi-scene-ice-involved-shooting-patterson-california/story?id=131812411


https://x.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/2041886308964913229


https://x.com/OversightDems/status/2041900181977718843

https://www.nysenate.gov/senators/lee-m-zeldin/about


https://www.cityandstateny.com/personality/2026/04/5-things-know-about-lee-zeldin-he-tops-trumps-list-ag/412647/


https://nynow.wmht.org/blogs/politics/why-rep-zeldin-now-running-for-governor-says-he-voted-against-the-2020-election-results/

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/02/us/politics/pam-bondi-attorney-general-trump.html

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/07/politics/todd-blanche-nobody-knows-why-bondi-was-fired

https://x.com/RepNancyMace/status/2041906771074138402

The gang discuss the rescue of an US airman in Iran, ceasefire negotiations, a FEMA official who say he teleported to a Waffle House, and elections in Georgia and Wisconsin.
Cool Zone is nominated for 3 Webby Awards! Submit your votes by April 16th or we'll hunt down your family.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Behind the Bastards - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation</a>&nbsp;
It Could Happen Here - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics</a>&nbsp;
Migrating to America - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary</a> &nbsp;
Sources:
<a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/08/trump-threatens-50-percent-tariffs-on-iran-arms-supplies-his-legal-path-is-murky-00863519">https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/08/trump-threatens-50-percent-tariffs-on-iran-arms-supplies-his-legal-path-is-murky-00863519</a>
<a href="https://www.wisn.com/article/author-of-banned-book-calls-out-menomonee-falls-district/45840156">https://www.wisn.com/article/author-of-banned-book-calls-out-menomonee-falls-district/45840156</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-announces-50-tariffs-nations-supplying-iran-with-weapons-2026-04-08/">https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-announces-50-tariffs-nations-supplying-iran-with-weapons-2026-04-08/</a>
<a href="https://aomeara.com/section-338-and-the-ghost-of-smoot-hawley/">https://aomeara.com/section-338-and-the-ghost-of-smoot-hawley/</a>
<a href="https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF13006">https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF13006</a>
<a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/08/trump-threatens-tariffs-countries-supplying-weapons-iran-ceasefire.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/08/trump-threatens-tariffs-countries-supplying-weapons-iran-ceasefire.html</a>
<a href="https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF11346">https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF11346</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/elections/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-polls.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/elections/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-polls.html</a>
<a href="https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-scores-f-accurate-pollster-11797710">https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-scores-f-accurate-pollster-11797710</a>
<a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5819659-trump-approval-rating-democrats/">https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5819659-trump-approval-rating-democrats/</a>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5810850-trump-approval-hits-new-low/">https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5810850-trump-approval-hits-new-low/</a>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/04/08/nx-s1-5770114/democrats-wisconsin-georgia-election-shift-overperformance-trump">https://www.npr.org/2026/04/08/nx-s1-5770114/democrats-wisconsin-georgia-election-shift-overperformance-trump</a>
<a href="https://x.com/Kalshi/status/2041503849991516661?s=20">https://x.com/Kalshi/status/2041503849991516661?s=20</a> <a href="https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/polls/tx-primary"></a>
<a href="https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/polls/tx-primary">https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/polls/tx-primary</a> <a href="https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/impd-shots-fired-into-indianapolis-city-county-councilors-home/"></a>
<a href="https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/impd-shots-fired-into-indianapolis-city-county-councilors-home/">https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/impd-shots-fired-into-indianapolis-city-county-councilors-home/</a> &nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041938354858582151?s=20">https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041938354858582151?s=20</a> 
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/world/middleeast/shelly-kittleson-journalist-iraq.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/world/middleeast/shelly-kittleson-journalist-iraq.html</a> 
<a href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=456810#text=Dignidad">https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=456810#text=Dignidad</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://truthsocial.com/@greggphillips/posts/116329963429212640">https://truthsocial.com/@greggphillips/posts/116329963429212640 </a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/us/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house-teleportation.html"></a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/us/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house-teleportation.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/us/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house-teleportation.html</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/ElizLanders/status/2041878299454955640/photo/1">https://x.com/ElizLanders/status/2041878299454955640/photo/1</a>
<a href="https://x.com/jonkarl/status/2041839012097229086?s=20">https://x.com/jonkarl/status/2041839012097229086?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-news-conference-iran/">https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-news-conference-iran/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/projects/2026/us-military-rescue-iran/">https://www.cbsnews.com/projects/2026/us-military-rescue-iran/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/trump-says-us-armed-iranian-dissidents-via-kurds-kurdish-groups-deny-claim">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/trump-says-us-armed-iranian-dissidents-via-kurds-kurdish-groups-deny-claim</a>
<a href="https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041422908166127898?s=20">https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041422908166127898?s=20</a>
<a href="https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041429864335446102?s=20">https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041429864335446102?s=20</a>
<a href="https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041073575273156670?s=20">https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2041073575273156670?s=20</a>
<a href="https://theaviationist.com/2026/04/05/u-s-rescues-downed-f-15e-wso-deep-inside-iran/">https://theaviationist.com/2026/04/05/u-s-rescues-downed-f-15e-wso-deep-inside-iran/</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-threatens-jail-time-over-f-15-story-leak-260769349590">https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-threatens-jail-time-over-f-15-story-leak-260769349590</a>
<a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116351998782539414">https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116351998782539414</a> <a href="https://abcnews.com/US/fbi-scene-ice-involved-shooting-patterson-california/story?id=131812411"></a>
<a href="https://abcnews.com/US/fbi-scene-ice-involved-shooting-patterson-california/story?id=131812411">https://abcnews.com/US/fbi-scene-ice-involved-shooting-patterson-california/story?id=131812411</a> <a href="https://x.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/2041886308964913229"></a>
<a href="https://x.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/2041886308964913229">https://x.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/2041886308964913229</a> <a href="https://x.com/OversightDems/status/2041900181977718843"></a>
<a href="https://x.com/OversightDems/status/2041900181977718843">https://x.com/OversightDems/status/2041900181977718843</a>
<a href="https://www.nysenate.gov/senators/lee-m-zeldin/about">https://www.nysenate.gov/senators/lee-m-zeldin/about</a> <a href="https://www.cityandstateny.com/personality/2026/04/5-things-know-about-lee-zeldin-he-tops-trumps-list-ag/412647/"></a>
<a href="https://www.cityandstateny.com/personality/2026/04/5-things-know-about-lee-zeldin-he-tops-trumps-list-ag/412647/">https://www.cityandstateny.com/personality/2026/04/5-things-know-about-lee-zeldin-he-tops-trumps-list-ag/412647/ </a>
<a href="https://nynow.wmht.org/blogs/politics/why-rep-zeldin-now-running-for-governor-says-he-voted-against-the-2020-election-results/">https://nynow.wmht.org/blogs/politics/why-rep-zeldin-now-running-for-governor-says-he-voted-against-the-2020-election-results/</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/02/us/politics/pam-bondi-attorney-general-trump.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/02/us/politics/pam-bondi-attorney-general-trump.html</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/07/politics/todd-blanche-nobody-knows-why-bondi-was-fired">https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/07/politics/todd-blanche-nobody-knows-why-bondi-was-fired</a> 
<a href="https://x.com/RepNancyMace/status/2041906771074138402">https://x.com/RepNancyMace/status/2041906771074138402</a>

