Robert, Mia, and Garrison discuss the third arc of Andor Season 2, covering the Ghorman Massacre. Terrorist cells are uniting under the boot of the Empire, a riot pits undercover agents vs outside agitators, and we see the consequences of bending the truth.

Robert, Mia, and Garrison discuss the third arc of Andor Season 2, covering the Ghorman Massacre. Terrorist cells are uniting under the boot of the Empire, a riot pits undercover agents vs outside agitators, and we see the consequences of bending the truth.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

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The Gang Reviews Andor Season 2, Ep. 7-9

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For Peter, the father of the deceased child and a member of a Mennonite community in West Texas, the death of his child was God’s will. Many in the Mennonite communities of Texas and across the United States do not vaccinate their children, and their anti-vaccination stance is in line with their general religiously informed practice of eschewing modernity and its technological advances. But it is not merely the few sectarian Mennonite communities that still exist in the United States that have taken a stance against vaccination. Mainstream evangelical and charismatic congregations that embrace much of the modern world have also embraced anti-vaccination beliefs. This episode explores the relationship between conservative Christianity, anti-vaccination beliefs, and contemporary right-wing politics.

Sources:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/texas-measles-outbreak-death-family/681985/

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/ 

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2013/09/measles-outbreak-megachurch-kenneth-copeland-vaccines/ 

https://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/217746942/texas-megachurch-at-center-of-measles-outbreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUGuJkVgXNA 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kenneth-copeland-blow-coronavirus-pray-sermon-trump-televangelist-a9448561.html 

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2025/03/04/west-texans-mennonites-at-center-of-measles-outbreak-choose-medical-freedom-over-vaccine-mandates/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/12/measles-vaccinations-texas-pastor-revels-in-schools-state-low-rates/81975293007/

For Peter, the father of the deceased child and a member of a Mennonite community in West Texas, the death of his child was God&rsquo;s will. Many in the Mennonite communities of Texas and across the United States do not vaccinate their children, and their anti-vaccination stance is in line with their general religiously informed practice of eschewing modernity and its technological advances. But it is not merely the few sectarian Mennonite communities that still exist in the United States that have taken a stance against vaccination. Mainstream evangelical and charismatic congregations that embrace much of the modern world have also embraced anti-vaccination beliefs. This episode explores the relationship between conservative Christianity, anti-vaccination beliefs, and contemporary right-wing politics.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/texas-measles-outbreak-death-family/681985/">https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/texas-measles-outbreak-death-family/681985/</a>
<a href="https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/">https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/2013/09/measles-outbreak-megachurch-kenneth-copeland-vaccines/">https://www.christianitytoday.com/2013/09/measles-outbreak-megachurch-kenneth-copeland-vaccines/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/217746942/texas-megachurch-at-center-of-measles-outbreak">https://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/217746942/texas-megachurch-at-center-of-measles-outbreak</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUGuJkVgXNA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUGuJkVgXNA</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kenneth-copeland-blow-coronavirus-pray-sermon-trump-televangelist-a9448561.html">https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kenneth-copeland-blow-coronavirus-pray-sermon-trump-televangelist-a9448561.html</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2025/03/04/west-texans-mennonites-at-center-of-measles-outbreak-choose-medical-freedom-over-vaccine-mandates/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2025/03/04/west-texans-mennonites-at-center-of-measles-outbreak-choose-medical-freedom-over-vaccine-mandates/?utm_source=chatgpt.com</a>
<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/12/measles-vaccinations-texas-pastor-revels-in-schools-state-low-rates/81975293007/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/12/measles-vaccinations-texas-pastor-revels-in-schools-state-low-rates/81975293007/</a>

Anti-Vax America: God’s Will

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For many years, the threat of measles, a deadly disease that spreads more rapidly than COVID and regularly took thousands of lives a year, had been effectively eradicated in the United States due to the widespread acceptance of vaccination. The death of a child from measles in West Texas was the first in over a decade and it came as a shock to the American medical establishment that is now grappling with a disturbing reality: the chief public health bureaucrat is a bonafide anti-vaxxer. This episode will explore the genealogy of anti-vaccination beliefs in the United States and how they spread into mainstream politics.

Sources:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1200696/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8802588/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1123944/

https://time.com/7205900/anti-vaccination-movement-history/ 

https://historyofvaccines.org/getting-vaccinated/vaccine-faq/vaccination-exemptions

https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-mandates

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-68106-1_2 

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/ 

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-02/rand-paul-on-vaccines-most-of-them-ought-to-be-voluntary- 

https://time.com/5175704/andrew-wakefield-vaccine-autism/ 

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-evidence-on-vaccines-and-autism 

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-bombastic-19th-century-anti-vaxxer-who-fueled-montreals-smallpox-epidemic/

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/plague-the-red-death-strikes-montreal-feature

https://www.cascadepbs.org/2020/05/seattle-always-had-anti-vaxxers-even-during-smallpox

https://www.cascadepbs.org/mossback/2025/02/history-vaccine-skepticism-1920s-seattle-rfk-jr

