Molly Conger sits down with Talia Lavin to talk about her new book, Wild Faith: How the Christian Right is Taking Over America. Pre-order Wild Faith now, available in hardcover, audiobook, and e-book October 15.

Buy Wild Faith: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/talia-lavin/wild-faith/9780306829192/

Talia's Newsletter: https://buttondown.com/theswordandthesandwich

Original Air Date: 9.27.24

Molly Conger sits down with Talia Lavin to talk about her new book, Wild Faith: How the Christian Right is Taking Over America. Pre-order Wild Faith now, available in hardcover, audiobook, and e-book October 15.
Buy Wild Faith: <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/talia-lavin/wild-faith/9780306829192/">https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/talia-lavin/wild-faith/9780306829192/</a>
Talia's Newsletter: <a href="https://buttondown.com/theswordandthesandwich">https://buttondown.com/theswordandthesandwich</a>
Original Air Date: 9.27.24

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

CZM Rewind: Wild Faith: A Conversation with Talia Lavin

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/6324e0c5-c625-410f-9a66-b22e000b5003/transcript

The gang discuss arson in Mississippi, events in Syria, threats to federal reserve independence and attempts to impeach judges.

Sources:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdms/pr/madison-man-arrested-arson-beth-israel-and-goldringwoldenberg-institute-southern


https://apnews.com/article/mississippi-synagogue-arson-jewish-south-0e489adc986bfaddd55662075bdb6443


https://www.mississippifreepress.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Indictment-Stephen-Spencer-Pittman.pdf


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26378204-tilf-complaint-signed-redacted/

https://www.foxla.com/news/2-turtle-island-liberation-front-members-plead-not-guilty-new-years-eve-socal-bombing-plot

https://www.syriahr.com/en/376284/ 

https://www.syriahr.com/en/376282/ 

https://www.syriahr.com/en/376266/ 

https://x.com/deborahlipstadt/status/2010387174651490769?s=20 

https://rote-hilfe.de/meldungen/kontokuendigung-wegen-antifa-banken-vollstrecken-us-politik-deutschland 

https://www.landtag.nrw.de/portal/WWW/dokumentenarchiv/Dokument/MMD17-5076.pdf 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-01-13/socal-protester-permanently-blinded-by-dhs-agent-family-says

https://www.schmitt.senate.gov/media/press-releases/senator-schmitt-calls-for-the-impeachment-senate-trial-of-judge-boasberg-during-judiciary-hearing/ 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.229.1.pdf

https://georgetown.app.box.com/v/AO-CaseAssignments-061825 

https://georgetown.app.box.com/v/AO-NDOs-120125 

https://x.com/StateDept/status/2011478657680757214?s=20 

https://x.com/StateDept/status/2010740549469557010?s=20

https://www.wired.com/story/trump-warned-of-a-tren-de-aragua-invasion-us-intel-told-a-different-story/

https://x.com/DHSgov/status/2009427948541993323

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/01/09/dhs-provides-update-us-border-patrol-portland-who-attempted-arrest-tren-de-aragua

https://newrepublic.com/post/205284/trump-administration-targets-senator-elissa-slotkin-illegal-orders-jeanine-pirro-doj

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/01/12/congress/mark-kelly-pete-hegseth-lawsuit-00722382

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm

https://apnews.com/article/trump-powell-federal-reserve-d87eedf1e35195957f903f9963aeaf99

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2026/html/ecb.pr260113~ec4630b9fa.en.html

