The conclusion of the saga of the Butterfly Center at the border. For now.

The conclusion of the saga of the Butterfly Center at the border. For now.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

Migrants face life-threatening jungles, rivers, mountains, and deserts on their way to the USA. Reporter James Stout travelled from the Rio Grande Valley of Texas to the mountains of Southern California and the jungles of the Darién Gap to hear from them about the journey, their American dreams, and the people who helped them during their travels. Along the way, he interviews migrants, experts, and is joined by conflict reporter Robert Evans to discuss anti-migrant conspiracy theories. 

Migrants face life-threatening jungles, rivers, mountains, and deserts on their way to the USA. Reporter James Stout travelled from the Rio Grande Valley of Texas to the mountains of Southern California and the jungles of the Dari&eacute;n Gap to hear from them about the journey, their American dreams, and the people who helped them during their travels. Along the way, he interviews migrants, experts, and is joined by conflict reporter Robert Evans to discuss anti-migrant conspiracy theories.&nbsp;

Migrating to America: A Dream Worth Dying For 

How A Butterfly Sanctuary Became The Center of a Border War, Part Three

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Andrew and James discuss what happened in 2025 from climate disasters to Gen Z uprisings to AI.

Sources:

https://wmo.int/news/media-centre/2025-set-be-second-or-third-warmest-year-record-continuing-exceptionally-high-warming-trend

https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4522124/study-warns-brazilian-food-imports-increasingly-vulnerable-climate-change

https://wmo.int/media/news/fao-and-wmo-report-highlights-extreme-heat-risks-agriculture

https://apnews.com/article/monsoon-rains-nepal-floods-climate-change-india-ef8b703ab93bc310e397d896b032ce8f

https://chimpreports.com/un-warns-as-somalia-drought-crisis-deepens-hunger/

https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/cams-tracks-extreme-july-wildfire-activity-both-sides-atlantic

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/31/weather-tracker-hurricane-melissa-caribbean-jamaica-haiti-cuba

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-switch-gen-z-protests-spread-across-globe-2025-10-02

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/scenting-victory-madagascar-youth-give-scant-thought-whats-next-2025-10-14

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/moroccos-youth-police-clash-fifth-night-protests-demanding-education-health-care-2025-10-01

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/madagascar-military-ruler-randrianirina-sworn-president-reuters-witness-2025-10-17/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5w5nyd5xzo

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/young-anti-corruption-protesters-oust-nepal-pm-oli-2025-09-09/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/25/peru-youth-protesters-state-of-emergency-gen-z

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/gen-z-styled-protests-spread-mexico-fueled-by-mayors-murder-2025-11-16/

https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/13/politica/marcha-de-la-generacion-z-estrategia-digital-pagada-no-es-genuina-sheinbaum

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/trade-unions-india-stage-nationwide-protests-new-labor-127887286

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/with-ai-on-the-rise-what-will-be-the-environmental-impacts-of-data-centers-180987379/

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/power-struggle-sudan

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/03/blood-spilled-sudan-el-fasher-space-rsf-uae-darfur

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/drc-un-report-raises-spectre-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-north

https://cdn.sida.se/app/uploads/2020/08/15103021/Yemen-HCA-2025.pdf

https://www.stimson.org/2025/too-little-too-late-china-steps-up-military-aid-to-myanmars-junta/