For many years, the threat of measles, a deadly disease that spreads more rapidly than COVID and regularly took thousands of lives a year, had been effectively eradicated in the United States due to the widespread acceptance of vaccination. The death of a child from measles in West Texas was the first in over a decade and it came as a shock to the American medical establishment that is now grappling with a disturbing reality: the chief public health bureaucrat is a bonafide anti-vaxxer. This episode will explore the genealogy of anti-vaccination beliefs in the United States and how they spread into mainstream politics.
Sources:
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1200696/">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1200696/</a>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8802588/">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8802588/</a>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1123944/">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1123944/</a>
<a href="https://time.com/7205900/anti-vaccination-movement-history/">https://time.com/7205900/anti-vaccination-movement-history/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://historyofvaccines.org/getting-vaccinated/vaccine-faq/vaccination-exemptions">https://historyofvaccines.org/getting-vaccinated/vaccine-faq/vaccination-exemptions</a>
<a href="https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-mandates">https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-mandates</a>
<a href="https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-68106-1_2">https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-68106-1_2</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/">https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-02/rand-paul-on-vaccines-most-of-them-ought-to-be-voluntary-">https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-02/rand-paul-on-vaccines-most-of-them-ought-to-be-voluntary-</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://time.com/5175704/andrew-wakefield-vaccine-autism/">https://time.com/5175704/andrew-wakefield-vaccine-autism/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-evidence-on-vaccines-and-autism">https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-evidence-on-vaccines-and-autism</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-bombastic-19th-century-anti-vaxxer-who-fueled-montreals-smallpox-epidemic/">https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-bombastic-19th-century-anti-vaxxer-who-fueled-montreals-smallpox-epidemic/</a>
<a href="https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/plague-the-red-death-strikes-montreal-feature">https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/plague-the-red-death-strikes-montreal-feature</a>
<a href="https://www.cascadepbs.org/2020/05/seattle-always-had-anti-vaxxers-even-during-smallpox">https://www.cascadepbs.org/2020/05/seattle-always-had-anti-vaxxers-even-during-smallpox</a>
<a href="https://www.cascadepbs.org/mossback/2025/02/history-vaccine-skepticism-1920s-seattle-rfk-jr">https://www.cascadepbs.org/mossback/2025/02/history-vaccine-skepticism-1920s-seattle-rfk-jr</a>

Anti-Vax America: Anti-Vax Genealogy

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The viral measles outbreak that began in West Texas has taken the lives of two children and one adult, and has reached over eight hundred cases, with thousands potentially exposed to the disease. This episode serves as a deep dive into the outbreak, when it started, how it spread, and will set the stage for the remaining four episodes.

Sources:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/05/20/measles-updates-texas-cases-pass-700-as-illness-reported-in-30-states/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-measles-outbreak-in-west-texas-and-beyond

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2025/03/24/data-these-charts-show-how-measles-vaccination-rates-declined-in-texas-public-schools/ 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/

https://www.verywellhealth.com/measles-outbreak-texas-11682808 

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8828106/

https://www.latimes.com/newsletters/la-me-ln-essential-california-20190507-story.html 

https://slate.com/technology/2025/04/measles-cases-epidemic-worst-case-vaccine.html 

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/

The viral measles outbreak that began in West Texas has taken the lives of two children and one adult, and has reached over eight hundred cases, with thousands potentially exposed to the disease. This episode serves as a deep dive into the outbreak, when it started, how it spread, and will set the stage for the remaining four episodes.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/05/20/measles-updates-texas-cases-pass-700-as-illness-reported-in-30-states/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/05/20/measles-updates-texas-cases-pass-700-as-illness-reported-in-30-states/</a>
<a href="https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-measles-outbreak-in-west-texas-and-beyond">https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-measles-outbreak-in-west-texas-and-beyond</a>
<a href="https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2025/03/24/data-these-charts-show-how-measles-vaccination-rates-declined-in-texas-public-schools/">https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2025/03/24/data-these-charts-show-how-measles-vaccination-rates-declined-in-texas-public-schools/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/">https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/</a>
<a href="https://www.verywellhealth.com/measles-outbreak-texas-11682808">https://www.verywellhealth.com/measles-outbreak-texas-11682808</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html">https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html</a>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8828106/">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8828106/</a>
<a href="https://www.latimes.com/newsletters/la-me-ln-essential-california-20190507-story.html">https://www.latimes.com/newsletters/la-me-ln-essential-california-20190507-story.html</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://slate.com/technology/2025/04/measles-cases-epidemic-worst-case-vaccine.html">https://slate.com/technology/2025/04/measles-cases-epidemic-worst-case-vaccine.html</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/">https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/</a>

Anti-Vax America: Viral Texas

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The Gang Reviews Andor Season 2, Ep. 7-9

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