The gang discuss arson in Mississippi, events in Syria, threats to federal reserve independence and attempts to impeach judges.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdms/pr/madison-man-arrested-arson-beth-israel-and-goldringwoldenberg-institute-southern">https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdms/pr/madison-man-arrested-arson-beth-israel-and-goldringwoldenberg-institute-southern </a>
<a href="https://apnews.com/article/mississippi-synagogue-arson-jewish-south-0e489adc986bfaddd55662075bdb6443">https://apnews.com/article/mississippi-synagogue-arson-jewish-south-0e489adc986bfaddd55662075bdb6443 </a>
<a href="https://www.mississippifreepress.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Indictment-Stephen-Spencer-Pittman.pdf">https://www.mississippifreepress.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Indictment-Stephen-Spencer-Pittman.pdf </a>
<a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26378204-tilf-complaint-signed-redacted/">https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26378204-tilf-complaint-signed-redacted/</a>
<a href="https://www.foxla.com/news/2-turtle-island-liberation-front-members-plead-not-guilty-new-years-eve-socal-bombing-plot">https://www.foxla.com/news/2-turtle-island-liberation-front-members-plead-not-guilty-new-years-eve-socal-bombing-plot</a>
<a href="https://www.syriahr.com/en/376284/">https://www.syriahr.com/en/376284/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.syriahr.com/en/376282/">https://www.syriahr.com/en/376282/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.syriahr.com/en/376266/">https://www.syriahr.com/en/376266/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/deborahlipstadt/status/2010387174651490769?s=20">https://x.com/deborahlipstadt/status/2010387174651490769?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://rote-hilfe.de/meldungen/kontokuendigung-wegen-antifa-banken-vollstrecken-us-politik-deutschland">https://rote-hilfe.de/meldungen/kontokuendigung-wegen-antifa-banken-vollstrecken-us-politik-deutschland</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.landtag.nrw.de/portal/WWW/dokumentenarchiv/Dokument/MMD17-5076.pdf">https://www.landtag.nrw.de/portal/WWW/dokumentenarchiv/Dokument/MMD17-5076.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-01-13/socal-protester-permanently-blinded-by-dhs-agent-family-says">https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-01-13/socal-protester-permanently-blinded-by-dhs-agent-family-says</a>
<a href="https://www.schmitt.senate.gov/media/press-releases/senator-schmitt-calls-for-the-impeachment-senate-trial-of-judge-boasberg-during-judiciary-hearing/">https://www.schmitt.senate.gov/media/press-releases/senator-schmitt-calls-for-the-impeachment-senate-trial-of-judge-boasberg-during-judiciary-hearing/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.229.1.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.229.1.pdf</a>
<a href="https://georgetown.app.box.com/v/AO-CaseAssignments-061825">https://georgetown.app.box.com/v/AO-CaseAssignments-061825</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://georgetown.app.box.com/v/AO-NDOs-120125">https://georgetown.app.box.com/v/AO-NDOs-120125</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/StateDept/status/2011478657680757214?s=20">https://x.com/StateDept/status/2011478657680757214?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/StateDept/status/2010740549469557010?s=20">https://x.com/StateDept/status/2010740549469557010?s=20</a>
<a href="https://www.wired.com/story/trump-warned-of-a-tren-de-aragua-invasion-us-intel-told-a-different-story/">https://www.wired.com/story/trump-warned-of-a-tren-de-aragua-invasion-us-intel-told-a-different-story/</a>
<a href="https://x.com/DHSgov/status/2009427948541993323">https://x.com/DHSgov/status/2009427948541993323</a>
<a href="https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/01/09/dhs-provides-update-us-border-patrol-portland-who-attempted-arrest-tren-de-aragua">https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/01/09/dhs-provides-update-us-border-patrol-portland-who-attempted-arrest-tren-de-aragua</a>
<a href="https://newrepublic.com/post/205284/trump-administration-targets-senator-elissa-slotkin-illegal-orders-jeanine-pirro-doj">https://newrepublic.com/post/205284/trump-administration-targets-senator-elissa-slotkin-illegal-orders-jeanine-pirro-doj</a>
<a href="https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/01/12/congress/mark-kelly-pete-hegseth-lawsuit-00722382">https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/01/12/congress/mark-kelly-pete-hegseth-lawsuit-00722382</a>
<a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm">https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20260111a.htm</a>
<a href="https://apnews.com/article/trump-powell-federal-reserve-d87eedf1e35195957f903f9963aeaf99">https://apnews.com/article/trump-powell-federal-reserve-d87eedf1e35195957f903f9963aeaf99</a>
<a href="https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2026/html/ecb.pr260113~ec4630b9fa.en.html">https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2026/html/ecb.pr260113~ec4630b9fa.en.html</a>

Executive Disorder: Portland Shooting, the FED, Visa Pause & Turtle Island Liberation Front

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/6c445efc-1571-4792-ae16-b3d400006b5a/transcript

Andrew and James discuss what happened in 2025 from climate disasters to Gen Z uprisings to AI.