Executive Disorder: FEMA Teleportation, Pam Bondi Fired, Iran Ceasefire?

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Andrew talks to James about the USA’s military incursion into Nigeria and the reality around claims of Christian genocide in the country. 

Cool Zone is nominated for 3 Webby Awards! Submit your votes by April 16th or we'll hunt down your family.  

Behind the Bastards - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation 

It Could Happen Here - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics 

Migrating to America - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary   

Andrew talks to James about the USA&rsquo;s military incursion into Nigeria and the reality around claims of Christian genocide in the country.&nbsp;
Cool Zone is nominated for 3 Webby Awards! Submit your votes by April 16th or we'll hunt down your family.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Behind the Bastards - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation</a>&nbsp;
It Could Happen Here - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics</a>&nbsp;
Migrating to America - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;

Nigeria with Andrew

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Dana El Kurd speaks to Molly Crabapple, an award winning writer and artist. Her most recent book is Here Where We Live is Our Country: The Story of the Jewish Bund, will be out on April 7th. Dana and Molly discuss what the Jewish Bund teaches us about the current political moment.

Sources:

Here Where We Live is Our Country - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646320/here-where-we-live-is-our-country-by-molly-crabapple/

We Need New Jewish Institutions by Arielle Angel -  https://jewishcurrents.org/we-need-new-jewish-institutions

Jewish Federations of North America polling - https://www.inss.org.il/social_media/jfna-survey-finds-just-37-of-jewish-americans-identify-as-zionists/

Dana El Kurd speaks to Molly Crabapple, an award winning writer and artist. Her most recent book is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646320/here-where-we-live-is-our-country-by-molly-crabapple/">Here Where We Live is Our Country: The Story of the Jewish Bund,</a> will be out on April 7th. Dana and Molly discuss what the Jewish Bund teaches us about the current political moment.
Sources:
Here Where We Live is Our Country - <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646320/here-where-we-live-is-our-country-by-molly-crabapple/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646320/here-where-we-live-is-our-country-by-molly-crabapple/</a>
We Need New Jewish Institutions by Arielle Angel -&nbsp; <a href="https://jewishcurrents.org/we-need-new-jewish-institutions">https://jewishcurrents.org/we-need-new-jewish-institutions</a>
Jewish Federations of North America polling - <a href="https://www.inss.org.il/social_media/jfna-survey-finds-just-37-of-jewish-americans-identify-as-zionists/">https://www.inss.org.il/social_media/jfna-survey-finds-just-37-of-jewish-americans-identify-as-zionists/</a>

The Jewish Bund and Political Imagination

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/b21591be-832d-4a00-ad9c-b426001e9e07/transcript

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