In the first of a four part series, James catches up with Primrose and her daughter Kim, who he met in the Darien Gap. We hear about the journey from Panama to the USA’s southern border, and the challenges migrants face along the way.

Primrose’s Legal Aid Fundraiser: https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/21/world/americas/trump-us-mexico-border.html

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/article299272524.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/woody-guthrie-deportee-song-immigrants-rare-recording-1235383582/

https://southkernsol.org/2024/09/30/marker-unveiled-at-1948-plane-crash-site-that-killed-28-mexican-passengers/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-orders/ 

http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/ 

https://timzhernandez.com/all-they-will-call-you/ 

In the first of a four part series, James catches up with Primrose and her daughter Kim, who he met in the Darien Gap. We hear about the journey from Panama to the USA&rsquo;s southern border, and the challenges migrants face along the way.
Primrose&rsquo;s Legal Aid Fundraiser: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose">https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose</a>
Sources:
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/21/world/americas/trump-us-mexico-border.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/21/world/americas/trump-us-mexico-border.html</a>
<a href="https://www.fresnobee.com/news/article299272524.html">https://www.fresnobee.com/news/article299272524.html</a>
<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/woody-guthrie-deportee-song-immigrants-rare-recording-1235383582/">https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/woody-guthrie-deportee-song-immigrants-rare-recording-1235383582/</a>
<a href="https://southkernsol.org/2024/09/30/marker-unveiled-at-1948-plane-crash-site-that-killed-28-mexican-passengers/">https://southkernsol.org/2024/09/30/marker-unveiled-at-1948-plane-crash-site-that-killed-28-mexican-passengers/</a>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-orders/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-orders/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/">http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://timzhernandez.com/all-they-will-call-you/">https://timzhernandez.com/all-they-will-call-you/</a>&nbsp;

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

Migrants face life-threatening jungles, rivers, mountains, and deserts on their way to the USA. Reporter James Stout travelled from the Rio Grande Valley of Texas to the mountains of Southern California and the jungles of the Darién Gap to hear from them about the journey, their American dreams, and the people who helped them during their travels. Along the way, he interviews migrants, experts, and is joined by conflict reporter Robert Evans to discuss anti-migrant conspiracy theories. 

Migrants face life-threatening jungles, rivers, mountains, and deserts on their way to the USA. Reporter James Stout travelled from the Rio Grande Valley of Texas to the mountains of Southern California and the jungles of the Dari&eacute;n Gap to hear from them about the journey, their American dreams, and the people who helped them during their travels. Along the way, he interviews migrants, experts, and is joined by conflict reporter Robert Evans to discuss anti-migrant conspiracy theories.&nbsp;

Migrating to America: A Dream Worth Dying For 

Darién Gap: One Year Later | Part One: After The Jungle 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/f1485897-b600-416b-a4c6-b3a5017c2454/transcript

The gang discuss the killing of Alex Pretti by Border Patrol in Minneapolis, conflicting accounts of the shooting, a DHS bill in the Senate, and updates on Syria and the FED. 

Sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fHjlCV6d7gVSHjiN&t=1222&v=Amhb8PK_an8&feature=youtu.be

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388288892112 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/26/greg-bovino-agents-victims-pretti-minneapolis-shooting/88361659007/ 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.107.0.pdf 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.109.0.pdf 

https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115968824541011312 

https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3mdg7b7k5nc2q 

https://newrepublic.com/article/205723/dem-senator-harsh-new-takedown-trump-hits-home-breaking-point 

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-287 

https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015826728644391063?s=20

https://x.com/MayorFrey/status/2015917704725622985?s=20

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM7ap12vPo

https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2016564180757725221?s=20 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump 

https://x.com/cspan/status/2016557604282011748?s=20 

https://prospect.org/2026/01/26/ice-trump-democrats-funding-department-homeland-security-alex-pretti-minnesota/


https://www.axios.com/2026/01/26/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-government-shutdown

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs

https://www.axios.com/local/boston/2025/04/29/patriots-plane-guantanamo

https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/pats-team-plane-apparently-used-for-ice-deportation-flights

https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/29/new-england-patriots-charter-jet-guantanamo

https://apnews.com/article/ihan-omar-vinegar-attack-minneapolis-385a30eaf6acc40d6ba5c6c45c09304d