Sources:

https://wmo.int/news/media-centre/2025-set-be-second-or-third-warmest-year-record-continuing-exceptionally-high-warming-trend

https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4522124/study-warns-brazilian-food-imports-increasingly-vulnerable-climate-change

https://wmo.int/media/news/fao-and-wmo-report-highlights-extreme-heat-risks-agriculture

https://apnews.com/article/monsoon-rains-nepal-floods-climate-change-india-ef8b703ab93bc310e397d896b032ce8f

https://chimpreports.com/un-warns-as-somalia-drought-crisis-deepens-hunger/

https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/cams-tracks-extreme-july-wildfire-activity-both-sides-atlantic

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/31/weather-tracker-hurricane-melissa-caribbean-jamaica-haiti-cuba

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-switch-gen-z-protests-spread-across-globe-2025-10-02

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/scenting-victory-madagascar-youth-give-scant-thought-whats-next-2025-10-14

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/moroccos-youth-police-clash-fifth-night-protests-demanding-education-health-care-2025-10-01

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/madagascar-military-ruler-randrianirina-sworn-president-reuters-witness-2025-10-17/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5w5nyd5xzo

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/young-anti-corruption-protesters-oust-nepal-pm-oli-2025-09-09/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/25/peru-youth-protesters-state-of-emergency-gen-z

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/gen-z-styled-protests-spread-mexico-fueled-by-mayors-murder-2025-11-16/

https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/13/politica/marcha-de-la-generacion-z-estrategia-digital-pagada-no-es-genuina-sheinbaum

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/trade-unions-india-stage-nationwide-protests-new-labor-127887286

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/with-ai-on-the-rise-what-will-be-the-environmental-impacts-of-data-centers-180987379/

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/power-struggle-sudan

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/03/blood-spilled-sudan-el-fasher-space-rsf-uae-darfur

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/drc-un-report-raises-spectre-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-north

https://cdn.sida.se/app/uploads/2020/08/15103021/Yemen-HCA-2025.pdf

https://www.stimson.org/2025/too-little-too-late-china-steps-up-military-aid-to-myanmars-junta/