Andrew and James discuss what happened in 2025 from climate disasters to Gen Z uprisings to AI.
Sources:
<a href="https://wmo.int/news/media-centre/2025-set-be-second-or-third-warmest-year-record-continuing-exceptionally-high-warming-trend">https://wmo.int/news/media-centre/2025-set-be-second-or-third-warmest-year-record-continuing-exceptionally-high-warming-trend</a>
<a href="https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4522124/study-warns-brazilian-food-imports-increasingly-vulnerable-climate-change">https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4522124/study-warns-brazilian-food-imports-increasingly-vulnerable-climate-change</a>
<a href="https://wmo.int/media/news/fao-and-wmo-report-highlights-extreme-heat-risks-agriculture">https://wmo.int/media/news/fao-and-wmo-report-highlights-extreme-heat-risks-agriculture</a>
<a href="https://apnews.com/article/monsoon-rains-nepal-floods-climate-change-india-ef8b703ab93bc310e397d896b032ce8f">https://apnews.com/article/monsoon-rains-nepal-floods-climate-change-india-ef8b703ab93bc310e397d896b032ce8f</a>
<a href="https://chimpreports.com/un-warns-as-somalia-drought-crisis-deepens-hunger/">https://chimpreports.com/un-warns-as-somalia-drought-crisis-deepens-hunger/</a>
<a href="https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/cams-tracks-extreme-july-wildfire-activity-both-sides-atlantic">https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/cams-tracks-extreme-july-wildfire-activity-both-sides-atlantic</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/31/weather-tracker-hurricane-melissa-caribbean-jamaica-haiti-cuba">https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/31/weather-tracker-hurricane-melissa-caribbean-jamaica-haiti-cuba</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-switch-gen-z-protests-spread-across-globe-2025-10-02">https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-switch-gen-z-protests-spread-across-globe-2025-10-02</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/scenting-victory-madagascar-youth-give-scant-thought-whats-next-2025-10-14">https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/scenting-victory-madagascar-youth-give-scant-thought-whats-next-2025-10-14</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/moroccos-youth-police-clash-fifth-night-protests-demanding-education-health-care-2025-10-01">https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/moroccos-youth-police-clash-fifth-night-protests-demanding-education-health-care-2025-10-01</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/madagascar-military-ruler-randrianirina-sworn-president-reuters-witness-2025-10-17/">https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/madagascar-military-ruler-randrianirina-sworn-president-reuters-witness-2025-10-17/</a>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5w5nyd5xzo">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5w5nyd5xzo</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/young-anti-corruption-protesters-oust-nepal-pm-oli-2025-09-09/">https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/young-anti-corruption-protesters-oust-nepal-pm-oli-2025-09-09/</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/25/peru-youth-protesters-state-of-emergency-gen-z">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/25/peru-youth-protesters-state-of-emergency-gen-z</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/gen-z-styled-protests-spread-mexico-fueled-by-mayors-murder-2025-11-16/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/gen-z-styled-protests-spread-mexico-fueled-by-mayors-murder-2025-11-16/</a>
<a href="https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/13/politica/marcha-de-la-generacion-z-estrategia-digital-pagada-no-es-genuina-sheinbaum">https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/13/politica/marcha-de-la-generacion-z-estrategia-digital-pagada-no-es-genuina-sheinbaum</a>
<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/trade-unions-india-stage-nationwide-protests-new-labor-127887286">https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/trade-unions-india-stage-nationwide-protests-new-labor-127887286</a>
<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/with-ai-on-the-rise-what-will-be-the-environmental-impacts-of-data-centers-180987379/">https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/with-ai-on-the-rise-what-will-be-the-environmental-impacts-of-data-centers-180987379/</a>
<a href="https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine">https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine</a>
<a href="https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/power-struggle-sudan">https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/power-struggle-sudan</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/03/blood-spilled-sudan-el-fasher-space-rsf-uae-darfur">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/03/blood-spilled-sudan-el-fasher-space-rsf-uae-darfur</a>
<a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/drc-un-report-raises-spectre-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-north">https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/drc-un-report-raises-spectre-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-north</a>
<a href="https://cdn.sida.se/app/uploads/2020/08/15103021/Yemen-HCA-2025.pdf">https://cdn.sida.se/app/uploads/2020/08/15103021/Yemen-HCA-2025.pdf</a>
<a href="https://www.stimson.org/2025/too-little-too-late-china-steps-up-military-aid-to-myanmars-junta/">https://www.stimson.org/2025/too-little-too-late-china-steps-up-military-aid-to-myanmars-junta/</a>

What Happened in 2025 with Andrew

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James is joined by Gordayen to discuss the protest wave in Iran, massive regime violence, and the possibilities for the future.

Sources:

https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english?igsh=MTZ3Z29qd3h6YzVlMA==

https://www.instagram.com/ali.javanmardi?igsh=ODV2cGZzaXk2Z3dt

https://www.instagram.com/soran.mansournia?igsh=OWFhNDdtMTRtNzl0

https://www.instagram.com/kurdistanipeople?igsh=MTI3Y3kwZ3V0N3Zvag==

James is joined by Gordayen to discuss the protest wave in Iran, massive regime violence, and the possibilities for the future.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english?igsh=MTZ3Z29qd3h6YzVlMA==">https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english?igsh=MTZ3Z29qd3h6YzVlMA==</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ali.javanmardi?igsh=ODV2cGZzaXk2Z3dt">https://www.instagram.com/ali.javanmardi?igsh=ODV2cGZzaXk2Z3dt</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/soran.mansournia?igsh=OWFhNDdtMTRtNzl0">https://www.instagram.com/soran.mansournia?igsh=OWFhNDdtMTRtNzl0</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/kurdistanipeople?igsh=MTI3Y3kwZ3V0N3Zvag==">https://www.instagram.com/kurdistanipeople?igsh=MTI3Y3kwZ3V0N3Zvag==</a>

What’s Happening in Iran?

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From exoskeletons, rolling laptops, and VR therapy, Robert and Garrison discuss the some of the products at CES 2026 that aren't powered by AI and ChatGPT.

From exoskeletons, rolling laptops, and VR therapy, Robert and Garrison discuss the some of the products at CES 2026 that aren't powered by AI and ChatGPT.

Best and Worst (non AI) Products at CES

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How A Butterfly Sanctuary Became The Center of a Border War, Part Three

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