The gang discuss the killing of Alex Pretti by Border Patrol in Minneapolis, conflicting accounts of the shooting, a DHS bill in the Senate, and updates on Syria and the FED.&nbsp;
Sources:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fHjlCV6d7gVSHjiN&amp;t=1222&amp;v=Amhb8PK_an8&amp;feature=youtu.be">https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fHjlCV6d7gVSHjiN&amp;t=1222&amp;v=Amhb8PK_an8&amp;feature=youtu.be</a>
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388288892112">https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388288892112</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid">https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/26/greg-bovino-agents-victims-pretti-minneapolis-shooting/88361659007/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/26/greg-bovino-agents-victims-pretti-minneapolis-shooting/88361659007/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.107.0.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.107.0.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.109.0.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.109.0.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426">https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115968824541011312">https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115968824541011312</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3mdg7b7k5nc2q">https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3mdg7b7k5nc2q</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/205723/dem-senator-harsh-new-takedown-trump-hits-home-breaking-point">https://newrepublic.com/article/205723/dem-senator-harsh-new-takedown-trump-hits-home-breaking-point</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-287">https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-287</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015826728644391063?s=20">https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015826728644391063?s=20</a>
<a href="https://x.com/MayorFrey/status/2015917704725622985?s=20">https://x.com/MayorFrey/status/2015917704725622985?s=20</a>
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/">https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM7ap12vPo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM7ap12vPo</a>
<a href="https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2016564180757725221?s=20">https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2016564180757725221?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump">https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/cspan/status/2016557604282011748?s=20">https://x.com/cspan/status/2016557604282011748?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://prospect.org/2026/01/26/ice-trump-democrats-funding-department-homeland-security-alex-pretti-minnesota/">https://prospect.org/2026/01/26/ice-trump-democrats-funding-department-homeland-security-alex-pretti-minnesota/ </a>
<a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/01/26/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-government-shutdown">https://www.axios.com/2026/01/26/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-government-shutdown</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs">https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs</a>
<a href="https://www.axios.com/local/boston/2025/04/29/patriots-plane-guantanamo">https://www.axios.com/local/boston/2025/04/29/patriots-plane-guantanamo</a>
<a href="https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/pats-team-plane-apparently-used-for-ice-deportation-flights">https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/pats-team-plane-apparently-used-for-ice-deportation-flights</a>
<a href="https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/29/new-england-patriots-charter-jet-guantanamo">https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/29/new-england-patriots-charter-jet-guantanamo</a>
<a href="https://apnews.com/article/ihan-omar-vinegar-attack-minneapolis-385a30eaf6acc40d6ba5c6c45c09304d">https://apnews.com/article/ihan-omar-vinegar-attack-minneapolis-385a30eaf6acc40d6ba5c6c45c09304d</a>

Executive Disorder: Alex Pretti Shooting, DHS Funding Bill & Rojava

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/00f3d9fc-0b39-4956-91b1-b3e2000d736b/transcript

Molly interviews Christopher Mathias about his new book, To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right. It's a rollicking tale of infiltrating nazi groups and exposing their private communications to dox them en masse. 

Preorder Chris' book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767 

The article Chris mentioned about Spit & Dan: https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/

Molly interviews Christopher Mathias about his new book, To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right. It's a rollicking tale of infiltrating nazi groups and exposing their private communications to dox them en masse.&nbsp;
Preorder Chris' book:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="d404bd8f-e8a9-4b4d-988e-a823bc57d071">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767</a>&nbsp;
The article Chris mentioned about Spit &amp; Dan:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="08e21234-12ca-4f83-b79a-9d8509414608">https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/</a>

To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/9c5246c7-dd6f-451f-bd89-b3e0018a8bd5/transcript

In the second part of a two part series, Margaret and James reflect on their time in Minnesota, the incredible community response to the immigration raids, and what other communities can learn from the Twin Cities.

Links:

Rent Support for neighbors in Phillips

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need

Rent Support for neighbors in Central

https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families

Rent Support for neighbors in Powderhorn

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis

Supplies for Political Art Making

https://givebutter.com/spno

Protective Gear for Legal Observers

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe

Diapers and Menstrual Supplies 

https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2

Abolish Ice Shirts

https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e

Northstar Front Line Street Medics

https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth

Twin Cities Swoletariat Bail Fund

Venmo: @TCSwoletariat

Cashapp: $TCSwoletariat

In the second part of a two part series, Margaret and James reflect on their time in Minnesota, the incredible community response to the immigration raids, and what other communities can learn from the Twin Cities.
Links:
Rent Support for neighbors in Phillips
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need</a>
Rent Support for neighbors in Central
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families">https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families</a>
Rent Support for neighbors in Powderhorn
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis</a>
Supplies for Political Art Making
<a href="https://givebutter.com/spno">https://givebutter.com/spno</a>
Protective Gear for Legal Observers
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe">https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe</a>
Diapers and Menstrual Supplies&nbsp;
<a href="https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2">https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2</a>
Abolish Ice Shirts
<a href="https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e">https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e</a>
Northstar Front Line Street Medics
<a href="https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth">https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth</a>
Twin Cities Swoletariat Bail Fund
Venmo: @TCSwoletariat
Cashapp: $TCSwoletariat

Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota, Pt. 2

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/7e2d6cf9-bf29-48f9-bfcc-b3df017c179f/transcript

Darién Gap: One Year Later | Part One: After The Jungle

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