Andrew and James discuss what happened in 2025 from climate disasters to Gen Z uprisings to AI.
Sources:
<a href="https://wmo.int/news/media-centre/2025-set-be-second-or-third-warmest-year-record-continuing-exceptionally-high-warming-trend">https://wmo.int/news/media-centre/2025-set-be-second-or-third-warmest-year-record-continuing-exceptionally-high-warming-trend</a>
<a href="https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4522124/study-warns-brazilian-food-imports-increasingly-vulnerable-climate-change">https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4522124/study-warns-brazilian-food-imports-increasingly-vulnerable-climate-change</a>
<a href="https://wmo.int/media/news/fao-and-wmo-report-highlights-extreme-heat-risks-agriculture">https://wmo.int/media/news/fao-and-wmo-report-highlights-extreme-heat-risks-agriculture</a>
<a href="https://apnews.com/article/monsoon-rains-nepal-floods-climate-change-india-ef8b703ab93bc310e397d896b032ce8f">https://apnews.com/article/monsoon-rains-nepal-floods-climate-change-india-ef8b703ab93bc310e397d896b032ce8f</a>
<a href="https://chimpreports.com/un-warns-as-somalia-drought-crisis-deepens-hunger/">https://chimpreports.com/un-warns-as-somalia-drought-crisis-deepens-hunger/</a>
<a href="https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/cams-tracks-extreme-july-wildfire-activity-both-sides-atlantic">https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/cams-tracks-extreme-july-wildfire-activity-both-sides-atlantic</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/31/weather-tracker-hurricane-melissa-caribbean-jamaica-haiti-cuba">https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/31/weather-tracker-hurricane-melissa-caribbean-jamaica-haiti-cuba</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-switch-gen-z-protests-spread-across-globe-2025-10-02">https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-switch-gen-z-protests-spread-across-globe-2025-10-02</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/scenting-victory-madagascar-youth-give-scant-thought-whats-next-2025-10-14">https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/scenting-victory-madagascar-youth-give-scant-thought-whats-next-2025-10-14</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/moroccos-youth-police-clash-fifth-night-protests-demanding-education-health-care-2025-10-01">https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/moroccos-youth-police-clash-fifth-night-protests-demanding-education-health-care-2025-10-01</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/madagascar-military-ruler-randrianirina-sworn-president-reuters-witness-2025-10-17/">https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/madagascar-military-ruler-randrianirina-sworn-president-reuters-witness-2025-10-17/</a>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5w5nyd5xzo">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5w5nyd5xzo</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/young-anti-corruption-protesters-oust-nepal-pm-oli-2025-09-09/">https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/young-anti-corruption-protesters-oust-nepal-pm-oli-2025-09-09/</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/25/peru-youth-protesters-state-of-emergency-gen-z">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/25/peru-youth-protesters-state-of-emergency-gen-z</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/gen-z-styled-protests-spread-mexico-fueled-by-mayors-murder-2025-11-16/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/gen-z-styled-protests-spread-mexico-fueled-by-mayors-murder-2025-11-16/</a>
<a href="https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/13/politica/marcha-de-la-generacion-z-estrategia-digital-pagada-no-es-genuina-sheinbaum">https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/13/politica/marcha-de-la-generacion-z-estrategia-digital-pagada-no-es-genuina-sheinbaum</a>
<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/trade-unions-india-stage-nationwide-protests-new-labor-127887286">https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/trade-unions-india-stage-nationwide-protests-new-labor-127887286</a>
<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/with-ai-on-the-rise-what-will-be-the-environmental-impacts-of-data-centers-180987379/">https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/with-ai-on-the-rise-what-will-be-the-environmental-impacts-of-data-centers-180987379/</a>
<a href="https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine">https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine</a>
<a href="https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/power-struggle-sudan">https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/power-struggle-sudan</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/03/blood-spilled-sudan-el-fasher-space-rsf-uae-darfur">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/03/blood-spilled-sudan-el-fasher-space-rsf-uae-darfur</a>
<a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/drc-un-report-raises-spectre-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-north">https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/drc-un-report-raises-spectre-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-north</a>
<a href="https://cdn.sida.se/app/uploads/2020/08/15103021/Yemen-HCA-2025.pdf">https://cdn.sida.se/app/uploads/2020/08/15103021/Yemen-HCA-2025.pdf</a>
<a href="https://www.stimson.org/2025/too-little-too-late-china-steps-up-military-aid-to-myanmars-junta/">https://www.stimson.org/2025/too-little-too-late-china-steps-up-military-aid-to-myanmars-junta/</a>

What Happened in 2025 with Andrew

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/4d7525ad-25dc-4cb5-aa68-b3d2018b01f0/transcript

James is joined by Gordayen to discuss the protest wave in Iran, massive regime violence, and the possibilities for the future.

Sources:

https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english?igsh=MTZ3Z29qd3h6YzVlMA==

https://www.instagram.com/ali.javanmardi?igsh=ODV2cGZzaXk2Z3dt

https://www.instagram.com/soran.mansournia?igsh=OWFhNDdtMTRtNzl0

https://www.instagram.com/kurdistanipeople?igsh=MTI3Y3kwZ3V0N3Zvag==

James is joined by Gordayen to discuss the protest wave in Iran, massive regime violence, and the possibilities for the future.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english?igsh=MTZ3Z29qd3h6YzVlMA==">https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english?igsh=MTZ3Z29qd3h6YzVlMA==</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ali.javanmardi?igsh=ODV2cGZzaXk2Z3dt">https://www.instagram.com/ali.javanmardi?igsh=ODV2cGZzaXk2Z3dt</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/soran.mansournia?igsh=OWFhNDdtMTRtNzl0">https://www.instagram.com/soran.mansournia?igsh=OWFhNDdtMTRtNzl0</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/kurdistanipeople?igsh=MTI3Y3kwZ3V0N3Zvag==">https://www.instagram.com/kurdistanipeople?igsh=MTI3Y3kwZ3V0N3Zvag==</a>

What’s Happening in Iran?

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/679415d7-8982-43a6-bd02-b3d101449839/transcript

CZM Rewind: Wild Faith: A Conversation with Talia Lavin

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