In the first of a four part series, James catches up with Primrose and her daughter Kim, who he met in the Darien Gap. We hear about the journey from Panama to the USA’s southern border, and the challenges migrants face along the way.

Primrose’s Legal Aid Fundraiser: https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/21/world/americas/trump-us-mexico-border.html

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/article299272524.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/woody-guthrie-deportee-song-immigrants-rare-recording-1235383582/

https://southkernsol.org/2024/09/30/marker-unveiled-at-1948-plane-crash-site-that-killed-28-mexican-passengers/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-orders/ 

http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/ 

https://timzhernandez.com/all-they-will-call-you/ 

In the first of a four part series, James catches up with Primrose and her daughter Kim, who he met in the Darien Gap. We hear about the journey from Panama to the USA&rsquo;s southern border, and the challenges migrants face along the way.
Primrose&rsquo;s Legal Aid Fundraiser: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose">https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose</a>
Sources:
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/21/world/americas/trump-us-mexico-border.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/21/world/americas/trump-us-mexico-border.html</a>
<a href="https://www.fresnobee.com/news/article299272524.html">https://www.fresnobee.com/news/article299272524.html</a>
<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/woody-guthrie-deportee-song-immigrants-rare-recording-1235383582/">https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/woody-guthrie-deportee-song-immigrants-rare-recording-1235383582/</a>
<a href="https://southkernsol.org/2024/09/30/marker-unveiled-at-1948-plane-crash-site-that-killed-28-mexican-passengers/">https://southkernsol.org/2024/09/30/marker-unveiled-at-1948-plane-crash-site-that-killed-28-mexican-passengers/</a>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-orders/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-orders/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/">http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://timzhernandez.com/all-they-will-call-you/">https://timzhernandez.com/all-they-will-call-you/</a>&nbsp;

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

Migrants face life-threatening jungles, rivers, mountains, and deserts on their way to the USA. Reporter James Stout travelled from the Rio Grande Valley of Texas to the mountains of Southern California and the jungles of the Darién Gap to hear from them about the journey, their American dreams, and the people who helped them during their travels. Along the way, he interviews migrants, experts, and is joined by conflict reporter Robert Evans to discuss anti-migrant conspiracy theories. 

Migrants face life-threatening jungles, rivers, mountains, and deserts on their way to the USA. Reporter James Stout travelled from the Rio Grande Valley of Texas to the mountains of Southern California and the jungles of the Dari&eacute;n Gap to hear from them about the journey, their American dreams, and the people who helped them during their travels. Along the way, he interviews migrants, experts, and is joined by conflict reporter Robert Evans to discuss anti-migrant conspiracy theories.&nbsp;

Migrating to America: A Dream Worth Dying For 

Darién Gap: One Year Later | Part One: After The Jungle 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/f1485897-b600-416b-a4c6-b3a5017c2454/transcript

The gang discuss election fraud claims in California, a pogrom targeting immigrants in Northern Ireland, DOJ investigations into healthcare for trans youth, new denaturalization cases against 17 people, and Greg Bovino’s potential 2028 presidential run. 

Sources: 

https://www.independent.com/2026/06/04/new-details-emerge-about-leadup-to-largest-fire-in-channel-islands-history/

https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-reports-19th-death-of-2026-georgian


https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.293201/gov.uscourts.mad.293201.106.0.pdf


https://x.com/JacobEngels/status/2062157399255847030?s=20 

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2026CF000289&countyNo=55&index=0&mode=details 

https://www.whois.com/whois/bovino2028.com 

https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2064422223541154065?s=20


https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text 

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/whats-in-the-secure-america-act/


https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/compromised-votes-still-being-counted-right-wing-media-promote-election-misinformation

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116690027934241490


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28199744-dorcasopn060526/ 

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-moves-strip-us-citizenship-17-naturalized-sex-offenders-fraudsters-drug 

https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-26-108886/index.html 

https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2026/06/25-5087-2176040.pdf


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-resolution-end-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-and


https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/


https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche


https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-parents-say-mount-sinai-plans-to-share-trans-childrens-records-with-trump-administration


https://gothamist.com/news/mamdani-admin-weighs-how-to-provide-care-for-nyc-trans-kids-amid-trump-backlash

https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/06/transcript--mayor-mamdani-appears-on-wnyc-s-the-brian-lehrer-sho


https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/metropolitan/services/lgbtq-health-center/  

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/14/us/julio-sosa-celis-ice-minneapolis-shooting.html 

https://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2026/May/castro-arrested

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064457103134343170?s=20 

https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2064393192162660733?s=20 

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064290478091067601?s=20 

https://t.co/lY0s8D3jZy 

https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/2064336646376505687?s=20 

https://x.com/Reuters/status/2064794729477447978?s=20

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/europe/northern-ireland-knife-attack-belfast-intl

https://bsky.app/profile/enddbelfast.bsky.social/post/3mnxbrtzgsk2y

The gang discuss election fraud claims in California, a pogrom targeting immigrants in Northern Ireland, DOJ investigations into healthcare for trans youth, new denaturalization cases against 17 people, and Greg Bovino&rsquo;s potential 2028 presidential run.&nbsp;
Sources:&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.independent.com/2026/06/04/new-details-emerge-about-leadup-to-largest-fire-in-channel-islands-history/">https://www.independent.com/2026/06/04/new-details-emerge-about-leadup-to-largest-fire-in-channel-islands-history/</a>
<a href="https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-reports-19th-death-of-2026-georgian">https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-reports-19th-death-of-2026-georgian </a>
<a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.293201/gov.uscourts.mad.293201.106.0.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.293201/gov.uscourts.mad.293201.106.0.pdf </a>
<a href="https://x.com/JacobEngels/status/2062157399255847030?s=20">https://x.com/JacobEngels/status/2062157399255847030?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2026CF000289&amp;countyNo=55&amp;index=0&amp;mode=details">https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2026CF000289&amp;countyNo=55&amp;index=0&amp;mode=details</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.whois.com/whois/bovino2028.com">https://www.whois.com/whois/bovino2028.com</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2064422223541154065?s=20">https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2064422223541154065?s=20 </a><a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text"></a>
<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text">https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/whats-in-the-secure-america-act/">https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/whats-in-the-secure-america-act/</a> 
<a href="https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/compromised-votes-still-being-counted-right-wing-media-promote-election-misinformation">https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/compromised-votes-still-being-counted-right-wing-media-promote-election-misinformation</a> 
<a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116690027934241490">https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116690027934241490 </a>
<a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28199744-dorcasopn060526/">https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28199744-dorcasopn060526/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-moves-strip-us-citizenship-17-naturalized-sex-offenders-fraudsters-drug">https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-moves-strip-us-citizenship-17-naturalized-sex-offenders-fraudsters-drug</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-26-108886/index.html">https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-26-108886/index.html</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2026/06/25-5087-2176040.pdf">https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2026/06/25-5087-2176040.pdf </a>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-resolution-end-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-and">https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-resolution-end-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-and </a><a href="https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/"></a>
<a href="https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/">https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/ </a><a href="https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche"></a>
<a href="https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche">https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche </a>
<a href="https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-parents-say-mount-sinai-plans-to-share-trans-childrens-records-with-trump-administration">https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-parents-say-mount-sinai-plans-to-share-trans-childrens-records-with-trump-administration </a>
<a href="https://gothamist.com/news/mamdani-admin-weighs-how-to-provide-care-for-nyc-trans-kids-amid-trump-backlash">https://gothamist.com/news/mamdani-admin-weighs-how-to-provide-care-for-nyc-trans-kids-amid-trump-backlash</a> 
<a href="https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/06/transcript--mayor-mamdani-appears-on-wnyc-s-the-brian-lehrer-sho">https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/06/transcript--mayor-mamdani-appears-on-wnyc-s-the-brian-lehrer-sho </a>
<a href="https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/metropolitan/services/lgbtq-health-center/">https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/metropolitan/services/lgbtq-health-center/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/14/us/julio-sosa-celis-ice-minneapolis-shooting.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/14/us/julio-sosa-celis-ice-minneapolis-shooting.html</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2026/May/castro-arrested">https://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2026/May/castro-arrested</a> 
<a href="https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064457103134343170?s=20">https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064457103134343170?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2064393192162660733?s=20">https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2064393192162660733?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064290478091067601?s=20">https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064290478091067601?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://t.co/lY0s8D3jZy">https://t.co/lY0s8D3jZy</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/2064336646376505687?s=20">https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/2064336646376505687?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/Reuters/status/2064794729477447978?s=20">https://x.com/Reuters/status/2064794729477447978?s=20</a> 
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/europe/northern-ireland-knife-attack-belfast-intl">https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/europe/northern-ireland-knife-attack-belfast-intl</a>
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/enddbelfast.bsky.social/post/3mnxbrtzgsk2y">https://bsky.app/profile/enddbelfast.bsky.social/post/3mnxbrtzgsk2y</a>

Executive Disorder: Pogrom in Belfast, Trans Healthcare, Denaturalization Cases 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/f1c6b831-3c40-440a-b039-b4660137775f/transcript

Dana El Kurd speaks to Andrew Leber, assistant professor of political science and Middle East and North Africa politics, with an expertise in Saudi Arabia and the Arab Gulf states. Andrew outlines the different positions of the Gulf states in response to the ongoing war on Iran, the competing visions for the region posed by the UAE and Saudi Arabia, and the role of Israel in their calculations. 

Sources:

Andrew Leber’s profile and articles - https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber 

How Palestine is linked to domestic grievances - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567

Dana El Kurd speaks to Andrew Leber, assistant professor of political science and Middle East and North Africa politics, with an expertise in Saudi Arabia and the Arab Gulf states. Andrew outlines the different positions of the Gulf states in response to the ongoing war on Iran, the competing visions for the region posed by the UAE and Saudi Arabia, and the role of Israel in their calculations.&nbsp;
Sources:
Andrew Leber&rsquo;s profile and articles - <a href="https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="80658420-124a-4674-a724-64be2c2554d7">https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber</a>&nbsp;
How Palestine is linked to domestic grievances - <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="7a1f98a8-1157-44f6-b8c7-38caec3ad6ab">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567</a>

The Arab Gulf States in the Line of Fire

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/cc3a2683-3e70-4bfc-9b8e-b466003362b7/transcript

Andrew talks with Garrison about how the jailing of political prisoners in Spain  inadvertently sparked the Filipino labor movement and helped globalize the anti-imperialist struggle of the late 19th and early 20th century.

Andrew talks with Garrison about how the jailing of political prisoners in Spain&nbsp; inadvertently sparked the Filipino labor movement and helped globalize the anti-imperialist struggle of the late 19th and early 20th century.

The Globalization of Resistance with Andrew

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/91cdc432-74a0-46c2-82a7-b46500425b7b/transcript

Darién Gap: One Year Later | Part One: After The Jungle

Migrating to America: A Dream Worth Dying For

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